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Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 21, 2007, 02:56:20 PMWhat the hell is this? LMAO. Kobe has played HALF a career...Exactly; that is why i pointed out that not all of these numbers mean a whole lot. However, MANY of them are quite telling, but as usual you nitpick and disregard the things that are on point. Point in case:Games with NO assists:Jordan- 7Kobe- 47!!!Games with 5+ turnovers- Jordan-132Kobe-147Games with under 50% shootingMichael Jordan: 466 (43% of games)Kobe Bryant: 489 (62% of games)Kobe Bryant is not among the top 100 players all time in assists per game.Michael Jordan is. He’s #76 in assists per game and #34 in assists.Michael Jordan is #3 all time in rebounding by a guard (behind Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson).Kobe Bryant is not among the top 50 players all time in steals per game.Michael Jordan is. He’s #4 in steals per game and #2 in steals.Michael Jordan is #1 all time in blocks by a guard.Games with 8+ stealsAir: 12Bean: 0Games with 7+ stealsAir: 18Bean: 1Of the 143 50 point games since 1986, in terms of shooting percentage:Michael Jordan's games include #1, #5, #8, #17, #21, #22, etc.Kobe Bryant's games include10 of the 30 worst7 of the 15 worstThe 3 worst#118, #120, #122, #129, #131, #132, #133, #141, #142, #143In NBA history, there are 13 50 point games with under 50% shooting, and Kobe Bryant is responsible for 6 of them.Games playes will only make somethings worse for Kobe; he will never catch Jordan's 3 games played with no assists!
What the hell is this? LMAO. Kobe has played HALF a career...
Quote from: Jrome Is Officially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on June 21, 2007, 03:15:33 PMEven if Mr. Bean hasn't played as many games, he'll still not overtake Jordan in many of those statistics.Jordan>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe. Exactly!Kobe could make 1500 shots in a row, and he'd barely pass Jordan in FG%.Now let's assume that Kobe takes 2000 shots per season.At that rate he'd need to convert on 56.3% of his shot attempts for the next five years. We know this is impossible already, especially for a guard. Even MJ couldn't do it for a season!Or perhaps Kobe plays for ten more years, averaging 1500 shots per season. He'd need to shoot over 54% to match Jordan, and once again, Jordan barely did this himself for one season. If Kobe played until he was 50, another 21 years and every game of every season starting now, he would still have to average 32.6 ppg just to near Jordan's career ppg. HAHA! sfhguibnbhq | May 18, 2007If Kobe played another ten years (which he won't), and averaged 80 games each season (800 games total), he would have to average over 35.5 points per game to match Jordan's career scoring average. Kobe won't even have a season on that level.If Kobe played another 8 years for 640 more games, 36.9 ppg.If Kobe played another 5 years for 400 more games, 41 ppg.If Kobe wanted to match Jordan's average by the time he has been playing as long as Jordan did, 45.1 ppg... yeah right. Of course, alot of that has to do with Kobe coming to the league at 18, which WAS his choice. Lebron was able to be dominant at 18, why not Kobe?
Even if Mr. Bean hasn't played as many games, he'll still not overtake Jordan in many of those statistics.Jordan>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe.
If he was as good at 18 as LBJ , he wouldn't have been behind Eddie Jones, simple as that. Kobe was not that good at that age, did you watch when he was on the court? However, who's to say Jordan would have been great in the NBA at 18; he wasn't even the best player on his college team. That is besides the point; Kobe came to the NBA at 18 as the first guard to make the jump, and he wasn't really ready. His choice, oh well.
im not even going to read this thread all i have to say is Kobe is better than MJ at this point in their careers and Kobe has a realistic chance of really surpassing Jordan as the GOAT.
Quote from: Vegasmac25 on June 21, 2007, 04:06:18 PMim not even going to read this thread all i have to say is Kobe is better than MJ at this point in their careers and Kobe has a realistic chance of really surpassing Jordan as the GOAT.Keep smoking that pipe kid
Quote from: Citizen-Y on June 21, 2007, 04:09:57 PMQuote from: Vegasmac25 on June 21, 2007, 04:06:18 PMim not even going to read this thread all i have to say is Kobe is better than MJ at this point in their careers and Kobe has a realistic chance of really surpassing Jordan as the GOAT.Keep smoking that pipe kidYou are a flat out HATER if you deny Kobe has the chance to surpass Jordan, with the skill he possesses at the age of 28, when Jordan only had 1 ring.
awesome,another jordan,kobe thread.......
Even if Kobe was only getting 5 minute spots, it's on him for coming out the gate at 18. If Jordan would have done the same, he wouldn't have gotten any PT either. But if you're gonna throw out Kobe's early season(s), then throw out Jordan's 2 worst as well. You can't have it both ways.
Quote from: Jrome Is Officially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on June 21, 2007, 05:22:07 PMEven if Kobe was only getting 5 minute spots, it's on him for coming out the gate at 18. If Jordan would have done the same, he wouldn't have gotten any PT either. But if you're gonna throw out Kobe's early season(s), then throw out Jordan's 2 worst as well. You can't have it both ways.The point is, lists like these can be made both ways. But like Vegasmac said, Kobe is better and has accomplished more than Jordan by this point in his career...PeACe
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 21, 2007, 05:26:13 PMQuote from: Jrome Is Officially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on June 21, 2007, 05:22:07 PMEven if Kobe was only getting 5 minute spots, it's on him for coming out the gate at 18. If Jordan would have done the same, he wouldn't have gotten any PT either. But if you're gonna throw out Kobe's early season(s), then throw out Jordan's 2 worst as well. You can't have it both ways.The point is, lists like these can be made both ways. But like Vegasmac said, Kobe is better and has accomplished more than Jordan by this point in his career...PeACeIn Jordan's first 11 years he won 4 titles. but just for you!
Are you serious? Kobe has accomplished more? LMAO. Yeah right. In the first 11 years of his career Jordan had: 3 MVP trophies, 7 of his 10 NBA All First Team, 4 NBA Titles, 4 Finals MVP's (I believe), Defensive Player of the Year award, 7 All Defense First Team, 8 All Star selections, 2 All Star Game MVPs.Thats a lot to accomplish in just 11 years. I don't think Kobe has done ALL that... Has he?