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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #135 on: June 21, 2007, 12:57:56 PM »



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Kobe wasn't ALLOWED to have a vintage Kobe series...After his amazing performance in Game 2, he only had 13 attempts in Game 3!!! If the Lakers were running under Kobe, NO WAY that happens..

shaq/or the other lakers for that matter weren't allowed to have a vintage lakers series....larry brown was one step ahead of everyone with his defense.....you can't say kobe wasn't heading the offense when everyone else had 4-5 shots and shaq had like what 10/11 in that same game 3.....you're giving shaq too much negative credit and the pistons not enough positive credit. face it kobe HAD the offense, and coudln't pull throug.

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even if he wasn't averaging 38 points and 16 rebounds.....he would have if the lakers were ABLE to get clear passing lanes to him

LMAO!

how is that funny when he was grabbing over or near 30 points in many of those games. situation determines behavior. notice that kobe's number dipped in the same games shaq's did as well. detroit defense right there. detroit put a dam on the passing lanes inside which eliminated shaq and malone down low, which forced the lakers to take wild out side shots....in particularly kobe. larry brown knew what he was doing, he knew the lakers couldn't win the series with kobe jacking up shots. eliminate shaq from the offense by cutting off all routes leading to him and the pistons gain the leverage.


Dude. Shaq couldn't average 16 rebounds in that series if his life depnded on it...LOL.

dude. dennis rodman couldn't average 16 rebounds in that series if his lfie depended on it....detroit had the golden game plan that year.



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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #136 on: June 21, 2007, 12:58:40 PM »

Yes...Kobe had the offense. ::) That's why he took less attempts than Shaq a game after his remarkable performance to save the Lakers, right? WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, SHAQ HAD CONTROL. You obviously didn't read Phil Jackson's "Last Season"...I don't even have to ask you, because it's self-evident based on the shit you're saying. Shaq was incapable of finding openings and dominating the center. He shot less, yet the offense was running through him. THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING, JAKE.


kobe shot one less shot than shaq....oooo wow, but still let's look at that game no one had the offense in that game, but what happened every other game when kobe shot almost twice as much as shaq, lol we lost big time

shaq had no control i don't know where you draw that from, he didn't touch the ball of even have possestion of the ball as long as kobe in that game. are you saying he did!? how could someone control the offense when they dont' have the ball or even touch it?  lol it's not like he was calling plays, GARY PAYTON was,lol



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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #137 on: June 21, 2007, 01:00:34 PM »

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's why the Lakers only won a game when KOBE had an amazing performance, huh?  


you pretend like kobe did it all himself that game, go back to my articles and it clearly shows that shaq got the lakers a three point play in the fourth and overtime play to make it even POSSIBLE for the kobe 3 a possibility.


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Dude, you already admitted that your love for Shaq goes beyond your love for the Lakers...

when have i ever said that? it's more true for me to say you like kobe more than i like shaq, and it's even more fair for me to say that your love for kobe in relation to the lakers far exudes my admiration for shaq's time in la in realtion to the organization. it'd be one thing if i became a laker fan when shaq joined the club, but i was a laker fan when sam perkins and vlade divac were our big men. that's why i'm still tyring to see a day when the lakers when, i'm not out rooting for the spurs/mavericks/suns/ect.  your argument is invalid here.

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If Kobe left the Lakers, I wouldn't give a SHIT about him. In fact, I would hope he fails wherever he went...That's the difference between me, a real Laker fan, and you, a Shaq fan...People can see this, bro...PeACe

yeah right we'll see, lol we'll see...

the very fact that you're still in kobe's corner after all his shenanigans tells me you'll still be in his corner when he's playing for the knicks or bucks or wherever he goes.

