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Re: After DJ'n for a while.......
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2007, 12:22:11 PM »
you have good points and I think a lot of DJs feel the same. Now my question for you is, what do you think can be done to change this current issue of westcoast music not getting that much love in the clubs?

1) Should the artist switch to a faster tempo i.e dance records with catchy hooks and less few word play?
2) Force that laid back westcoast sound back on the radio so the power of the radio can influence the clubs? [point to note: In the south, their records get broken in the  clubs before they even make it to the radio]
3) Should westcoast artist artist give in and accept the new form of music and forget the laid back shit and just do club records or wait till the south gets played out?
4) Should they just start a movement by smashing clubs that don't play 50% westcoast music? By enforcing this notion in clubs and radio, gives the PD and DJ no other choice but to play 50% westcoast music. If they don't, they get beat up lol?

This my Opinion; I think the Bay lost for not having a follow up or at least a strong movement off the hype of 40's tell me when to go.  The song was a smaaaaaaaash hit but in reality people just thought it was just another lil jon hit record and not so much of a movement from the Bay. They had the look and it seemed like everyone was behind it but i guess the "ghost ride whip" was a major blow to the movement. Mistah FAB was a good follow up for the movement but once the industry hater block started on the video, then boom the movement is shifted back to the south.

The way to sum this is all is [and this is for the djs] NOPE. You cant do shit.........each region gets its 5-10 years shine and then it gets taken away when people get tired of it. SIMPLE, THERE IS REALLY NO SOLUTION TO THIS MATTER, JUST OBSERVE AND LET IT RIDE OUT. :-\
I agree with you about the Bay losing by not having a follow-up, but a lot of it was their own fault and timing. Keak has too many different albums coming out instead of one good album to push, and The Pack didn't make a real album, Mistah F.A.B.'s major got pushed back, Clyde Carson got pushed back. These all have mainstream appeal but they didn't get the push behind them they needed to blow. Also, a lot of Bay rappers fell into the mold that they had to be hyphy and say all the same shit..I can't even count the number of songs where the hook is something like "Pop pills, shake my dreads, go dumb" etc., etc.
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Re: After DJ'n for a while.......
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2007, 12:42:57 PM »
Dope thread R-Tistic. I'm supposed to be doing a few DJ sets in clubs around my way. A couple of my friends started suggesting I began doing some sets because they're aware that I'm up on most of the new Hip-Hop "club bangers" (not a big fan of that term...haha) and have written for several Rap outlets. As a West Coast head myself, I know that if this were to pan out and I started DJing here and there, I'd want to play some new West Coast rap.

This brings me to my query. What kind of response do the - RELATIVELY - current West Coast bangers get? By that, I mean the tracks clearly designed for that sort of dance environment. Off top, I'm thinking of tracks like:

"Get Low" by Tyrese f/ Too $hort, Kurupt & Snoop
"Doin' That" by Clyde Carson f/ Sean Kingston
"New West Anthem" by Crooked I
"Feel On It" by Bishop
"Weekend" by Daz
"Fandango" by Quik
"Let's Ride" by Game
The Fixxers stuff, etc.

I normally decide if I'd playlist it through the opinion of a friend of mine, who's more of a 'casual' rap listener. If he likes it, I consider it a safe assumption that most others would. From the list above, "Get Low" and "New West Anthem" appealed to him, but others that I'm feeling from that list would get responses like, "I like it, but i don't have the desire to really listen to it again..." or "It just didn't grab me."

Definitely seems difficult, because I've played songs to him that I thought he would really dig - Westurn Union's "I Don't Think So" springs to mind - and his reaction has been very much, "Eh...whatever." I guess I have more of a West Coast bias than the man on the street, so it could be that I'm automatically feeling these songs a little bit more.
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Re: After DJ'n for a while.......
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2007, 02:33:41 PM »
i know this is kinda off topic but damn E-40 just ripped that track +1 on the hook
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Re: After DJ'n for a while.......
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2007, 04:41:08 AM »
Hey R-Tistic, some great points on there but i DEFINITELY wanna give you some props on not sleeping on JAG! We've been supporting him since the drop and to finally see people picking up on him is fantastic - especially spinning his records - i know he is gonna wanna thank you also so keep it up!

