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As I said, I never criticised the wingers (Lennon, Modric, Krancjar) or the strikers (all great players). You mention your defence and defend them by saying theyre 5th best in the league. I've not once said your team is poor. But you've proved my point in saying that. IS 5th in the top 4? Of course not. I think at the moment you're looking at an obvious top 3 of Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea (in wahtever order, I couldnt care less really - I'm a Newcastle supporter born and raised in newcastle just to level the playin field so you know where I'm coming from). 4th is obviously up fro grabs and Spurs are in the mix for it...but from my point of view I see Villa and yourself as similar and then Man City and Liverpool aswell. There's 4 teams. Liverpool, if they get it together can challenge still. And Man City are getting stronger with each game. And btw, don't ever say you don't know what you're on about to me. Its a forum, this is opinion, and I'm a lifelong football supporter and season ticket holder so I'd appreciate that you join in the debate with intelligence rather than throwing out vague insults.
Quote from: 13th Duke on January 19, 2010, 08:55:54 AMAs I said, I never criticised the wingers (Lennon, Modric, Krancjar) or the strikers (all great players). You mention your defence and defend them by saying theyre 5th best in the league. I've not once said your team is poor. But you've proved my point in saying that. IS 5th in the top 4? Of course not. I think at the moment you're looking at an obvious top 3 of Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea (in wahtever order, I couldnt care less really - I'm a Newcastle supporter born and raised in newcastle just to level the playin field so you know where I'm coming from). 4th is obviously up fro grabs and Spurs are in the mix for it...but from my point of view I see Villa and yourself as similar and then Man City and Liverpool aswell. There's 4 teams. Liverpool, if they get it together can challenge still. And Man City are getting stronger with each game. And btw, don't ever say you don't know what you're on about to me. Its a forum, this is opinion, and I'm a lifelong football supporter and season ticket holder so I'd appreciate that you join in the debate with intelligence rather than throwing out vague insults.yeh i said we were 5th best defensively so far.. but there is only 5 goals between 5th & 1st with only Man U & Chelsea being top 4 sides above us, the other two clubs are villa & birmingham.. i still view that as being pretty solid defensively. i wont argue about the sides chasing for 4th. but i still think its only spurs and city that has the squad depth to deal with any injuries.+ if your catching feelings about me saying you dont know what you on about then thats stupid, it wasnt a direct insult.. i never know you were an english poster, so thats why i questioned your knowledge... but i know your a NC fan now, so its all good.
Quote from: JMan on January 19, 2010, 10:52:52 AMQuote from: 13th Duke on January 19, 2010, 08:55:54 AMAs I said, I never criticised the wingers (Lennon, Modric, Krancjar) or the strikers (all great players). You mention your defence and defend them by saying theyre 5th best in the league. I've not once said your team is poor. But you've proved my point in saying that. IS 5th in the top 4? Of course not. I think at the moment you're looking at an obvious top 3 of Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea (in wahtever order, I couldnt care less really - I'm a Newcastle supporter born and raised in newcastle just to level the playin field so you know where I'm coming from). 4th is obviously up fro grabs and Spurs are in the mix for it...but from my point of view I see Villa and yourself as similar and then Man City and Liverpool aswell. There's 4 teams. Liverpool, if they get it together can challenge still. And Man City are getting stronger with each game. And btw, don't ever say you don't know what you're on about to me. Its a forum, this is opinion, and I'm a lifelong football supporter and season ticket holder so I'd appreciate that you join in the debate with intelligence rather than throwing out vague insults.yeh i said we were 5th best defensively so far.. but there is only 5 goals between 5th & 1st with only Man U & Chelsea being top 4 sides above us, the other two clubs are villa & birmingham.. i still view that as being pretty solid defensively. i wont argue about the sides chasing for 4th. but i still think its only spurs and city that has the squad depth to deal with any injuries.+ if your catching feelings about me saying you dont know what you on about then thats stupid, it wasnt a direct insult.. i never know you were an english poster, so thats why i questioned your knowledge... but i know your a NC fan now, so its all good. not catching feelings mate, sorry we've got off on the wrong foot. No hard feelings at all. Spurs to be honest have surprised me this season. Youve done much better than I thought you could do so you never know, maybe I've underestimated you. I just think in the long run the moneyboys at City will just win through. Also, you can never count out Liverpool....massive clubs like that never go down without a fight. Villa I think will bottle it like last season.
