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A Double Standard Worth Keeping:Race and the Differential Power of the "N-Word"
Shallow:
--- Quote from: boycriedwolf619 on September 17, 2007, 10:40:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on September 17, 2007, 09:45:39 PM ---The only power any word has is in it's reaction. If the word was accepted universally by blacks as the English word to refer to blacks it wouldn't have any power. The word nigger would be as normal as asian. Negro was the scientific word derived from the latin word meaning black (not the Greek word meaning death. There is no real connection), and nigger just came out because stupid ass southern americans can't pronounce words to save their lives. Went from negro to nigra, to naygar, to nigger or whatever. Before the civil rights era it wasn't even an insult to many (maybe most) black people.
I'm Greek, the word Greek derived from the slave trading culture of the Roman empire who after they captured and enslaved Greeks needed something to call them. They picked Greco, and it stuck, and it was used to insult a lot of the time. 99% of Greeks have no idea they refer to themselves as a once derogatory word, even though they have never and will never ever say the word "greek" while speaking the greek language, because the word doesn't exist in greek. The only way to take power from a word is not react to it. Don't teach it to your children as a powerful word and eventually through generations the word will mean nothing. Sticks and stones.
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I do agree but you have to admit that, the pain and history of the word "nigger" cuts way more deep than "Greco". Anyways I do agree with your statement peace
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I never said otherwise. My point was that it wouldn't have cut deep at all if it was never complained about in the first place. In the USA it was "hey look at that naygar hung up and that tree there uh hyuk". In Ancient Rome it was "hey look how fast that lion swallowed up that christian greco" (as well as many other slaves from other parts of the world Rome conquered, but christianity was adopted largely by Greek early on). Now the Roman Empire is gone and it was thousands of years ago so the whole thing seems insignificant but 1000 years from now when a new empire is ruling and a different set of people are the oppressed that went through torture what happened in the US in the 1700s and 1800s, and the word nigger, won't mean a damn thing to anybody.
Don Rizzle:
one that really gets me is paki, the pc brigade says were not alowed to use that word because it is offensive. But i really don't understand what is offensive about it its short for pakistani, just like aussie is short for australian, by censoring the word, they are in effect saying being from pakistan is something to be ashamed of.
I had an interesting conversation about this with my nigerian friend and he basically said fuck all the race shit you call a person what they are he is from pakistan so he is a paki I am from africa so call me nigga I won't get upset. My other black friends say they don't mind either, however I still don't use the word nigga because it is not natural to me, although paki is, but we are told we shouldn't use it anymore. If anything it is the white mans self consorship leads people to find these words offensive....
boycriedwolf619:
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on September 20, 2007, 08:00:52 AM ---one that really gets me is paki, the pc brigade says were not alowed to use that word because it is offensive. But i really don't understand what is offensive about it its short for pakistani, just like aussie is short for australian, by censoring the word, they are in effect saying being from pakistan is something to be ashamed of.
I had an interesting conversation about this with my nigerian friend and he basically said fuck all the race shit you call a person what they are he is from pakistan so he is a paki I am from africa so call me nigga I won't get upset. My other black friends say they don't mind either, however I still don't use the word nigga because it is not natural to me, although paki is, but we are told we shouldn't use it anymore. If anything it is the white mans self consorship leads people to find these words offensive....
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Thats a shame. That guy needs to get Knowledge of Self. Thats the most ridiculous thing I've heard. "Im from Africa, so call me a nigga"- get the fuck out of here with that slave mentality bullshit
Fuck Your Existence:
--- Quote from: boycriedwolf619 on September 20, 2007, 08:59:37 AM ---Thats a shame. That guy needs to get Knowledge of Self. Thats the most ridiculous thing I've heard. "Im from Africa, so call me a nigga"- get the fuck out of here with that slave mentality bullshit
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lol,word
Shallow:
--- Quote from: boycriedwolf619 on September 20, 2007, 08:59:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on September 20, 2007, 08:00:52 AM ---one that really gets me is paki, the pc brigade says were not alowed to use that word because it is offensive. But i really don't understand what is offensive about it its short for pakistani, just like aussie is short for australian, by censoring the word, they are in effect saying being from pakistan is something to be ashamed of.
I had an interesting conversation about this with my nigerian friend and he basically said fuck all the race shit you call a person what they are he is from pakistan so he is a paki I am from africa so call me nigga I won't get upset. My other black friends say they don't mind either, however I still don't use the word nigga because it is not natural to me, although paki is, but we are told we shouldn't use it anymore. If anything it is the white mans self consorship leads people to find these words offensive....
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Thats a shame. That guy needs to get Knowledge of Self. Thats the most ridiculous thing I've heard. "Im from Africa, so call me a nigga"- get the fuck out of here with that slave mentality bullshit
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How do you refer to black people?
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