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Are Lebanese the most useless people ever
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: The Overfiend on June 28, 2007, 06:22:19 AM ---It is classified as a terrorist organisation by the US and because of this it has less credibility as a defensive force as opposed to say, the Lebanese government's army would.
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lol...Just wanted to make sure that:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on June 28, 2007, 05:47:59 AM ---you meant "terrorist" in its official state propaganda sense implying that whoever digresses from the pro-American interest in the middle east is a "terrorist".
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J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: The Overfiend on June 28, 2007, 04:58:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on June 27, 2007, 10:35:37 PM ---If Hezbollah isn't there, Israel will just take that shit... the only thing in their way is Hezbollah... and that's why they're so persistent in their bullshit.
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I think instead of Hezbollah guarding the boarder, Lebanon needs proper government forces there, because they won't be popping off rounds into Israel. I think it should be for the Lebanese government to decide it's own relations with Israel, not a terrorist organisation that's existence is justified by fighting with Israel. Often Hezbollah's actions are the excuse Israel needs, if Israel had a peaceful boarder with Lebanon, with Lebanese army troops manning the boarder instead of a terrorist militia like Hezbollah, it would be a war between nations if Israel invaded south Lebanon, instead of a war between a terrorist group and a nation. I just think dealing with Israel can't be done through violence, because then it will always be justified in whatever it does. The best way to deal with it is nation to nation and any disputes whether over access to water or whatever should be able to be pursued through diplomatic channels inside of just throwing it all in with the militias and their tactics.
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I have one thing to say to refute that bullshit: 1982... Hezbollah wasn't there, and Israel invaded...
J @ M @ L:
"Terrorism is the war of the poor; war is the terrorism of the rich."
AndrE16686:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on June 28, 2007, 03:51:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: The Overfiend on June 28, 2007, 04:58:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on June 27, 2007, 10:35:37 PM ---If Hezbollah isn't there, Israel will just take that shit... the only thing in their way is Hezbollah... and that's why they're so persistent in their bullshit.
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I think instead of Hezbollah guarding the boarder, Lebanon needs proper government forces there, because they won't be popping off rounds into Israel. I think it should be for the Lebanese government to decide it's own relations with Israel, not a terrorist organisation that's existence is justified by fighting with Israel. Often Hezbollah's actions are the excuse Israel needs, if Israel had a peaceful boarder with Lebanon, with Lebanese army troops manning the boarder instead of a terrorist militia like Hezbollah, it would be a war between nations if Israel invaded south Lebanon, instead of a war between a terrorist group and a nation. I just think dealing with Israel can't be done through violence, because then it will always be justified in whatever it does. The best way to deal with it is nation to nation and any disputes whether over access to water or whatever should be able to be pursued through diplomatic channels inside of just throwing it all in with the militias and their tactics.
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I have one thing to say to refute that bullshit: 1982... Hezbollah wasn't there, and Israel invaded...
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--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on June 28, 2007, 03:53:36 PM ---"Terrorism is the war of the poor; war is the terrorism of the rich."
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You fail to grasp my point everytime, the government was taking a broad perspective, whereas Hezbollah was only pursuing short term goals.
Im not saying that Israel won't attack, but that it is better to have your boarders guarded by an army that is accountable to the state and the people instead. Hezbollah as a militia dosnt seem to be accountable to the state and dosnt care what the government wants and since it is not accountable to the government, it disregards the Lebanese people and the safety of the economy.
If you look at the 2006 conflict, the Lebanese government wanted Hezbollah to release the captured Israeli soldiers cause it feared Israel would respond and put the country's infastructure and economy in danger, my point is the government was looking out for alot of factors about Lebanon such as the economic safety of the country and the infastructure, factors that would have been put in danger by Hezbollah escalating something with Israel. Being poor dosnt make your war any more justified. It probably makes you more reckless and irrational though.
AndrE16686:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on June 28, 2007, 06:39:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: The Overfiend on June 28, 2007, 06:22:19 AM ---It is classified as a terrorist organisation by the US and because of this it has less credibility as a defensive force as opposed to say, the Lebanese government's army would.
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lol...Just wanted to make sure that:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on June 28, 2007, 05:47:59 AM ---you meant "terrorist" in its official state propaganda sense implying that whoever digresses from the pro-American interest in the middle east is a "terrorist".
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I don't know what you are trying to get at or imply, but terrorism is a term meaning whoever uses violence as a political tool, so yes, Hezbollah are terrorists, so is the US, Israel, etc.
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