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Quote from: StreetsAllSalute on November 04, 2009, 06:40:42 AMQuote from: K.Dub on November 03, 2009, 03:01:29 PMI can't believe Rafa has not made the best out of players like Lucas and Babel. So much talent, wasted.And lol, you sure described many of them signings as fantastic.lol didnt actually read it then?oh and i didnt write itand leggy why is it when something is pro-rafa its biase yet we can run around saying rafa has spent 200mill with out taking into account what hes recouped,the rebuilding off a squad,the value of the current squad as opposed to the one he inherited and the uninformed/neutrals take it as gospeli wonder how much city spurs and chelsea have spent/recouped in the same period So why would you post it like you're the author. Not giving any source. Give credit where credit is due..
Quote from: K.Dub on November 03, 2009, 03:01:29 PMI can't believe Rafa has not made the best out of players like Lucas and Babel. So much talent, wasted.And lol, you sure described many of them signings as fantastic.lol didnt actually read it then?oh and i didnt write itand leggy why is it when something is pro-rafa its biase yet we can run around saying rafa has spent 200mill with out taking into account what hes recouped,the rebuilding off a squad,the value of the current squad as opposed to the one he inherited and the uninformed/neutrals take it as gospeli wonder how much city spurs and chelsea have spent/recouped in the same period
I can't believe Rafa has not made the best out of players like Lucas and Babel. So much talent, wasted.And lol, you sure described many of them signings as fantastic.
top post from Paul Jones, who wrote the Times Fanzone articles:
Quote from: K.Dub on November 04, 2009, 02:42:27 PMQuote from: StreetsAllSalute on November 04, 2009, 06:40:42 AMQuote from: K.Dub on November 03, 2009, 03:01:29 PMI can't believe Rafa has not made the best out of players like Lucas and Babel. So much talent, wasted.And lol, you sure described many of them signings as fantastic.lol didnt actually read it then?oh and i didnt write itand leggy why is it when something is pro-rafa its biase yet we can run around saying rafa has spent 200mill with out taking into account what hes recouped,the rebuilding off a squad,the value of the current squad as opposed to the one he inherited and the uninformed/neutrals take it as gospeli wonder how much city spurs and chelsea have spent/recouped in the same period So why would you post it like you're the author. Not giving any source. Give credit where credit is due.. Quotetop post from Paul Jones, who wrote the Times Fanzone articles:as i said clearly didnt read it then...top line kidda
Quote from: StreetsAllSalute on November 04, 2009, 06:40:42 AMQuote from: K.Dub on November 03, 2009, 03:01:29 PMI can't believe Rafa has not made the best out of players like Lucas and Babel. So much talent, wasted.And lol, you sure described many of them signings as fantastic.lol didnt actually read it then?oh and i didnt write itand leggy why is it when something is pro-rafa its biase yet we can run around saying rafa has spent 200mill with out taking into account what hes recouped,the rebuilding off a squad,the value of the current squad as opposed to the one he inherited and the uninformed/neutrals take it as gospeli wonder how much city spurs and chelsea have spent/recouped in the same period Pretty much blows away the theory that benitez has no money where as in fact only 3 teams have spent more than benitez and nett per season liverpool are the third highest spenders behind city and chelsea.Also since the premier league began liverpool are the thrid highest nett spending side per season and only chelsea have spent more on players than liverpool in the whole period.http://www.transferleague.