you know what i'll be nice too when that day comes and kobe is no longer on the lakers. because you do know it's possible to have a favorite player from a different team right ,lol? there's nothing sacreligious about it. in the 80's my favorite nba player was magic , then after he retired my favorite player became grand ma ma ... i mean larry johnson.... then shaqc....then one day in 96' my favorite player was on my favorite team....that shit was tight. now my favorite player plays on the heat....wish he still played on my favorite team. when shaq retires my favorite player will probably be carmelo anthony, maybe lamar odom  that's my second and third favorite players as of right now.only one of them is a laker, but so what if he's not after next season i like the way they play, they remind me of how i played.

in football my favorite players don't play on the cowboys or the raiders, even though we got one of the best wr's  and one of the best up and coming qb's and best defenses (combined). my favorite players play in different conferences on other teams  MILES away from oakland and dallas. lol true story

my favorite baseball player never played for the dodgers or angels, infact he use to play for a division rival for the angels and was compared to the biggest villian in recent dodger history (barry bonds)....ken griffy jr. so what , does that make me any less of a dodger.angel fan



NIK quit being so childish


^^If Kobe wasn't on the Lakers, he wouldn't be my favorite player. Unlike you, people don't doubt my Laker fan status...That's all there is to it.


like i said we'll see. we'll see, i got burnt copy of that doggystyle cd that says you'll post less about the lakers and still deep down inside still root for kobe. if you're still rooting for him now, you'll still be rooting for him when he's no longer a laker.


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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #138 on: June 21, 2007, 01:01:51 PM »

Yes...Kobe had the offense. ::) That's why he took less attempts than Shaq a game after his remarkable performance to save the Lakers, right? WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, SHAQ HAD CONTROL. You obviously didn't read Phil Jackson's "Last Season"...I don't even have to ask you, because it's self-evident based on the shit you're saying. Shaq was incapable of finding openings and dominating the center. He shot less, yet the offense was running through him. THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING, JAKE.


kobe shot one less shot than shaq....oooo wow, but still let's look at that game no one had the offense in that game, but what happened every other game when kobe shot almost twice as much as shaq, lol we lost big time

shaq had no control i don't know where you draw that from, he didn't touch the ball of even have possestion of the ball as long as kobe in that game. are you saying he did!? how could someone control the offense when they dont' have the ball or even touch it?  lol it's not like he was calling plays, GARY PAYTON was,lol



^^Shaq was demanding the ball on every single opening (which he had trouble creating). He said he wouldn't defense or rebound if it went down differently...I'm starting to doubt you even watched the series.
 

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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #139 on: June 21, 2007, 01:02:52 PM »



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Kobe wasn't ALLOWED to have a vintage Kobe series...After his amazing performance in Game 2, he only had 13 attempts in Game 3!!! If the Lakers were running under Kobe, NO WAY that happens..

shaq/or the other lakers for that matter weren't allowed to have a vintage lakers series....larry brown was one step ahead of everyone with his defense.....you can't say kobe wasn't heading the offense when everyone else had 4-5 shots and shaq had like what 10/11 in that same game 3.....you're giving shaq too much negative credit and the pistons not enough positive credit. face it kobe HAD the offense, and coudln't pull throug.

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even if he wasn't averaging 38 points and 16 rebounds.....he would have if the lakers were ABLE to get clear passing lanes to him

LMAO!

how is that funny when he was grabbing over or near 30 points in many of those games. situation determines behavior. notice that kobe's number dipped in the same games shaq's did as well. detroit defense right there. detroit put a dam on the passing lanes inside which eliminated shaq and malone down low, which forced the lakers to take wild out side shots....in particularly kobe. larry brown knew what he was doing, he knew the lakers couldn't win the series with kobe jacking up shots. eliminate shaq from the offense by cutting off all routes leading to him and the pistons gain the leverage.


Dude. Shaq couldn't average 16 rebounds in that series if his life depnded on it...LOL.

dude. dennis rodman couldn't average 16 rebounds in that series if his lfie depended on it....detroit had the golden game plan that year.



