Gordon Brown rejects Stein knighthood calls

[Mac 10 †]

Gordon Brown rejects Stein knighthood calls

Prime Minister Gordon Brown has rejected a petition calling for the former Celtic manager Jock Stein to be awarded a posthumous knighthood.

In a statement on the 10 Downing Street website in response to the petition, Brown said knighthoods cannot be awarded posthumously.

The statement reads: "A knighthood is an honour only given during someone's lifetime."

In 1967, Stein became the first British manager to win the European Cup.

Stein also won 10 Scottish League titles, nine Scottish cups, and six Scottish League Cups.

He collapsed and died in 1985, during a Scotland match with Wales, aged 62.

In 1961, he led Dunfermline into Europe after winning the Scottish Cup.

In March, two Labour MPs tabled a Commons motion calling for former Stein to be awarded a posthumous knighthood.

In the statement, the prime minister said unlike bravery awards and medals, knighthoods have never been granted posthumously.

The statement continues: "Formally, this is because recipients of honours receive their award when they attend an Investiture ceremony in person.

"The fact that Mr Jock Stein CBE was not knighted, however, does not in any way detract from the contribution he made to this country.

"His life and achievements have each been celebrated and remembered in many other ways.

"But a knighthood is, however, not possible for someone, no matter how accomplished, who is no longer able to receive it."

As a player Stein captained Celtic to Coronation Cup success when they beat Arsenal, Manchester United and Hibernian to become unofficial champions of Britain in 1953.

Stein steered Scotland to the 1982 World Cup but suffered a fatal heart attack during a qualifying match in Wales on the way to Mexico '86.

Seventeen MPs signed a motion by MP George Howarth, calling for former Liverpool manager Bob Paisley to be awarded a knighthood - 11 years after his death.

Spurs fans have attempted a similar, but so far unsuccessful, attempt at winning a similar honour for former player and manager Bill Nicholson, who died in October 2004.

[Paul]

what a wanker


btw the mendieta goal u hav i n your sig is the greatest goal ever, i remember watchin tht match and goin crazy when tht went in

[TheDeli]

A knighthood for a man that the Celtic board wouldn't even make a director?

A knighthood for a man that kept a scandal quiet for the 'good of the club'?

A posthumous knighthood is not possible, both Tottenham and Liverpool fans tried this for Bill Nicholson and Bob Paisley respectively and they were told that it was not possible as you can't get a posthumous knighthood

[Mac 10 †]

A knighthood for a man that the Celtic board wouldn't even make a director?

A knighthood for a man that kept a scandal quiet for the 'good of the club'?

A posthumous knighthood is not possible, both Tottenham and Liverpool fans tried this for Bill Nicholson and Bob Paisley respectively and they were told that it was not possible as you can't get a posthumous knighthood

Seventeen MPs signed a motion by MP George Howarth, calling for former Liverpool manager Bob Paisley to be awarded a knighthood - 11 years after his death.

Spurs fans have attempted a similar, but so far unsuccessful, attempt at winning a similar honour for former player and manager Bill Nicholson, who died in October 2004.

Good to know you actually read the article before firing out with your hate-filled response.

[TheDeli]

Hate-filled?  What part is hate filled, please tell me? and tell me what part is incorrect?

In 1967 he done enough for a knighthood

He also done more than enough to become a director at your club with his achievements as both a player and a manager, instead he was rewarded with a position as a pools agent, what was the reason for this I wonder   

[Mac 10 †]

Nice avoidance of the point. 

[TheDeli]

Nice avoidance of the point. 

yeah you have

Yes I typed something that was already posted - I was making a point that was already covered to show how crazy the appeal is

Now your doing well at avoiding how my post was 'hate filled'

[Paul]

man celtic and rangers fans have some hate for each other

[Boo-Yaa †]

A knighthood for a man that kept a scandal quiet for the 'good of the club'?

i guess your reffering to the "Big Jock Knew" rubbish!

 I don't know why most rangers fans feel the need to slander a dead man's reputation at every opportunity.

He was dead almost ten years before the court case and was not there to defend himself... let him RIP.

Think how his family must feel having to listen to all this!

Scumbags of the highest order!

[Sweet & Tender Hooligan]

A knighthood for a man that kept a scandal quiet for the 'good of the club'?

i guess your reffering to the "Big Jock Knew" rubbish!

 I don't know why most rangers fans feel the need to slander a dead man's reputation at every opportunity.

He was dead almost ten years before the court case and was not there to defend himself... let him RIP.

Think how his family must feel having to listen to all this!

Scumbags of the highest order!

+1 Huns oot! (of Dubcc)

[TheDeli]

A knighthood for a man that kept a scandal quiet for the 'good of the club'?

i guess your reffering to the "Big Jock Knew" rubbish!

 I don't know why most rangers fans feel the need to slander a dead man's reputation at every opportunity.

He was dead almost ten years before the court case and was not there to defend himself... let him RIP.

Think how his family must feel having to listen to all this!

Scumbags of the highest order!

It was mentioned in a court of law, you know the case where the abuse became public knowledge

Why should someone who did this receive a knighthood?

I have already said that he did enough for a knighthood due to achievements in 1967

Quick question do you know the significance of the lucozade bottle in that picture?

[TheDeli]

+1 Huns oot! (of Dubcc)

You want Celtic fans out?

That with the original 'huns' being Celtic

Please tell me why we are called huns?