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=1 Spend 04 - 09 Purchased Sold Nett Per Season 1 Manchester City £292,750,000 £71,900,000 £220,850,000 £36,808,333 2 Chelsea £267,950,000 £123,300,000 £144,650,000 £24,108,333 3 Liverpool £247,730,000 £134,080,000 £113,650,000 £18,941,667 4 Tottenham £262,000,000 £163,550,000 £98,450,000 £16,408,333 5 Aston Villa £130,200,000 £37,255,000 £92,945,000 £15,490,833 6 Sunderland £154,080,000 £67,900,000 £86,180,000 £14,363,333 9 Stoke City £39,100,000 £10,095,000 £29,005,000 £4,834,167 7 Manchester Utd £188,650,000 £161,050,000 £27,600,000 £4,600,000 8 Everton £102,100,500 £78,200,000 £23,900,500 £3,983,417 18 West Ham £94,145,000 £7125,000 £22,820,000 £3,803,333 15 Hull £22,415,000 £2,975,000 £19,440,000 £3,240,000 10 Fulham £59,925,000 £40,725,000 £19,200,000 £3,200,000 12 Birmingham City £60,800,000 £41,825,000 £18,975,000 £3,162,500 11 Bolton £42,400,000 £26,300,000 £16,100,000 £2,683,333 13 Wolves £22,075,000 £15,575,000 £6,500,000 £1,083,333 14 Burnley £10,505,000 £8,625,000 £1,880,000 £313,333 15 Blackburn Rovers £49,052,000 £57,290,000 -£8,238,000 -£1,373,000 16 Wigan £57,850,000 £66,250,000 -£8,400,000 -£1,400,000 17 Portsmouth £92,200,000 £107,240,000 -£15,040,000 -£2,506,667 18 Arsenal £112,050,000 £138,320,000 -£26,270,000 -£4,378,333 Newcastle £120,750,000 £106,400,000 £14,350,000 £2,391,667 Middlesbrough £62,200,000 £54,500,000 £7,700,000 £1,283,333 Leeds United £5,900,000 £13,050,000 -£7,150,000 -£1,191,667 Since the premiership startedNet Spend 92 - 2010 Purchased Sold Nett Per Season 1 Chelsea £558,190,000 £191,875,000 £366,315,000 £20,350,833 2 Manchester City £396,110,000 £102,553,000 £293,557,000 £16,308,722 3 Liverpool £415,355,000 £209,720,000 £205,635,000 £11,424,167 4 Tottenham £379,850,000 £202,017,500 £177,832,500 £9,879,583 5 Aston Villa £253,240,000 £108,225,000 £145,015,000 £8,056,389 6 Manchester United £410,350,000 £275,565,000 £134,785,000 £7,488,056 7 Sunderland £226,265,000 £108,730,000 £117,535,000 £6,529,722 9 Fulham £121,281,000 £42,895,000 £78,386,000 £4,354,778 8 Birmingham City £117,020,000 £58,575,000 £58,445,000 £3,246,944 15 Everton £216,745,500 £161,270,000 £55,475,500 £3,081,972 10 Arsenal £269,940,000 £237,574,000 £32,366,000 £1,798,111 11 Wolves £70,419,000 £38,245,000 £32,174,000 £1,787,444 12 Stoke City £45,890,000 £21,030,000 £24,860,000 £1,381,111 13 Hull £23,970,000 £4,480,000 £19,490,000 £1,082,778 14 Bolton £75,720,000 £64,770,000 £10,950,000 £608,333 15 Burnley £18,400,000 £11,670,000 £6,730,000 £373,889 16 Blackburn Rovers £177,602,000 £172,335,000 £5,267,000 £292,611 17 Wigan £70,865,000 £70,392,500 £472,500 £26,250 18 Portsmouth £115,100,000 £127,425,000 -£12,325,000 -£684,722 19 West Ham £167,582,000 £182,982,000 -£15,400,000 -£855,556 Middlesbrough £179,285,000 £108,770,000 £70,515,000 £3,917,500 Newcastle £304,195,000 £198,225,000 £105,970,000 £5,887,222 Leeds United £145,780,000 £141,345,000 £4,435,000 £246,389
