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A Double Standard Worth Keeping:Race and the Differential Power of the "N-Word"
boycriedwolf619:
I refer to Black people as Black or just people. This whole thing of taken the word back is bullshit; Its just an excuse to stay ignorant.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: boycriedwolf619 on September 20, 2007, 01:03:38 PM ---I refer to Black people as Black or just people. This whole thing of taken the word back is bullshit; Its just an excuse to stay ignorant.
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You already know my position. There is nothing to take back and in 1000 years there won't be much to discuss because no one will care. I understand why the mass idiot public gets offended by certain words. They need something to numb real thoughts. But why would someone like you who stands above the times even care what he is referred to by people? Who cares if people that don't know you prejudge you or want to be rude and call you something as an insult. I've been called a lot of things by a lot of people and the only time it really offends me is when someone I know, like, and respect insults me with the intent to insult. If it's someone I don't know, barely know, or don't care for I could care less what they "say" to or about me.
boycriedwolf619:
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 20, 2007, 01:28:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: boycriedwolf619 on September 20, 2007, 01:03:38 PM ---I refer to Black people as Black or just people. This whole thing of taken the word back is bullshit; Its just an excuse to stay ignorant.
--- End quote ---
You already know my position. There is nothing to take back and in 1000 years there won't be much to discuss because no one will care. I understand why the mass idiot public gets offended by certain words. They need something to numb real thoughts. But why would someone like you who stands above the times even care what he is referred to by people? Who cares if people that don't know you prejudge you or want to be rude and call you something as an insult. I've been called a lot of things by a lot of people and the only time it really offends me is when someone I know, like, and respect insults me with the intent to insult. If it's someone I don't know, barely know, or don't care for I could care less what they "say" to or about me.
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I don't know man if you can't see there something wrong with a person who voluntarily says "I'm from Africa, so call me a nigga"- I don't know what to tell you man. I have a problem with it because when a Black person thinks like that, they obviously have no respect for themselves or their ancestors who fought to make change. When you don't have respect for yourself, no one else isn't going to have respect for you. And thats exactly whats going on a majority of the mass have no respect for Blacks.
virtuoso:
I think if you want to live in a free and fair society you must not agree with criminalising racist behaviour. Physical violence inflicted upon someone because you do not like that race is one thing because obviously you are inflicting pain, however to say what can and can't be said is stifling freedom of speech. If I want to call you every racial slur under the sun then that should be my right and likewise if you wanted to do the same, then likewise. Of course you will find it offensive and likewise I find it offensive being white myself when racial slurs are used but collectively as a society it's much more damaging to tell someone that this word is unacceptable. I know of cases in America in which a white woman has been arrested and jailed for calling a black man a "nigger" I mean this is ridiculous. By the way i personally think carrying prejudices against someone because of their race is pathetic and dumb but as soon as we create laws which state what you can and can't say to any given individual we are on a slippery slope because this can be expanded. This is the reason why these "hate laws" are so dangerous because hate can be defined in so many ways and incorporate endless amounts of groups. So basically I don't agree with the double standard and I don't agree with racist bastards but as long as they are not bringing it to violence then c'est la vie, you can't castigate thought crime on the one hand but defend race laws on the other, now that is the true hypocrisy I object to.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: boycriedwolf619 on September 20, 2007, 01:42:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 20, 2007, 01:28:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: boycriedwolf619 on September 20, 2007, 01:03:38 PM ---I refer to Black people as Black or just people. This whole thing of taken the word back is bullshit; Its just an excuse to stay ignorant.
--- End quote ---
You already know my position. There is nothing to take back and in 1000 years there won't be much to discuss because no one will care. I understand why the mass idiot public gets offended by certain words. They need something to numb real thoughts. But why would someone like you who stands above the times even care what he is referred to by people? Who cares if people that don't know you prejudge you or want to be rude and call you something as an insult. I've been called a lot of things by a lot of people and the only time it really offends me is when someone I know, like, and respect insults me with the intent to insult. If it's someone I don't know, barely know, or don't care for I could care less what they "say" to or about me.
--- End quote ---
I don't know man if you can't see there something wrong with a person who voluntarily says "I'm from Africa, so call me a nigga"- I don't know what to tell you man. I have a problem with it because when a Black person thinks like that, they obviously have no respect for themselves or their ancestors who fought to make change. When you don't have respect for yourself, no one else isn't going to have respect for you. And thats exactly whats going on a majority of the mass have no respect for Blacks.
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I know plenty of blacks from plenty of different parts of the world and only the ones that come from an American point of view even knew the word existed. All of my black friends as a kid that were born and partly raised in Jamaica, Nigeria, Trinidad, or Kenya didn't even know the word "Nigger". This guy that had no problem with it probably has no history with it. It's an American word mispronounced by hick americans. It was in reference to a very small percentage of blacks. I know you might say that it was meant for all blacks every where, but the people that said it couldn't even pronounce the word negro. I don't think they even knew Africa existed.
I remember a story by Oprah when she visted Nelson Mandella and the guard at the door only knew about American tradition from TV and rap videos. When he greeted them he said "Wassup Niggaz" thinking that's how American blacks greet each other. He said it once or twice more before one of Oprah's people corrected him. This was a black man that lived through the apartheid. His idea of racism is a lot more real than the vast majority of blacks in the USA and he had no clue what the word meant. It had no history to him and it was not anything, much less an insult.
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