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Can God commit suicide?
7even:
--- Quote from: sonofisis on June 14, 2007, 12:01:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on June 14, 2007, 04:50:13 AM ---Now, of course God doesn't exist and everything, but hypothetically speaking of course he would be able to destroy himself. A great warrior who can't be fucked with still can slit his damn throat if he wants to. Just because nothing else can destroy him doesn't mean he can't... but I think it is pretty retarded actually, that's like asking if God can make french fries that are so damn hot that not even he himself can eat them. LOL.
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You either did not get the gist of what was being asked, or simply don't have a clear understanding on what the word "omnipotence" means. It wasn't a stupid question that can be easily answered, which is why I was looking for insight.
Actually, I did not know until earlier this morning when I started doing google searches on it, that wikipedia actually has an article covering the Omnipotence paradox..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence_paradox
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Actually, I understood perfectly what was going on and you didn't understand what I said. Actually I have read stuff written by Descartes. Stop making a fool out of yourself.
Edit: Now that I have looked at that link you gave us, here's what I've found:
--- Quote ---The omnipotence paradox has infiltrated popular culture. In an episode of popular US animated series The Simpsons entitled 'Weekend at Burnsie's', Homer asks rhetorically, "Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that he himself could not eat it?".
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Here's a quote taken from my 1st post in this thread:
--- Quote ---[...]that's like asking if God can make french fries that are so damn hot that not even he himself can eat them.
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See the similarity? Good.
Now, whether the question is "stupid" or not can of course be debated. I wasn't trying to aggrieve you, sorry if that happened.
Sparegeez:
I think the question we need to answer before we answer this is "What is god?"
sonofisis:
^^Why should we have to discuss that if I already drew the parameters for this thread? He's an "omnipotent" being..
--- Quote from: The Overfiend on June 13, 2007, 09:46:20 PM ---I don't think we can define God within terms of power. What is power? Power to create and destroy? Black holes can destroy anything, yet they are nothing within the context of the Universe. Nebulae give birth to thousands of star clusters, yet again they are nothing within the context of the infinite immensity of the Universe.
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Again, I'm only concerned with God as an omnipotent being..
--- Quote from: Facez on June 14, 2007, 12:27:03 PM ---i dont think that God can commit suicide; (these are my thoughts)
1st reason is because he is good and why would good want to kill itself,
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^I love this response.. Indeed, God has free will but his will is not to Kill/destroy life energy... Good one..
--- Quote ---2nd because God is the highest authority and death doesnt have any power over him,
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I can make sense of this by applying it to your first response..
--- Quote ---and 3rd because death is a creation, it only exists on earth even when we die (in our flesh) on earth we live forever in the spirit either in heaven or hell. death can't kill god cuz thats like saying can a human (which is a creation) kill god. outside this world there is life because as i stated before God is life (life is something that wasnt created) it existed at the begining. that is why god says that he is the alpha and omega.
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Most beautiful response yet. I didn't sit and think of it in that way. With death being a creation that is equatable to human beings themselves, therefore neither one can affect God as God created them both. I was also thinking myself that it doesn't have to be a paradox because if(big if) God were indeed able to destroy its self, then it should be able to bring its self back into existence(excuse the impersonal language, but of course God doesn't have a gender).. Quality reply..
--- Quote from: 7even ---Actually, I understood perfectly what was going on and you didn't understand what I said. Actually I have read stuff written by Descartes. Stop making a fool out of yourself.
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There is no possible way to infer that I made a fool of myself by alluding to your lack of comprehension. In fact, it seems even more apparent now that you feel a need to save face/pride.
--- Quote ---Edit: Now that I have looked at that link you gave us, here's what I've found:
"The omnipotence paradox has infiltrated popular culture. In an episode of popular US animated series The Simpsons entitled 'Weekend at Burnsie's', Homer asks rhetorically, "Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that he himself could not eat it?"
Here's a quote taken from my 1st post in this thread:
"that's like asking if God can make french fries that are so damn hot that not even he himself can eat them"
See the similarity? Good.
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Your point is mute and this is a Straw Man; you also conveniently quote yourself out of context with the wiki article to give the illusion as if what you say coincides with it, which is sort of pathetic. This is what you actually said and what I directly responded to.
--- Quote ---Now, of course God doesn't exist and everything, but hypothetically speaking of course he would be able to destroy himself. A great warrior who can't be fucked with still can slit his damn throat if he wants to. Just because nothing else can destroy him doesn't mean he can't... but I think it is pretty retarded actually
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You say Of course he wouldn't be able to destroy him self with out giving an adequate answer as to why, and compare him to a mortal warrior. This immediately leads me to question how you're defining omnipotent. Then you call the question retarded even though you were not able to adequately answer this retarded question. smh..
--- Quote ---Now, whether the question is "stupid" or not can of course be debated.
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No it cannot be debated because it is a seemingly clear paradox that only sound minds are able to tackle(this is where you've failed)..
--- Quote ---I wasn't trying to aggrieve you, sorry if that happened.
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??? Don't flatter your self pal, lol..
TraceOneInfinite:
God can't live and die. He can't commit suicide. He is eternal, absolute, and Infnite. But some religions have deviated from this truth, like in Christianity for example, Paul started teaching that Jesus, a human, was actually a God.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on June 14, 2007, 08:24:28 PM ---God can't live and die. He can't commit suicide. He is eternal, absolute, and Infnite. But some religions have deviated from this truth, like in Christianity for example, Paul started teaching that Jesus, a human, was actually a God.
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I have more problems with Paul than you do but even in Matthew it's shown that Jesus was worshipped. Let's not even get into John.
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