Quote from: 13th Duke on January 20, 2010, 10:46:21 AMQuote from: JMan on January 19, 2010, 10:52:52 AMQuote from: 13th Duke on January 19, 2010, 08:55:54 AMAs I said, I never criticised the wingers (Lennon, Modric, Krancjar) or the strikers (all great players). You mention your defence and defend them by saying theyre 5th best in the league. I've not once said your team is poor. But you've proved my point in saying that. IS 5th in the top 4? Of course not. I think at the moment you're looking at an obvious top 3 of Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea (in wahtever order, I couldnt care less really - I'm a Newcastle supporter born and raised in newcastle just to level the playin field so you know where I'm coming from). 4th is obviously up fro grabs and Spurs are in the mix for it...but from my point of view I see Villa and yourself as similar and then Man City and Liverpool aswell. There's 4 teams. Liverpool, if they get it together can challenge still. And Man City are getting stronger with each game. And btw, don't ever say you don't know what you're on about to me. Its a forum, this is opinion, and I'm a lifelong football supporter and season ticket holder so I'd appreciate that you join in the debate with intelligence rather than throwing out vague insults.yeh i said we were 5th best defensively so far.. but there is only 5 goals between 5th & 1st with only Man U & Chelsea being top 4 sides above us, the other two clubs are villa & birmingham.. i still view that as being pretty solid defensively. i wont argue about the sides chasing for 4th. but i still think its only spurs and city that has the squad depth to deal with any injuries.+ if your catching feelings about me saying you dont know what you on about then thats stupid, it wasnt a direct insult.. i never know you were an english poster, so thats why i questioned your knowledge... but i know your a NC fan now, so its all good. not catching feelings mate, sorry we've got off on the wrong foot. No hard feelings at all. Spurs to be honest have surprised me this season. Youve done much better than I thought you could do so you never know, maybe I've underestimated you. I just think in the long run the moneyboys at City will just win through. Also, you can never count out Liverpool....massive clubs like that never go down without a fight. Villa I think will bottle it like last season.its cool man... in a way your right about spurs anyway tonight being a prime example losing to liverpool when there missing two massive players in gerrard n torres, i didnt get to watch the game because i play football on wednesday nights but im glad i missed it. I duno if villa will bottle it quiet as hard as last season, they made it through to the carling cup final tonight, so you never know if they win that could give a massive confidence boost for the rest of the season. Either way i just dont want to see Man City win anything this season, i hate the way they got such big expectations just because they got a blank cheaque book..You think Newcastle are gonna gain that automatic promotion spot then?
Quote from: JMan on January 20, 2010, 04:00:43 PMQuote from: 13th Duke on January 20, 2010, 10:46:21 AMQuote from: JMan on January 19, 2010, 10:52:52 AMQuote from: 13th Duke on January 19, 2010, 08:55:54 AMAs I said, I never criticised the wingers (Lennon, Modric, Krancjar) or the strikers (all great players). You mention your defence and defend them by saying theyre 5th best in the league. I've not once said your team is poor. But you've proved my point in saying that. IS 5th in the top 4? Of course not. I think at the moment you're looking at an obvious top 3 of Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea (in wahtever order, I couldnt care less really - I'm a Newcastle supporter born and raised in newcastle just to level the playin field so you know where I'm coming from). 4th is obviously up fro grabs and Spurs are in the mix for it...but from my point of view I see Villa and yourself as similar and then Man City and Liverpool aswell. There's 4 teams. Liverpool, if they get it together can challenge still. And Man City are getting stronger with each game. And btw, don't ever say you don't know what you're on about to me. Its a forum, this is opinion, and I'm a lifelong football supporter and season ticket holder so I'd appreciate that you join in the debate with intelligence rather than throwing out vague insults.yeh i said we were 5th best defensively so far.. but there is only 5 goals between 5th & 1st with only Man U & Chelsea being top 4 sides above us, the other two clubs are villa & birmingham.. i still view that as being pretty solid defensively. i wont argue about the sides chasing for 4th. but i still think its only spurs and city that has the squad depth to deal with any injuries.+ if your catching feelings about me saying you dont know what you on about then thats stupid, it wasnt a direct insult.. i never know you were an english poster, so thats why i questioned your knowledge... but i know your a NC fan now, so its all good. not catching feelings mate, sorry we've got off on the wrong foot. No hard feelings at all. Spurs to be honest have surprised me this season. Youve done much better than I thought you could do so you never know, maybe I've underestimated you. I just think in the long run the moneyboys at City will just win through. Also, you can never count out Liverpool....massive clubs like that never go down without a fight. Villa I think will bottle it like last season.its cool man... in a way your right about spurs anyway tonight being a prime example losing to liverpool when there missing two massive players in gerrard n torres, i didnt get to watch the game because i play football on wednesday nights but im glad i missed it. I duno if villa will bottle it quiet as hard as last season, they made it through to the carling cup final tonight, so you never know if they win that could give a massive confidence boost for the rest of the season. Either way i just dont want to see Man City win anything this season, i hate the way they got such big expectations just because they got a blank cheaque book..You think Newcastle are gonna gain that automatic promotion spot then?I actually have a horrible feeling that Liverpool will still retain top 4. They seem to have turned a corner. I'd rather ANY of the ther teams get 4th though.I'm not worried about Newcastle THIS SEASON. We're by far the best team in the Championship and without sounding too cocky I think we'll have a top 2 berth wrapped up by April. I would be surprised if we didn't finish 1st. HOWEVER, this isnt because we're great its because the Championship is very poor. Newcastle and West Brom are head and shoulders above the rest and even the current form of Forest will eventually die dwn and they'll take thier place in the playoffs.Its next season I'm worried about. If we go up to the Premiership with this squad we have right now we'd struggle to stay up. Some massive changes need to happen right now. For startes we don't even have a striker who can score 6/7 Premiership goals nevermind lead the team with 10-15. This summer will be massive in deciding our future.I wish I watched the Villa game tonight. 6-4! Sounds like a classic.