Shaq in his prime could... ;D

i'm a big shaq fan but i dont' think he ever averaged 16 boards in a series


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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #140 on: June 21, 2007, 01:04:48 PM »

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's why the Lakers only won a game when KOBE had an amazing performance, huh?  


you pretend like kobe did it all himself that game, go back to my articles and it clearly shows that shaq got the lakers a three point play in the fourth and overtime play to make it even POSSIBLE for the kobe 3 a possibility.


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Dude, you already admitted that your love for Shaq goes beyond your love for the Lakers...

when have i ever said that? it's more true for me to say you like kobe more than i like shaq, and it's even more fair for me to say that your love for kobe in relation to the lakers far exudes my admiration for shaq's time in la in realtion to the organization. it'd be one thing if i became a laker fan when shaq joined the club, but i was a laker fan when sam perkins and vlade divac were our big men. that's why i'm still tyring to see a day when the lakers when, i'm not out rooting for the spurs/mavericks/suns/ect.  your argument is invalid here.

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If Kobe left the Lakers, I wouldn't give a SHIT about him. In fact, I would hope he fails wherever he went...That's the difference between me, a real Laker fan, and you, a Shaq fan...People can see this, bro...PeACe

yeah right we'll see, lol we'll see...

the very fact that you're still in kobe's corner after all his shenanigans tells me you'll still be in his corner when he's playing for the knicks or bucks or wherever he goes.

you know what i'll be nice too when that day comes and kobe is no longer on the lakers. because you do know it's possible to have a favorite player from a different team right ,lol? there's nothing sacreligious about it. in the 80's my favorite nba player was magic , then after he retired my favorite player became grand ma ma ... i mean larry johnson.... then shaqc....then one day in 96' my favorite player was on my favorite team....that shit was tight. now my favorite player plays on the heat....wish he still played on my favorite team. when shaq retires my favorite player will probably be carmelo anthony, maybe lamar odom  that's my second and third favorite players as of right now.only one of them is a laker, but so what if he's not after next season i like the way they play, they remind me of how i played.

in football my favorite players don't play on the cowboys or the raiders, even though we got one of the best wr's  and one of the best up and coming qb's and best defenses (combined). my favorite players play in different conferences on other teams  MILES away from oakland and dallas. lol true story

my favorite baseball player never played for the dodgers or angels, infact he use to play for a division rival for the angels and was compared to the biggest villian in recent dodger history (barry bonds)....ken griffy jr. so what , does that make me any less of a dodger.angel fan



NIK quit being so childish


^^If Kobe wasn't on the Lakers, he wouldn't be my favorite player. Unlike you, people don't doubt my Laker fan status...That's all there is to it.


like i said we'll see. we'll see, i got burnt copy of that doggystyle cd that says you'll post less about the lakers and still deep down inside still root for kobe. if you're still rooting for him now, you'll still be rooting for him when he's no longer a laker.


That's why you're a joke, because you make these senseless assumptions. I loved the Lakers before Kobe and I will love them after...The only reason I give a shit about Kobe is because he is a  L A K E R. You can't argue that, I was born into a family of Laker fans. Knowing myself, I will probably BOO Kobe when he comes to Staple Center if he switches teams. LMAO@your "burnt" Doggystyle CD. I want "Doggumentary"... :D
 

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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #141 on: June 21, 2007, 01:05:08 PM »
So basically after kobe gets traded were gonna stop having threads about kobe bryant cause nik won't like him anymore?? Perfect works for me
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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #142 on: June 21, 2007, 01:07:39 PM »

Yes...Kobe had the offense. ::) That's why he took less attempts than Shaq a game after his remarkable performance to save the Lakers, right? WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, SHAQ HAD CONTROL. You obviously didn't read Phil Jackson's "Last Season"...I don't even have to ask you, because it's self-evident based on the shit you're saying. Shaq was incapable of finding openings and dominating the center. He shot less, yet the offense was running through him. THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING, JAKE.


