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Iraq never threatened America, Hitler never threatened America, Vietnam never th
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 05, 2007, 07:35:37 PM ---
That all depends on whether the US got the bomb or not when it did. It would have easily taken out Germany and the Middle East in the 40s when only the US had nukes. Don't forget about the USSR as well.
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What depends?
Low Key:
--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on June 05, 2007, 03:18:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chief on June 05, 2007, 01:19:42 AM ---
That would mean though that the Muslims would be ruling the world now too along with Germany
and thank god everything happens for a reason then huh?
i cant believe you think it would be a good thing for hitler to be in charge.
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Let me clarify one major point you might have missed.... I was talking about Kaiser Wilhelm (not HITLER) and World War 1 when I was talking about Germany and the Islamic Ottoman Empire almost winning the war and becoming the 20th century world superpowers. So ofcourse, now my second point would be that the harsh reperations and treatment Germany was forced to endure after World War 1 is what ultimately lead to the rise of Hitler and World War 2.
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Yeah, but it wasn't America who was treating Germany like shit. The USSR had more losses on the battlefield, so they were awarded with more land and power over Germany. They were the ones who tore it up. Just like at the end of WWII as well.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on June 05, 2007, 07:53:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 05, 2007, 07:35:37 PM ---
That all depends on whether the US got the bomb or not when it did. It would have easily taken out Germany and the Middle East in the 40s when only the US had nukes. Don't forget about the USSR as well.
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What depends?
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Whether or not Germany and the Ottoman Empire would run the world. No bomb, no USA world power. Bomb, no Germany world power.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Low Key on June 05, 2007, 08:08:57 PM ---
Yeah, but it wasn't America who was treating Germany like shit. The USSR had more losses on the battlefield, so they were awarded with more land and power over Germany. They were the ones who tore it up. Just like at the end of WWII as well.
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Yeah, I think there is some truth to what you said... and when it comes to the breakup of the Ottoman Empire, Russia definitely played as big a role as anyone. So I would actually attribute the Allied victory over Germany/Ottomans to Russia and Britian more than US, and in the aftermath it's possible Russia could have done more harm to Germany than US, but I haven't researched that aspect much.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 05, 2007, 08:19:27 PM ---
Whether or not Germany and the Ottoman Empire would run the world. No bomb, no USA world power. Bomb, no Germany world power.
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Well......... even if America had a bomb it doesn't mean they would have immediately went and bombed Germany and the Ottoman Empire into destruciton.. also, Germany and Ottoman Empire would have became rich after WW1 from oil wealth so they would have had more capital for research into making and biulding nukes.
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