Quote from: 13th Duke on January 20, 2010, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: JMan on January 20, 2010, 04:00:43 PMQuote from: 13th Duke on January 20, 2010, 10:46:21 AMQuote from: JMan on January 19, 2010, 10:52:52 AMQuote from: 13th Duke on January 19, 2010, 08:55:54 AMAs I said, I never criticised the wingers (Lennon, Modric, Krancjar) or the strikers (all great players). You mention your defence and defend them by saying theyre 5th best in the league. I've not once said your team is poor. But you've proved my point in saying that. IS 5th in the top 4? Of course not. I think at the moment you're looking at an obvious top 3 of Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea (in wahtever order, I couldnt care less really - I'm a Newcastle supporter born and raised in newcastle just to level the playin field so you know where I'm coming from). 4th is obviously up fro grabs and Spurs are in the mix for it...but from my point of view I see Villa and yourself as similar and then Man City and Liverpool aswell. There's 4 teams. Liverpool, if they get it together can challenge still. And Man City are getting stronger with each game. And btw, don't ever say you don't know what you're on about to me. Its a forum, this is opinion, and I'm a lifelong football supporter and season ticket holder so I'd appreciate that you join in the debate with intelligence rather than throwing out vague insults.yeh i said we were 5th best defensively so far.. but there is only 5 goals between 5th & 1st with only Man U & Chelsea being top 4 sides above us, the other two clubs are villa & birmingham.. i still view that as being pretty solid defensively. i wont argue about the sides chasing for 4th. but i still think its only spurs and city that has the squad depth to deal with any injuries.+ if your catching feelings about me saying you dont know what you on about then thats stupid, it wasnt a direct insult.. i never know you were an english poster, so thats why i questioned your knowledge... but i know your a NC fan now, so its all good. not catching feelings mate, sorry we've got off on the wrong foot. No hard feelings at all. Spurs to be honest have surprised me this season. Youve done much better than I thought you could do so you never know, maybe I've underestimated you. I just think in the long run the moneyboys at City will just win through. Also, you can never count out Liverpool....massive clubs like that never go down without a fight. Villa I think will bottle it like last season.its cool man... in a way your right about spurs anyway tonight being a prime example losing to liverpool when there missing two massive players in gerrard n torres, i didnt get to watch the game because i play football on wednesday nights but im glad i missed it. I duno if villa will bottle it quiet as hard as last season, they made it through to the carling cup final tonight, so you never know if they win that could give a massive confidence boost for the rest of the season. Either way i just dont want to see Man City win anything this season, i hate the way they got such big expectations just because they got a blank cheaque book..You think Newcastle are gonna gain that automatic promotion spot then?I actually have a horrible feeling that Liverpool will still retain top 4. They seem to have turned a corner. I'd rather ANY of the ther teams get 4th though.I'm not worried about Newcastle THIS SEASON. We're by far the best team in the Championship and without sounding too cocky I think we'll have a top 2 berth wrapped up by April. I would be surprised if we didn't finish 1st. HOWEVER, this isnt because we're great its because the Championship is very poor. Newcastle and West Brom are head and shoulders above the rest and even the current form of Forest will eventually die dwn and they'll take thier place in the playoffs.Its next season I'm worried about. If we go up to the Premiership with this squad we have right now we'd struggle to stay up. Some massive changes need to happen right now. For startes we don't even have a striker who can score 6/7 Premiership goals nevermind lead the team with 10-15. This summer will be massive in deciding our future.I wish I watched the Villa game tonight. 6-4! Sounds like a classic.How the hell have Liverpool turned the corner? They've just lost to Reading and drew with Stoke. If thats turning the corner, United must be on fire right now.
did anyone watch the Villa vs Blackburn game yesterday? cracking match.
Quote from: es-jay on January 21, 2010, 02:40:20 PMdid anyone watch the Villa vs Blackburn game yesterday? cracking match. yeah I caught the second half. Brilliant stuff. Would have probably been even better if Samba wasnt sent off and Blackburn might have had a chance. Great game though.