kobe shot one less shot than shaq....oooo wow, but still let's look at that game no one had the offense in that game, but what happened every other game when kobe shot almost twice as much as shaq, lol we lost big time

shaq had no control i don't know where you draw that from, he didn't touch the ball of even have possestion of the ball as long as kobe in that game. are you saying he did!? how could someone control the offense when they dont' have the ball or even touch it?  lol it's not like he was calling plays, GARY PAYTON was,lol



^^Shaq was demanding the ball on every single opening (which he had trouble creating). He said he wouldn't defense or rebound if it went down differently...I'm starting to doubt you even watched the series.

of corse he was demanding the ball but he wasn't getting it because DETROITS DEFENSE WOULDN'T ALLOW AN ENTRY PASS. shaq's a big dude but he he's not bigger than the combined height and weight of ben wallace and rasheed wallace. plus it didn't help that all he had was a broken karl malone down low with him. don't you even see what you're saying,lol? did you even watch the series. shaq could only get the ball fast break or trick ally oop passes:



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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #143 on: June 21, 2007, 01:08:43 PM »

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's why the Lakers only won a game when KOBE had an amazing performance, huh?  


you pretend like kobe did it all himself that game, go back to my articles and it clearly shows that shaq got the lakers a three point play in the fourth and overtime play to make it even POSSIBLE for the kobe 3 a possibility.


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Dude, you already admitted that your love for Shaq goes beyond your love for the Lakers...

when have i ever said that? it's more true for me to say you like kobe more than i like shaq, and it's even more fair for me to say that your love for kobe in relation to the lakers far exudes my admiration for shaq's time in la in realtion to the organization. it'd be one thing if i became a laker fan when shaq joined the club, but i was a laker fan when sam perkins and vlade divac were our big men. that's why i'm still tyring to see a day when the lakers when, i'm not out rooting for the spurs/mavericks/suns/ect.  your argument is invalid here.

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If Kobe left the Lakers, I wouldn't give a SHIT about him. In fact, I would hope he fails wherever he went...That's the difference between me, a real Laker fan, and you, a Shaq fan...People can see this, bro...PeACe

yeah right we'll see, lol we'll see...

the very fact that you're still in kobe's corner after all his shenanigans tells me you'll still be in his corner when he's playing for the knicks or bucks or wherever he goes.

you know what i'll be nice too when that day comes and kobe is no longer on the lakers. because you do know it's possible to have a favorite player from a different team right ,lol? there's nothing sacreligious about it. in the 80's my favorite nba player was magic , then after he retired my favorite player became grand ma ma ... i mean larry johnson.... then shaqc....then one day in 96' my favorite player was on my favorite team....that shit was tight. now my favorite player plays on the heat....wish he still played on my favorite team. when shaq retires my favorite player will probably be carmelo anthony, maybe lamar odom  that's my second and third favorite players as of right now.only one of them is a laker, but so what if he's not after next season i like the way they play, they remind me of how i played.

in football my favorite players don't play on the cowboys or the raiders, even though we got one of the best wr's  and one of the best up and coming qb's and best defenses (combined). my favorite players play in different conferences on other teams  MILES away from oakland and dallas. lol true story

my favorite baseball player never played for the dodgers or angels, infact he use to play for a division rival for the angels and was compared to the biggest villian in recent dodger history (barry bonds)....ken griffy jr. so what , does that make me any less of a dodger.angel fan



NIK quit being so childish


^^If Kobe wasn't on the Lakers, he wouldn't be my favorite player. Unlike you, people don't doubt my Laker fan status...That's all there is to it.


like i said we'll see. we'll see, i got burnt copy of that doggystyle cd that says you'll post less about the lakers and still deep down inside still root for kobe. if you're still rooting for him now, you'll still be rooting for him when he's no longer a laker.