Quote from: KURUPTION-81 on November 07, 2009, 07:48:56 AMQuote from: StreetsAllSalute on November 04, 2009, 06:40:42 AMQuote from: K.Dub on November 03, 2009, 03:01:29 PMI can't believe Rafa has not made the best out of players like Lucas and Babel. So much talent, wasted.And lol, you sure described many of them signings as fantastic.lol didnt actually read it then?oh and i didnt write itand leggy why is it when something is pro-rafa its biase yet we can run around saying rafa has spent 200mill with out taking into account what hes recouped,the rebuilding off a squad,the value of the current squad as opposed to the one he inherited and the uninformed/neutrals take it as gospeli wonder how much city spurs and chelsea have spent/recouped in the same period Pretty much blows away the theory that benitez has no money where as in fact only 3 teams have spent more than benitez and nett per season liverpool are the third highest spenders behind city and chelsea.Also since the premier league began liverpool are the thrid highest nett spending side per season and only chelsea have spent more on players than liverpool in the whole period.http://www.transferleague.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=1 Spend 04 - 09 Purchased Sold Nett Per Season 1 Manchester City £292,750,000 £71,900,000 £220,850,000 £36,808,333 2 Chelsea £267,950,000 £123,300,000 £144,650,000 £24,108,333 3 Liverpool £247,730,000 £134,080,000 £113,650,000 £18,941,667 4 Tottenham £262,000,000 £163,550,000 £98,450,000 £16,408,333 5 Aston Villa £130,200,000 £37,255,000 £92,945,000 £15,490,833 6 Sunderland £154,080,000 £67,900,000 £86,180,000 £14,363,333 9 Stoke City £39,100,000 £10,095,000 £29,005,000 £4,834,167 7 Manchester Utd £188,650,000 £161,050,000 £27,600,000 £4,600,000 8 Everton £102,100,500 £78,200,000 £23,900,500 £3,983,417 18 West Ham £94,145,000 £7125,000 £22,820,000 £3,803,333 15 Hull £22,415,000 £2,975,000 £19,440,000 £3,240,000 10 Fulham £59,925,000 £40,725,000 £19,200,000 £3,200,000 12 Birmingham City £60,800,000 £41,825,000 £18,975,000 £3,162,500 11 Bolton £42,400,000 £26,300,000 £16,100,000 £2,683,333 13 Wolves £22,075,000 £15,575,000 £6,500,000 £1,083,333 14 Burnley £10,505,000 £8,625,000 £1,880,000 £313,333 15 Blackburn Rovers £49,052,000 £57,290,000 -£8,238,000 -£1,373,000 16 Wigan £57,850,000 £66,250,000 -£8,400,000 -£1,400,000 17 Portsmouth £92,200,000 £107,240,000 -£15,040,000 -£2,506,667 18 Arsenal £112,050,000 £138,320,000 -£26,270,000 -£4,378,333 Newcastle £120,750,000 £106,400,000 £14,350,000 £2,391,667 Middlesbrough £62,200,000 £54,500,000 £7,700,000 £1,283,333 Leeds United £5,900,000 £13,050,000 -£7,150,000 -£1,191,667 Since the premiership startedNet Spend 92 - 2010 Purchased Sold Nett Per Season 1 Chelsea £558,190,000 £191,875,000 £366,315,000 £20,350,833 2 Manchester City £396,110,000 £102,553,000 £293,557,000 £16,308,722 3 Liverpool £415,355,000 £209,720,000 £205,635,000 £11,424,167 4 Tottenham £379,850,000 £202,017,500 £177,832,500 £9,879,583 5 Aston Villa £253,240,000 £108,225,000 £145,015,000 £8,056,389 6 Manchester United £410,350,000 £275,565,000 £134,785,000 £7,488,056 7 Sunderland £226,265,000 £108,730,000 £117,535,000 £6,529,722 9 Fulham £121,281,000 £42,895,000 £78,386,000 £4,354,778 8 Birmingham City £117,020,000 £58,575,000 £58,445,000 £3,246,944 15 Everton £216,745,500 £161,270,000 £55,475,500 £3,081,972 10 Arsenal £269,940,000 £237,574,000 £32,366,000 £1,798,111 11 Wolves £70,419,000 £38,245,000 £32,174,000 £1,787,444 12 Stoke City £45,890,000 £21,030,000 £24,860,000 £1,381,111 13 Hull £23,970,000 £4,480,000 £19,490,000 £1,082,778 14 Bolton £75,720,000 £64,770,000 £10,950,000 £608,333 15 Burnley £18,400,000 £11,670,000 £6,730,000 £373,889 16 Blackburn Rovers £177,602,000 £172,335,000 £5,267,000 £292,611 17 Wigan £70,865,000 £70,392,500 £472,500 £26,250 18 Portsmouth £115,100,000 £127,425,000 -£12,325,000 -£684,722 19 West Ham £167,582,000 £182,982,000 -£15,400,000 -£855,556 Middlesbrough £179,285,000 £108,770,000 £70,515,000 £3,917,500 Newcastle £304,195,000 £198,225,000 £105,970,000 £5,887,222 Leeds United £145,780,000 £141,345,000 £4,435,000 £246,389 im not arguing with united fans about football anymoretheres a reason they support utd after all
