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GangstaBoogy

Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2007, 10:06:23 PM »
You're retarded if you don't think Odom can put 20-10 in Phoenix's system...As a matter of fact, Odom has put up 15-10-5, which is arguably better (EVEN IN NUMBERS!), and consider that Odom is a superior defender to Marion, who can only pick off weak-side steals and blocks. Good clean-up man...Highly overrated. Talk to me when you can explain Marion getting owned in every head-to-head match-up they've had :-*...PeACe

Lamar Odom: 6-10, 230lbs
Shawn Marion: 6-7, 228lbs

Career Average in Rebounds
Lamar Odom: 8.6
Shawn Marion: 10.0

So Marion is smaller but can still out rebound Odom? Numbers don't lie bitchboy.
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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2007, 10:15:37 PM »
Actually these numbers say a lot. They were both drafted in the 99-00 draft class so take a look at their career numbers...

Shawn Marion: 18.6 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 2.0 apg, 1.9 spg, 1.3 bpg, 47.9 fg%, 34.2 3p fg%, 83.0 ft % - 613 games

Lamar Odom: 15.8 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.0 spg, 1.0 bpg, 45.3 fg%, 31.7 3p fg%, 71.0 ft % - 510 games

So the ONLY category that Odom wins in is assists. Oh and turnovers if you want to count that (Odom averages 3.0 turnovers to Marion's 1.6).

Debate over.
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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2007, 10:28:47 PM »
LMAO...That's because Marion is not nearly as versatile as Odom, if you actually watched them both play instead of just reading numbers, you'd know this. Odom actually handles the ball and makes plays, hence the higher turnover ratio. Marion a CLEAN-UP man who gets spoon-fed dunks. And yes, Marion has had a stronger career than Odom, but as of now, Lamar Odom is the better player...PeACe
 

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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2007, 10:33:32 PM »
You're retarded if you don't think Odom can put 20-10 in Phoenix's system...As a matter of fact, Odom has put up 15-10-5, which is arguably better (EVEN IN NUMBERS!), and consider that Odom is a superior defender to Marion, who can only pick off weak-side steals and blocks. Good clean-up man...Highly overrated. Talk to me when you can explain Marion getting owned in every head-to-head match-up they've had :-*...PeACe

Lamar Odom: 6-10, 230lbs
Shawn Marion: 6-7, 228lbs

Career Average in Rebounds
Lamar Odom: 8.6
Shawn Marion: 10.0

So Marion is smaller but can still out rebound Odom? Numbers don't lie bitchboy.


Moron, how many shots are attempted on average in a Phoenix Sun game as opposed to a Laker game? Marion is a good rebounder, but Odom is still better. Marion plays in a system where he handles most of the rebounds, because, once again, he's the clean-up dude out there...Odom gets his rebounds by boxing out and fighting for the ball, he's known for stealing boards from the other Laker bigs. In Marions case, there really are no bigs. Let me guess, Steve Nash is on Magics level since their numbers are comparable? Learn how to judge basketball before you decide to call people out on rational claims and make an ass of yourself...PeACe
 

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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2007, 10:46:04 PM »
You're retarded if you don't think Odom can put 20-10 in Phoenix's system...As a matter of fact, Odom has put up 15-10-5, which is arguably better (EVEN IN NUMBERS!), and consider that Odom is a superior defender to Marion, who can only pick off weak-side steals and blocks. Good clean-up man...Highly overrated. Talk to me when you can explain Marion getting owned in every head-to-head match-up they've had :-*...PeACe

Lamar Odom: 6-10, 230lbs
Shawn Marion: 6-7, 228lbs

Career Average in Rebounds
Lamar Odom: 8.6
Shawn Marion: 10.0

So Marion is smaller but can still out rebound Odom? Numbers don't lie bitchboy.


Moron, how many shots are attempted on average in a Phoenix Sun game as opposed to a Laker game? Marion is a good rebounder, but Odom is still better. Marion plays in a system where he handles most of the rebounds, because, once again, he's the clean-up dude out there...Odom gets his rebounds by boxing out and fighting for the ball, he's known for stealing boards from the other Laker bigs. In Marions case, there really are no bigs. Let me guess, Steve Nash is on Magics level since their numbers are comparable? Learn how to judge basketball before you decide to call people out on rational claims and make an ass of yourself...PeACe

How the fuck is Odom a better rebounder? Marion is averaging 10 rebounds and he played with Stoudemire most of his career. Odom can't even average 10 on a team with no legit rebounder. Wait let me guess...Mihm is the best bench rebounder in the league right? And Bynum is a 10 rpg game because of his potential right? Stop being such a Stan. Its not cute if you're over the age of 12.
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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2007, 12:56:53 AM »
Are you truly this retarded or can you just not fully comprehend what's being thrown at you? Tell me, man...