That's why you're a joke, because you make these senseless assumptions. I loved the Lakers before Kobe and I will love them after...The only reason I give a shit about Kobe is because he is a  L A K E R. You can't argue that, I was born into a family of Laker fans. Knowing myself, I will probably BOO Kobe when he comes to Staple Center if he switches teams. LMAO@your "burnt" Doggystyle CD. I want "Doggumentary"... :D

like i said....we'll see, we'll see.


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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #144 on: June 21, 2007, 01:09:27 PM »



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Kobe wasn't ALLOWED to have a vintage Kobe series...After his amazing performance in Game 2, he only had 13 attempts in Game 3!!! If the Lakers were running under Kobe, NO WAY that happens..

shaq/or the other lakers for that matter weren't allowed to have a vintage lakers series....larry brown was one step ahead of everyone with his defense.....you can't say kobe wasn't heading the offense when everyone else had 4-5 shots and shaq had like what 10/11 in that same game 3.....you're giving shaq too much negative credit and the pistons not enough positive credit. face it kobe HAD the offense, and coudln't pull throug.

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even if he wasn't averaging 38 points and 16 rebounds.....he would have if the lakers were ABLE to get clear passing lanes to him

LMAO!

how is that funny when he was grabbing over or near 30 points in many of those games. situation determines behavior. notice that kobe's number dipped in the same games shaq's did as well. detroit defense right there. detroit put a dam on the passing lanes inside which eliminated shaq and malone down low, which forced the lakers to take wild out side shots....in particularly kobe. larry brown knew what he was doing, he knew the lakers couldn't win the series with kobe jacking up shots. eliminate shaq from the offense by cutting off all routes leading to him and the pistons gain the leverage.


Dude. Shaq couldn't average 16 rebounds in that series if his life depnded on it...LOL.

dude. dennis rodman couldn't average 16 rebounds in that series if his lfie depended on it....detroit had the golden game plan that year.



Shaq in his prime could... ;D

i'm a big shaq fan but i dont' think he ever averaged 16 boards in a series


LMAO! You don't remember 3peat Shaq, do you?
 

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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #145 on: June 21, 2007, 01:09:52 PM »

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's why the Lakers only won a game when KOBE had an amazing performance, huh?  


you pretend like kobe did it all himself that game, go back to my articles and it clearly shows that shaq got the lakers a three point play in the fourth and overtime play to make it even POSSIBLE for the kobe 3 a possibility.


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Dude, you already admitted that your love for Shaq goes beyond your love for the Lakers...

when have i ever said that? it's more true for me to say you like kobe more than i like shaq, and it's even more fair for me to say that your love for kobe in relation to the lakers far exudes my admiration for shaq's time in la in realtion to the organization. it'd be one thing if i became a laker fan when shaq joined the club, but i was a laker fan when sam perkins and vlade divac were our big men. that's why i'm still tyring to see a day when the lakers when, i'm not out rooting for the spurs/mavericks/suns/ect.  your argument is invalid here.

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If Kobe left the Lakers, I wouldn't give a SHIT about him. In fact, I would hope he fails wherever he went...That's the difference between me, a real Laker fan, and you, a Shaq fan...People can see this, bro...PeACe

yeah right we'll see, lol we'll see...

the very fact that you're still in kobe's corner after all his shenanigans tells me you'll still be in his corner when he's playing for the knicks or bucks or wherever he goes.

you know what i'll be nice too when that day comes and kobe is no longer on the lakers. because you do know it's possible to have a favorite player from a different team right ,lol? there's nothing sacreligious about it. in the 80's my favorite nba player was magic , then after he retired my favorite player became grand ma ma ... i mean larry johnson.... then shaqc....then one day in 96' my favorite player was on my favorite team....that shit was tight. now my favorite player plays on the heat....wish he still played on my favorite team. when shaq retires my favorite player will probably be carmelo anthony, maybe lamar odom  that's my second and third favorite players as of right now.only one of them is a laker, but so what if he's not after next season i like the way they play, they remind me of how i played.