Quote from: StreetsAllSalute on November 07, 2009, 08:43:54 AMQuote from: KURUPTION-81 on November 07, 2009, 07:48:56 AMQuote from: StreetsAllSalute on November 04, 2009, 06:40:42 AMQuote from: K.Dub on November 03, 2009, 03:01:29 PMI can't believe Rafa has not made the best out of players like Lucas and Babel. So much talent, wasted.And lol, you sure described many of them signings as fantastic.lol didnt actually read it then?oh and i didnt write itand leggy why is it when something is pro-rafa its biase yet we can run around saying rafa has spent 200mill with out taking into account what hes recouped,the rebuilding off a squad,the value of the current squad as opposed to the one he inherited and the uninformed/neutrals take it as gospeli wonder how much city spurs and chelsea have spent/recouped in the same period Pretty much blows away the theory that benitez has no money where as in fact only 3 teams have spent more than benitez and nett per season liverpool are the third highest spenders behind city and chelsea.Also since the premier league began liverpool are the thrid highest nett spending side per season and only chelsea have spent more on players than liverpool in the whole period.http://www.transferleague.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=1 Spend 04 - 09 Purchased Sold Nett Per Season 1 Manchester City £292,750,000 £71,900,000 £220,850,000 £36,808,333 2 Chelsea £267,950,000 £123,300,000 £144,650,000 £24,108,333 3 Liverpool £247,730,000 £134,080,000 £113,650,000 £18,941,667 4 Tottenham £262,000,000 £163,550,000 £98,450,000 £16,408,333 5 Aston Villa £130,200,000 £37,255,000 £92,945,000 £15,490,833 6 Sunderland £154,080,000 £67,900,000 £86,180,000 £14,363,333 9 Stoke City £39,100,000 £10,095,000 £29,005,000 £4,834,167 7 Manchester Utd £188,650,000 £161,050,000 £27,600,000 £4,600,000 8 Everton £102,100,500 £78,200,000 £23,900,500 £3,983,417 18 West Ham £94,145,000 £7125,000 £22,820,000 £3,803,333 15 Hull £22,415,000 £2,975,000 £19,440,000 £3,240,000 10 Fulham £59,925,000 £40,725,000 £19,200,000 £3,200,000 12 Birmingham City £60,800,000 £41,825,000 £18,975,000 £3,162,500 11 Bolton £42,400,000 £26,300,000 £16,100,000 £2,683,333 13 Wolves £22,075,000 £15,575,000 £6,500,000 £1,083,333 14 Burnley £10,505,000 £8,625,000 £1,880,000 £313,333 15 Blackburn Rovers £49,052,000 £57,290,000 -£8,238,000 -£1,373,000 16 Wigan £57,850,000 £66,250,000 -£8,400,000 -£1,400,000 17 Portsmouth £92,200,000 £107,240,000 -£15,040,000 -£2,506,667 18 Arsenal £112,050,000 £138,320,000 -£26,270,000 -£4,378,333 Newcastle £120,750,000 £106,400,000 £14,350,000 £2,391,667 Middlesbrough £62,200,000 £54,500,000 £7,700,000 £1,283,333 Leeds United £5,900,000 £13,050,000 -£7,150,000 -£1,191,667 Since the premiership startedNet Spend 92 - 2010 Purchased Sold Nett Per Season 1 Chelsea £558,190,000 £191,875,000 £366,315,000 £20,350,833 2 Manchester City £396,110,000 £102,553,000 £293,557,000 £16,308,722 3 Liverpool £415,355,000 £209,720,000 £205,635,000 £11,424,167 4 Tottenham £379,850,000 £202,017,500 £177,832,500 £9,879,583 5 Aston Villa £253,240,000 £108,225,000 £145,015,000 £8,056,389 6 Manchester United £410,350,000 £275,565,000 £134,785,000 £7,488,056 7 Sunderland £226,265,000 £108,730,000 £117,535,000 £6,529,722 9 Fulham £121,281,000 £42,895,000 £78,386,000 £4,354,778 8 Birmingham City £117,020,000 £58,575,000 £58,445,000 £3,246,944 15 Everton £216,745,500 £161,270,000 £55,475,500 £3,081,972 10 Arsenal £269,940,000 £237,574,000 £32,366,000 £1,798,111 11 Wolves £70,419,000 £38,245,000 £32,174,000 £1,787,444 12 Stoke City £45,890,000 £21,030,000 £24,860,000 £1,381,111 13 Hull £23,970,000 £4,480,000 £19,490,000 £1,082,778 14 Bolton £75,720,000 £64,770,000 £10,950,000 £608,333 15 Burnley £18,400,000 £11,670,000 £6,730,000 £373,889 16 Blackburn Rovers £177,602,000 £172,335,000 £5,267,000 £292,611 17 Wigan £70,865,000 £70,392,500 £472,500 £26,250 18 Portsmouth £115,100,000 £127,425,000 -£12,325,000 -£684,722 19 West Ham £167,582,000 £182,982,000 -£15,400,000 -£855,556 Middlesbrough £179,285,000 £108,770,000 £70,515,000 £3,917,500 Newcastle £304,195,000 £198,225,000 £105,970,000 £5,887,222 Leeds United £145,780,000 £141,345,000 £4,435,000 £246,389 im not arguing with united fans about football anymoretheres a reason they support utd after all No argument here mate, just putting the "facts" out there, its difficult to argue when the "facts" dont suit your argument.
Not too optimistic about tmw, defensivly we are looking shambolic and if ferguson doesnt start with carrick, anderson and fletcher i can see us getting over run.
Quote from: KURUPTION-81 on November 07, 2009, 08:50:12 AMQuote from: StreetsAllSalute on November 07, 2009, 08:43:54 AMQuote from: KURUPTION-81 on November 07, 2009, 07:48:56 AMQuote from: StreetsAllSalute on November 04, 2009, 06:40:42 AMQuote from: K.Dub on November 03, 2009, 03:01:29 PMI can't believe Rafa has not made the best out of players like Lucas and Babel. So much talent, wasted.And lol, you sure described many of them signings as fantastic.lol didnt actually read it then?oh and i didnt write itand leggy why is it when something is pro-rafa its biase yet we can run around saying rafa has spent 200mill with out taking into account what hes recouped,the rebuilding off a squad,the value of the current squad as opposed to the one he inherited and the uninformed/neutrals take it as gospeli wonder how much city spurs and chelsea have spent/recouped in the same period Pretty much blows away the theory that benitez has no money where as in fact only 3 teams have spent more than benitez and nett per season liverpool are the third highest spenders behind city and chelsea.Also since the premier league began liverpool are the thrid highest nett spending side per season and only chelsea have spent more on players than liverpool in the whole period.http://www.transferleague.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=1 Spend 04 - 09 Purchased Sold Nett Per Season 1 Manchester City £292,750,000 £71,900,000 £220,850,000 £36,808,333 2 Chelsea £267,950,000 £123,300,000 £144,650,000 £24,108,333 3 Liverpool £247,730,000 £134,080,000 £113,650,000 £18,941,667 4 Tottenham £262,000,000 £163,550,000 £98,450,000 £16,408,333 5 Aston Villa £130,200,000 £37,255,000 £92,945,000 £15,490,833 6 Sunderland £154,080,000 £67,900,000 £86,180,000 £14,363,333 9 Stoke City £39,100,000 £10,095,000 £29,005,000 £4,834,167 7 Manchester Utd £188,650,000 £161,050,000 £27,600,000 £4,600,000 8 Everton £102,100,500 £78,200,000 £23,900,500 £3,983,417 18 West Ham £94,145,000 £7125,000 £22,820,000 £3,803,333 15 Hull £22,415,000 £2,975,000 £19,440,000 £3,240,000 10 Fulham £59,925,000 £40,725,000 £19,200,000 £3,200,000 12 Birmingham City £60,800,000 £41,825,000 £18,975,000 £3,162,500 11 Bolton £42,400,000 £26,300,000 £16,100,000 £2,683,333 13 Wolves £22,075,000 £15,575,000 £6,500,000 £1,083,333 14 Burnley £10,505,000 £8,625,000 £1,880,000 £313,333 15 Blackburn Rovers £49,052,000 £57,290,000 -£8,238,000 -£1,373,000 16 Wigan £57,850,000 £66,250,000 -£8,400,000 -£1,400,000 17 Portsmouth £92,200,000 £107,240,000 -£15,040,000 -£2,506,667 18 Arsenal £112,050,000 £138,320,000 -£26,270,000 -£4,378,333 Newcastle £120,750,000 £106,400,000 £14,350,000 £2,391,667 Middlesbrough £62,200,000 £54,500,000 £7,700,000 £1,283,333 Leeds United £5,900,000 £13,050,000 -£7,150,000 -£1,191,667 Since the premiership startedNet Spend 92 - 2010 Purchased Sold Nett Per Season 1 Chelsea £558,190,000 £191,875,000 £366,315,000 £20,350,833 2 Manchester City £396,110,000 £102,553,000 £293,557,000 £16,308,722 3 Liverpool £415,355,000 £209,720,000 £205,635,000 £11,424,167 4 Tottenham £379,850,000 £202,017,500 £177,832,500 £9,879,583 5 Aston Villa £253,240,000 £108,225,000 £145,015,000 £8,056,389 6 Manchester United £410,350,000 £275,565,000 £134,785,000 £7,488,056 7 Sunderland £226,265,000 £108,730,000 £117,535,000 £6,529,722 9 Fulham £121,281,000 £42,895,000 £78,386,000 £4,354,778 8 Birmingham City £117,020,000 £58,575,000 £58,445,000 £3,246,944 15 Everton £216,745,500 £161,270,000 £55,475,500 £3,081,972 10 Arsenal £269,940,000 £237,574,000 £32,366,000 £1,798,111 11 Wolves £70,419,000 £38,245,000 £32,174,000 £1,787,444 12 Stoke City £45,890,000 £21,030,000 £24,860,000 £1,381,111 13 Hull £23,970,000 £4,480,000 £19,490,000 £1,082,778 14 Bolton £75,720,000 £64,770,000 £10,950,000 £608,333 15 Burnley £18,400,000 £11,670,000 £6,730,000 £373,889 16 Blackburn Rovers £177,602,000 £172,335,000 £5,267,000 £292,611 17 Wigan £70,865,000 £70,392,500 £472,500 £26,250 18 Portsmouth £115,100,000 £127,425,000 -£12,325,000 -£684,722 19 West Ham £167,582,000 £182,982,000 -£15,400,000 -£855,556 Middlesbrough £179,285,000 £108,770,000 £70,515,000 £3,917,500 Newcastle £304,195,000 £198,225,000 £105,970,000 £5,887,222 Leeds United £145,780,000 £141,345,000 £4,435,000 £246,389 im not arguing with united fans about football anymoretheres a reason they support utd after all No argument here mate, just putting the "facts" out there, its difficult to argue when the "facts" dont suit your argument.the facts do support my arguement i said benitez hasnt wasted money and is a top manager look at our net spend the last 3 seasons is that really what a title contending side needs to be spending?plus our average under benitez is actually 16mill as broken down in the facts i posted lol
Quote from: KURUPTION-81 on November 07, 2009, 08:52:34 AMNot too optimistic about tmw, defensivly we are looking shambolic and if ferguson doesnt start with carrick, anderson and fletcher i can see us getting over run.My thoughts exactly, but whenever I say we are going to win, we never do. Hopefully my negativeness will lead to a win instead. I just hope Scholes doesn't start. I don't think he's cut out for these type of games anymore. He should be saved for European matches where the pace is slower and for the lesser teams in the league.
if ferguson doesnt start with carrick, anderson and fletcher i can see us getting over run.
Fucking Chelsea....5 points behind vs 7 points behind last year,, it can still happen