READ WHAT I SAY, DIPSHIT. Marion's rebounds are inflated because he is the CLEAN-UP MAN on a team that averages a much greater amount of shot attempts than the average team, hence the notion that Phoenix runs a stat-inflating sytem...If you weren't this retarded, I wouldn't have to reiterate the same shit 8 times, and we'd be on the next subject...Hell, if you watched both players play, especially against eachother in the playoffs, I wouldn't have to say this in the first place. DUMBSHIT.
 

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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2007, 01:37:52 AM »
Hey Nik WTF do you always argue?THere is no point in arguing especially when there is always opinons.Like they to each their own.You guys fucking kill threads by arguing over shit there is no right or wrong answer just someones fucking opinon.Now if you guys dont see eye to eye so what fuck it.Just chill homies  8)
 

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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2007, 06:42:08 AM »
O'Neal, a six-time All-Star, downplayed the trade talk in an interview with The Associated Press. "I don't think me saying I'd like to go with those teams is me saying I want to be traded," he said. ESPN.com

Indiana Pacers forward Jermaine O'Neal has discounted Internet reports that he wants to be traded to the Los Angeles Lakers. "My preference is to play here and win here,"
O'Neal said in a telephone interview after returning from Los Angeles on Monday afternoon, attempting to deflate a brewing controversy that had brought clarifying statements from Pacers president Larry Bird and O'Neal's agent, Arn Tellem. Indianapolis Star

"Larry Bird is a hard man to deal with," O'Neal was quoted as saying. "He tries to make unfair trades. He wants to gut a team, but the Lakers are trying to get over the hump. I want Indiana to benefit, but with some nice young players and draft picks. I want to make it clear that I don't want to gut a team that I come to, because then it'll be like Indiana all over again." O'Neal denied making that statement Monday when it was read to him. "Wow," he said. "I didn't say that." Indianapolis Star

O'Neal said he recognized that the Pacers are rebuilding with young players and he might not be part of future plans. "If they want to move in a different direction, I wouldn't be disgruntled about it," he said. "If I am traded, it would be seven great years I had with this team. And if I'm going to be here, I'd welcome it with open arms." ESPN.com

His agent, Arn Tellem, flatly denied the trade talk in an e-mail to the AP. "He hasn't requested a trade to the Lakers," Tellem wrote. "Any reports to the contrary are inaccurate." ESPN.com

Pacers president Larry Bird didn't rule out a trade. "In any discussions regarding him or any of our other players, the expectations for the franchise and our fans is to receive fair market value in return if a trade is to be considered," Bird said in a statement Monday. ESPN.com

"Kobe's been criticized unfairly," O'Neal said. "He's in a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situation. If he passes too much, they say he's not shooting. If he shoots, he's called selfish. He can go out and score 50 and lose, but if you don't take your shots, you're going to lose anyway. Everybody handles situations differently, and he handled the situation the best that he could. All in all, he wants to put out a team that can win. When you get into your 11th year, your body begins to wear down. You see the window of opportunity closing fast. I understand exactly what he's saying. That's what I told my team. That's why it's best for me to move on." ESPN
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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2007, 08:10:47 AM »
Odom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marion.

Just to let you know.
 

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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2007, 08:59:39 AM »
O'Neal, a six-time All-Star, downplayed the trade talk in an interview with The Associated Press. "I don't think me saying I'd like to go with those teams is me saying I want to be traded," he said. ESPN.com

Indiana Pacers forward Jermaine O'Neal has discounted Internet reports that he wants to be traded to the Los Angeles Lakers. "My preference is to play here and win here,"
O'Neal said in a telephone interview after returning from Los Angeles on Monday afternoon, attempting to deflate a brewing controversy that had brought clarifying statements from Pacers president Larry Bird and O'Neal's agent, Arn Tellem. Indianapolis Star

"Larry Bird is a hard man to deal with," O'Neal was quoted as saying. "He tries to make unfair trades. He wants to gut a team, but the Lakers are trying to get over the hump. I want Indiana to benefit, but with some nice young players and draft picks. I want to make it clear that I don't want to gut a team that I come to, because then it'll be like Indiana all over again." O'Neal denied making that statement Monday when it was read to him. "Wow," he said. "I didn't say that." Indianapolis Star

O'Neal said he recognized that the Pacers are rebuilding with young players and he might not be part of future plans. "If they want to move in a different direction, I wouldn't be disgruntled about it," he said. "If I am traded, it would be seven great years I had with this team. And if I'm going to be here, I'd welcome it with open arms." ESPN.com

His agent, Arn Tellem, flatly denied the trade talk in an e-mail to the AP. "He hasn't requested a trade to the Lakers," Tellem wrote. "Any reports to the contrary are inaccurate." ESPN.com

Pacers president Larry Bird didn't rule out a trade. "In any discussions regarding him or any of our other players, the expectations for the franchise and our fans is to receive fair market value in return if a trade is to be considered," Bird said in a statement Monday. ESPN.com

