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You're retarded if you don't think Odom can put 20-10 in Phoenix's system...As a matter of fact, Odom has put up 15-10-5, which is arguably better (EVEN IN NUMBERS!), and consider that Odom is a superior defender to Marion, who can only pick off weak-side steals and blocks. Good clean-up man...Highly overrated. Talk to me when you can explain Marion getting owned in every head-to-head match-up they've had ...PeACe
Quote from: Now_I_Know on August 06, 2007, 09:21:24 PMYou're retarded if you don't think Odom can put 20-10 in Phoenix's system...As a matter of fact, Odom has put up 15-10-5, which is arguably better (EVEN IN NUMBERS!), and consider that Odom is a superior defender to Marion, who can only pick off weak-side steals and blocks. Good clean-up man...Highly overrated. Talk to me when you can explain Marion getting owned in every head-to-head match-up they've had ...PeACeLamar Odom: 6-10, 230lbsShawn Marion: 6-7, 228lbsCareer Average in ReboundsLamar Odom: 8.6Shawn Marion: 10.0So Marion is smaller but can still out rebound Odom? Numbers don't lie bitchboy.
Quote from: GangstaBoogy on August 06, 2007, 10:06:23 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on August 06, 2007, 09:21:24 PMYou're retarded if you don't think Odom can put 20-10 in Phoenix's system...As a matter of fact, Odom has put up 15-10-5, which is arguably better (EVEN IN NUMBERS!), and consider that Odom is a superior defender to Marion, who can only pick off weak-side steals and blocks. Good clean-up man...Highly overrated. Talk to me when you can explain Marion getting owned in every head-to-head match-up they've had ...PeACeLamar Odom: 6-10, 230lbsShawn Marion: 6-7, 228lbsCareer Average in ReboundsLamar Odom: 8.6Shawn Marion: 10.0So Marion is smaller but can still out rebound Odom? Numbers don't lie bitchboy.Moron, how many shots are attempted on average in a Phoenix Sun game as opposed to a Laker game? Marion is a good rebounder, but Odom is still better. Marion plays in a system where he handles most of the rebounds, because, once again, he's the clean-up dude out there...Odom gets his rebounds by boxing out and fighting for the ball, he's known for stealing boards from the other Laker bigs. In Marions case, there really are no bigs. Let me guess, Steve Nash is on Magics level since their numbers are comparable? Learn how to judge basketball before you decide to call people out on rational claims and make an ass of yourself...PeACe
O'Neal, a six-time All-Star, downplayed the trade talk in an interview with The Associated Press. "I don't think me saying I'd like to go with those teams is me saying I want to be traded," he said. ESPN.comIndiana Pacers forward Jermaine O'Neal has discounted Internet reports that he wants to be traded to the Los Angeles Lakers. "My preference is to play here and win here," O'Neal said in a telephone interview after returning from Los Angeles on Monday afternoon, attempting to deflate a brewing controversy that had brought clarifying statements from Pacers president Larry Bird and O'Neal's agent, Arn Tellem. Indianapolis Star"Larry Bird is a hard man to deal with," O'Neal was quoted as saying. "He tries to make unfair trades. He wants to gut a team, but the Lakers are trying to get over the hump. I want Indiana to benefit, but with some nice young players and draft picks. I want to make it clear that I don't want to gut a team that I come to, because then it'll be like Indiana all over again." O'Neal denied making that statement Monday when it was read to him. "Wow," he said. "I didn't say that." Indianapolis StarO'Neal said he recognized that the Pacers are rebuilding with young players and he might not be part of future plans. "If they want to move in a different direction, I wouldn't be disgruntled about it," he said. "If I am traded, it would be seven great years I had with this team. And if I'm going to be here, I'd welcome it with open arms." ESPN.comHis agent, Arn Tellem, flatly denied the trade talk in an e-mail to the AP. "He hasn't requested a trade to the Lakers," Tellem wrote. "Any reports to the contrary are inaccurate." ESPN.comPacers president Larry Bird didn't rule out a trade. "In any discussions regarding him or any of our other players, the expectations for the franchise and our fans is to receive fair market value in return if a trade is to be considered," Bird said in a statement Monday. ESPN.com"Kobe's been criticized unfairly," O'Neal said. "He's in a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situation. If he passes too much, they say he's not shooting. If he shoots, he's called selfish. He can go out and score 50 and lose, but if you don't take your shots, you're going to lose anyway. Everybody handles situations differently, and he handled the situation the best that he could. All in all, he wants to put out a team that can win. When you get into your 11th year, your body begins to wear down. You see the window of opportunity closing fast. I understand exactly what he's saying. That's what I told my team. That's why it's best for me to move on." ESPN
Are you truly this retarded or can you just not fully comprehend what's being thrown at you? Tell me, man...READ WHAT I SAY, DIPSHIT. Marion's rebounds are inflated because he is the CLEAN-UP MAN on a team that averages a much greater amount of shot attempts than the average team, hence the notion that Phoenix runs a stat-inflating sytem...If you weren't this retarded, I wouldn't have to reiterate the same shit 8 times, and we'd be on the next subject...Hell, if you watched both players play, especially against eachother in the playoffs, I wouldn't have to say this in the first place. DUMBSHIT.