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Are Lebanese the most useless people ever
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: The Overfiend on June 27, 2007, 10:18:19 PM ---But the Litani river and the southern boarder is not an issue worth risking the ENTIRE country for.
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...but I thought you said...
--- Quote from: The Overfiend on June 25, 2007, 09:16:50 PM ---Hell no, I dont believe the Mid-East should just allow Israel have its way
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People were saying "this chunk of land isn't worth risking the entire country for" when Hitler's Germany was annexing land in Europe... and later realized that was a dumb mistake. If Hezbollah isn't there, Israel will just take that shit... the only thing in their way is Hezbollah... and that's why they're so persistent in their bullshit.
AndrE16686:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on June 27, 2007, 10:35:37 PM ---If Hezbollah isn't there, Israel will just take that shit... the only thing in their way is Hezbollah... and that's why they're so persistent in their bullshit.
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I think instead of Hezbollah guarding the boarder, Lebanon needs proper government forces there, because they won't be popping off rounds into Israel. I think it should be for the Lebanese government to decide it's own relations with Israel, not a terrorist organisation that's existence is justified by fighting with Israel. Often Hezbollah's actions are the excuse Israel needs, if Israel had a peaceful boarder with Lebanon, with Lebanese army troops manning the boarder instead of a terrorist militia like Hezbollah, it would be a war between nations if Israel invaded south Lebanon, instead of a war between a terrorist group and a nation. I just think dealing with Israel can't be done through violence, because then it will always be justified in whatever it does. The best way to deal with it is nation to nation and any disputes whether over access to water or whatever should be able to be pursued through diplomatic channels inside of just throwing it all in with the militias and their tactics.
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I TO DA GEEZY:
Overfiend ,you keep mentioning the term "terrorist" as if to question the legitimacy of resistance to Israeli expansionism. Let's examine this term shall we. The capsule definition of "terrorism" is the indiscriminate targeting of civilians to achieve political ends. Now let's look at the numbers. During the second Lebanon war Hezbollah killed approximately 40 Israeli civilians, Israel killed some 1000 civilians. In plain terms, Israel committed 25 times the terror Hezbollah committed. However, it doesn't seem like you object Israel entering negotiations on grounds of being "terrorist". I'm granting that you meant to use the term in the aforementioned sense. It's also possible you meant "terrorist" in its official state propaganda sense implying that whoever digresses from the pro-American interest in the middle east is a "terrorist".
AndrE16686:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on June 28, 2007, 05:47:59 AM ---Overfiend ,you keep mentioning the term "terrorist" as if to question the legitimacy of resistance to Israeli expansionism. Let's examine this term shall we. The capsule definition of "terrorism" is the indiscriminate targeting of civilians to achieve political ends. Now let's look at the numbers. During the second Lebanon war Hezbollah killed approximately 40 Israeli civilians, Israel killed some 1000 civilians. In plain terms, Israel committed 25 times the terror Hezbollah committed. However, it doesn't seem like you object Israel entering negotiations on grounds of being "terrorist".
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whether 40 or 1000, its still terrorism, everybody is terrorist, Israel, US, most countries, I mean to use the term terrorist in describing Hezbollah to indicate it's standing/image in the eyes of the world. It is classified as a terrorist organisation by the US and because of this it has less credibility as a defensive force as opposed to say, the Lebanese government's army would. Don't get me wrong yall, I find myself shouting shit at the TV and cursing Israel whenever a Palestinian kid gets capped. I am not a supporter of Israel in the traditional sense, but I am critical of viewing any opposition against Israel as legitimate. I knew alot of Israeli people, in my old neighbourhood, I think what we forget is that Israelis are people like anyone else, so I really can't see Hezbollah's actions of sending rockets everynow and then into Israel as a sane way of dealing with politics, they are murderers like everyone else, so they could get taken off for all I care.
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