"Kobe's been criticized unfairly," O'Neal said. "He's in a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situation. If he passes too much, they say he's not shooting. If he shoots, he's called selfish. He can go out and score 50 and lose, but if you don't take your shots, you're going to lose anyway. Everybody handles situations differently, and he handled the situation the best that he could. All in all, he wants to put out a team that can win. When you get into your 11th year, your body begins to wear down. You see the window of opportunity closing fast. I understand exactly what he's saying. That's what I told my team. That's why it's best for me to move on." ESPN
that changes nothing ... it's just not to create a public feud between JO and the Pacers .. not clearly asking a trade doesn't mean he doesn"t want to move ... KG sure wanted to stay with the Wolves more than JO with the Pacers ... you know what happened ....
 

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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2007, 09:37:08 AM »
just meant to keep yall niggas posted..
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What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2007, 09:39:09 AM »
Pacers' O'Neal clarifies comments

Aug 7, 2007 12:27 AM

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Indianapolis - First, it seemed as though Jermaine O'Neal wanted to be traded to the Lakers. The Pacers forward told Sports Illustrated that he doesn't want to be part of the Pacers' "youth movement."

O'Neal said he wasn't physically ready to "go through another five to six years with a lot of losses and lot of down time."

The 28-year-old O'Neal spoke with Sports Illustrated while in Los Angeles for a charity basketball game. But back in Indianapolis Monday afternoon, he clarified his statements on the issue.

The big question: Did O'Neal tell Sports Illustrated that he wanted a trade from Indiana?

"No, I didn't tell him I wanted a trade. The article didn't say I wanted a trade. Obviously you go out west, there's been a lot of talk about me going out west, especially in LA, you get a lot of questions about that. I still stand pretty firm on what I've been saying the entire summer. I'm a Pacer right now until the Pacers decide to trade me," O'Neal said in an exclusive interview with Eyewitness Sports shortly after arriving back to Indianapolis from the west coast.

"Would I welcome a trade to LA? Yes, I would welcome a trade to LA for multiple reasons because one, I'm familiar with the area and two, I'm really familiar with Kobe Bryant. We've known each other since I was like thirteen, and three, they're not a team that's too far away."

O'Neal says he loves Los Angeles and normally trains there in the summer. If he can't play with Kobe Bryant, O'Neal says he'd like to play for New Jersey.

So if he says he likes LA, he likes Kobe and that LA and New Jersey are possibilities, where does that leave him? "One thing that you guys do when you do interviews is take a transcript of the interview. Obviously you guys want information, something to talk about, and there's been speculation about me going different places all summer and I haven't talked much about it. When there's been questions asked, you answer and sometimes they don't really write them the way you want them to write them."

Pacers President Larry Bird issued the following statement about O'Neal Monday:

"In response to Jermaine O'Neal's published comments today regarding a trade, we have stated repeatedly that if we can make our team better through a trade, we will do so. Jermaine has become an All-Star player with the Indiana Pacers and in any discussions regarding him or any of our other players, the expectations for the franchise and our fans is to receive fair market value in return if a trade is to be considered.


Jermaine has worked out very hard this summer while rehabilitating his knee after surgery. We believe under Jim O'Brien that our team as a whole and Jermaine as a player can be successful. You never know what will happen, but for now Jermaine is an Indiana Pacer."
 
 
 
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GangstaBoogy

Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2007, 01:13:34 PM »
Are you truly this retarded or can you just not fully comprehend what's being thrown at you? Tell me, man...

READ WHAT I SAY, DIPSHIT. Marion's rebounds are inflated because he is the CLEAN-UP MAN on a team that averages a much greater amount of shot attempts than the average team, hence the notion that Phoenix runs a stat-inflating sytem...If you weren't this retarded, I wouldn't have to reiterate the same shit 8 times, and we'd be on the next subject...Hell, if you watched both players play, especially against eachother in the playoffs, I wouldn't have to say this in the first place. DUMBSHIT.

Lol Marion has only been playing in the Nash system for 3 seasons so get a better excuse fag.
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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2007, 01:31:09 PM »
Jermaine O'Neal backed off from reports that he demanded a trade this weekend.

"My preference is to play here and win here," O'Neal told the Indianapolis Star on Monday, just a day after he reportedly said he'd opt out of his contract after next season if he isn't dealt to the Lakers. Team president Larry Bird issued a statement Monday stating O'Neal would only be dealt if the Pacers get "fair market value" in return. This story is quickly disentegrating into a he said-she said situation, suggesting this is far from over. Aug. 7 - 10:18 am et
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Re: JO wants to play for the Lakers
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2007, 02:43:11 PM »
wow you guys are idiots for what you wouldn't give up for JO..the wtf do you expect? LOL good God have fun with that team, should be decent, but not enough for jack shit