in football my favorite players don't play on the cowboys or the raiders, even though we got one of the best wr's  and one of the best up and coming qb's and best defenses (combined). my favorite players play in different conferences on other teams  MILES away from oakland and dallas. lol true story

my favorite baseball player never played for the dodgers or angels, infact he use to play for a division rival for the angels and was compared to the biggest villian in recent dodger history (barry bonds)....ken griffy jr. so what , does that make me any less of a dodger.angel fan



NIK quit being so childish


^^If Kobe wasn't on the Lakers, he wouldn't be my favorite player. Unlike you, people don't doubt my Laker fan status...That's all there is to it.


like i said we'll see. we'll see, i got burnt copy of that doggystyle cd that says you'll post less about the lakers and still deep down inside still root for kobe. if you're still rooting for him now, you'll still be rooting for him when he's no longer a laker.


That's why you're a joke, because you make these senseless assumptions. I loved the Lakers before Kobe and I will love them after...The only reason I give a shit about Kobe is because he is a  L A K E R. You can't argue that, I was born into a family of Laker fans. Knowing myself, I will probably BOO Kobe when he comes to Staple Center if he switches teams. LMAO@your "burnt" Doggystyle CD. I want "Doggumentary"... :D

like i said....we'll see, we'll see.


No we wont, cuz Kobe's not getting traded...
 

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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #146 on: June 21, 2007, 01:12:14 PM »

Yes...Kobe had the offense. ::) That's why he took less attempts than Shaq a game after his remarkable performance to save the Lakers, right? WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, SHAQ HAD CONTROL. You obviously didn't read Phil Jackson's "Last Season"...I don't even have to ask you, because it's self-evident based on the shit you're saying. Shaq was incapable of finding openings and dominating the center. He shot less, yet the offense was running through him. THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING, JAKE.


kobe shot one less shot than shaq....oooo wow, but still let's look at that game no one had the offense in that game, but what happened every other game when kobe shot almost twice as much as shaq, lol we lost big time

shaq had no control i don't know where you draw that from, he didn't touch the ball of even have possestion of the ball as long as kobe in that game. are you saying he did!? how could someone control the offense when they dont' have the ball or even touch it?  lol it's not like he was calling plays, GARY PAYTON was,lol



^^Shaq was demanding the ball on every single opening (which he had trouble creating). He said he wouldn't defense or rebound if it went down differently...I'm starting to doubt you even watched the series.

of corse he was demanding the ball but he wasn't getting it because DETROITS DEFENSE WOULDN'T ALLOW AN ENTRY PASS. shaq's a big dude but he he's not bigger than the combined height and weight of ben wallace and rasheed wallace. plus it didn't help that all he had was a broken karl malone down low with him. don't you even see what you're saying,lol? did you even watch the series. shaq could only get the ball fast break or trick ally oop passes:




EXACTLY! Getting a post-entry pass depends on the post players ability to get into position, and Shaq was WAY too out-of-shape to dominate the opposition and muscle through the defense like he used to...Now you're getting it, Jake...PeACe
 

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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #147 on: June 21, 2007, 01:13:06 PM »
Kobe is as good as gone as far as im concerned. Hopefully we see him this sunday on espn ripping the lakers a new 1 on the sunday conversation. That would be nice
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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #148 on: June 21, 2007, 01:14:24 PM »
Kobe is as good as gone as far as im concerned. Hopefully we see him this sunday on espn ripping the lakers a new 1 on the sunday conversation. That would be nice


Good thing you're not concerned...Like everyone within the Laker organization keeps insisting, Kobe is going nowhere.
 

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Re: This series proves why Duncan is better than Shaq
« Reply #149 on: June 21, 2007, 01:38:11 PM »
^^^ Do u want to put a $100 wager on it. Make things a lil more interesting for me
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