Will Dr Dre ever produce somebody else top to bottom?

[Low Key]

to answer the topic, no i don't think we'll ever see a big name producer do a whole album top-to-bottom, that hasn't happened consistently for years.

Aside from DJ Paul & Juicy J, who pretty much produce everything inside Hypnotized Minds, I agree. As I recall, the last mainstream album that was solely produced by one person occurred before Pac died, so yeah, it's been a while.

[Nasty Nem]

i think that rich-boy album with polow on the boards is the closest we'll come

and that's because at the moment he has silly pull in the industry

[Lucifuge]

nobudy can fuck it with dr.dre hes studio monster.ya digĻ!AY!

[Nasty Nem]

he's a beast, anything he touches turns to platinum

[XaNdEr]

Dre is not a god, you can say whatever you want, but the fact is Dre don't come up with shit, he lets others do the work kicks back and listen. Then he adds some synth or drum to it, and that is producing? Come on, you can't be serious can you?

Next to that, like some people already said, his recent work sucks dick (no homo) and i'm not impressed in any way. He can come up with much much better stuff if he is as good as you claim him to be.

I just think Dre lost all his good help, like Daz, Warren, Mel-Man, Scott Storch etc. etc. When Dre worked together he could come up with good beats, now that he has to do with Mark Batson and Kawaun Parker (or whatever that dude is called) his material sucks. Now that's the best evidence there is. It shows us that Dre needs the people around him, yet i see his name all over his beats, not the people who help him. 


@ Low Key, that's why i dig DJ Paul & Juicy J, they bring consitency with them on all the Hypnotize Minds records. Like Lil' Wyte for example, listen to his first album Doubt Me Now, and check the productions there, i mean it is all DJ Paul & Juicy J, and everything sounds similar, but still different, you know. That's what i like about a record.

And people, we had The Ownerz from Gang Starr in 2003, don't forget DJ Premier. Basically he produces all the shit for Gang Starr (too bad they are not together anymore) and i loved that album The Ownerz.

[Nasty Nem]

dre = quincy jones

dre has the gift of knowing what it's meant to sound like, he orchestrates

a conductor doesn't play all the instruments

music is more than a pirate copy of reason and a mpc in your moms basement, it's instruments, professional paid keyboard/string players

read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28album%29#Credits and tell me quincy didn't PRODUCE IT

[Darksider]

Nowadays, I'd rather have Dre mixing an album than producing one. Unlike most producers these days, Dre can hear how a song is SUPPOSED to sound rather than how they WANT it to sound.

I haven't been impressed with Dre's beats as of late, but there is no doubt that he has a true ear for music. You can only do so much with any particular sound on a beat, but there are millions of ways you can put everything together, and that is where Dre excels at.

[XaNdEr]

dre = quincy jones Nasty Nem = Tanjibility Dickrider 

dre has the gift of knowing what it's meant to sound like, he orchestrates

a conductor doesn't play all the instruments

music is more than a pirate copy of reason and a mpc in your moms basement, it's instruments, professional paid keyboard/string players

read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28album%29#Credits and tell me quincy didn't PRODUCE IT

[Tanjential]

dre = quincy jones Nasty Nem = Tanjibility Dickrider 

dre has the gift of knowing what it's meant to sound like, he orchestrates

a conductor doesn't play all the instruments

music is more than a pirate copy of reason and a mpc in your moms basement, it's instruments, professional paid keyboard/string players

read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_%28album%29#Credits and tell me quincy didn't PRODUCE IT

actually Nasty Nem disses me pretty consistently, though i heavily agree with his last 2 posts.

Check it man....producing is not doing the music for an album...that's a musician, producing is putting it all together and insuring a good final product. So, you're right...Dre didn't do alot of the music...but that's not the point, he did produce it all and that's all he's saying he did.

same applies for quincy.

-T

[MediumL]

what the hell Xander. If you look at Just Blaze do you think he does all the instruments on his tracks, of course not. Theres a video of him getting people to play different instruments because he isn't some one man band.

Same with Quincy Jones he didnt play every instrument that would be stupid.

Dre tells people what he wants them to play or in some cases they'll be in a studio jamming and Dre has the foresight to turn a little piano melody into a big tune. The Dre tracks now are more mature not hype tracks maybe thats why you dont like them.  Dre used to use samples but instead now he uses professional musicians, it doesnt mean he isnt producing...

[XaNdEr]

Point is i got more respect for the likes of Daz who actually make their shit themselves, but they don't get the recognition they deserve, in 2k7 who knows about Daz Dillinger?


Same with the rest of the "beatmakers" who don't get their shine, it's always people like Dre takin' all the credit away. One of the dudes who did get the recognition by breaking away from Dre was Scott Storch, good to see he's making cash and getting shine off his beats.

[MediumL]

Point is i got more respect for the likes of Daz who actually make their shit themselves, but they don't get the recognition they deserve, in 2k7 who knows about Daz Dillinger?


Same with the rest of the "beatmakers" who don't get their shine, it's always people like Dre takin' all the credit away. One of the dudes who did get the recognition by breaking away from Dre was Scott Storch, good to see he's making cash and getting shine off his beats.

So you were in the studio with Dre and Daz when Doggystyle and Chronic were being made? Cause you seem to believe Daz did all the work...

[XaNdEr]

I'm just saying Daz has been a no-name after his Death Row time, while Dre has been the big name producer ever since Death Row. People never really seem to understand that Daz helped with these "classics" and nobody knows what he has done and what not, it is all one big secret.

I am not saying he or Warren G did ALL the work, i don't know nothing about them in the studio, i'm just saying that they didn't get their share of shine. If Dre allowed to put Daz' name on these albums as co-producer he would be more famous nowadays i think.

That is what i mean, nothing more. There are producers who "oversee" the making of songs and add their little twist to the song and then they get their name on it. But the people who actually do the work never get that recognition. I just used Dre, Daz & Warren as example, since it is a Westcoast forum and this should make sense to you.

[Allpaul]

On every type of music except rap, a producer is expected to gets the sounds & shapes the direction of the session while the artist brings in the initial song idea. It may consist of just a verse and chorus & a chord progression with the producer helping shape it and write additional parts, or a fully realized idea with the producer just adding a few bells & whistles and making sure the shit's coming out straight.

 One thing I hardly ever see anyone talk about on here is the  producers job to bring out the best in an artist. I've heard alot of dope beats from other producers, sometimes very "Dre like" beats where an artist is just spitting boring, uninspired shit. It seems to me that the producer can't  control, or is so happy to have a big shit star in the studio, that they just let them have free reign. You never hear that on a Dre production. That's what it's all about IMO, bringing out the best in an artist..... REAL producing.

Sorry, just had to say it again.........

[StevenQBosell]

Thats why Quik, IMO, is a great producer. How many near classic albums has Quik produced top to bottom for his friends, 5, 6, 7? Quik can easily make a quality album top to bottom. A 16 track Dre produced album doesn't have the same appeal as it did 15 years ago. Dre tracks stick out, you look for them, you expect everyone to be perfect, but 16 perfect tracks, no one in music can pull off.

Totally forgot about Quik, I would love to hear an contemporary artist completly produced by Quik, would kinda like to hear Snoop and QUIK an album together, i think they'd compliment each other perfectly.

In all honesty, I think it's either gonna go 1 of 2 ways;

1) he continues to do the same ol' $300,000 per beat, and if I really like you, I'll give you a hot one"
or
2) Like Tanj says, he catches an epiphany and once again decides to do a whole artist top to bottom, this time our modern era "Chronic 92" phenomenon...

I'm banking on 1, but really hoping for 2