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Re: After DJ'n for a while.......
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2007, 09:49:35 AM »
Dope thread R-Tistic. I'm supposed to be doing a few DJ sets in clubs around my way. A couple of my friends started suggesting I began doing some sets because they're aware that I'm up on most of the new Hip-Hop "club bangers" (not a big fan of that term...haha) and have written for several Rap outlets. As a West Coast head myself, I know that if this were to pan out and I started DJing here and there, I'd want to play some new West Coast rap.

This brings me to my query. What kind of response do the - RELATIVELY - current West Coast bangers get? By that, I mean the tracks clearly designed for that sort of dance environment. Off top, I'm thinking of tracks like:

"Get Low" by Tyrese f/ Too $hort, Kurupt & Snoop
"Doin' That" by Clyde Carson f/ Sean Kingston
"New West Anthem" by Crooked I
"Feel On It" by Bishop
"Weekend" by Daz
"Fandango" by Quik
"Let's Ride" by Game
The Fixxers stuff, etc.

I normally decide if I'd playlist it through the opinion of a friend of mine, who's more of a 'casual' rap listener. If he likes it, I consider it a safe assumption that most others would. From the list above, "Get Low" and "New West Anthem" appealed to him, but others that I'm feeling from that list would get responses like, "I like it, but i don't have the desire to really listen to it again..." or "It just didn't grab me."

Definitely seems difficult, because I've played songs to him that I thought he would really dig - Westurn Union's "I Don't Think So" springs to mind - and his reaction has been very much, "Eh...whatever." I guess I have more of a West Coast bias than the man on the street, so it could be that I'm automatically feeling these songs a little bit more.

Hmm....as for those songs, I would only drop The Fixxers durin "prime time", and it would most likely have to be a West Coast only party. Game's song never really made it to the clubs here...but they still play "One blood", which I thought would never stand a chance at the club...but it's seen as more of an East Coast styled anthem versus a true club track that you dance with females to. "Get low" blends good with "In da club" and "Freeze remix" from LL because the drums are the same on all of the tracks, but I don't think I'd drop it at prime time unless I was around people that were familiar with it. Fandango got a bit of reaction on the West, but I'd only drop it around West Coasters as well. I feel that "Doin that" could easily get played out here, along with G. Malone's "Certified", because they have a down south style to them...but they aren't familiar with those tracks yet. I think "Feel on it" may be a warm up track on the West Coast at best...I don't really see it breakin through down here at all.

It does take a while to realize what songs will go hard for people who don't have a West Coast ear. I've been back and forth from L.A. to Florida since 2002, and I feel that if I had really tried to become a DJ 3-4 years ago, it wouldn't have worked, because my ear was still too biased for the West Coast. When I was a freshman, I really thought everyone around the country had the same taste, but that they were exposed to different music...and I thought they'd like anything we liked...but when I played them the 1998-2002 era West Coast, most of them seemed to hate it...and they had songs that I saw videos for on BET that I thought sucked azz, but they would love those songs...so it took me a long time just to realize what makes people out here move. Some songs have what it takes to become hits, but if they don't get the right push, then people won't want to hear it. Some songs have a sound to where people love it the first time they hear it...but that's not as common.

One thing about the south, or at least in Florida, is that many songs just don't get old. There are about 15-20 songs that you could play at ANY party and they'd react to it like it just came out last month as the #1 single...but they'll be 4-6 years old, and most likely it's something that nobody outside of Florida has ever heard. It makes it easier to DJ on one hand, but it gets very predictable and repetitive, especially if you don't care much for the songs.

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Re: After DJ'n for a while.......
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2007, 12:52:00 PM »
Right so you're a victim in other words lol... just kidding

it's all i good i hear ya just maybe try to make remixes! Remix the shit that people like with some other westcoast track i don't know it's you the Dj if you really are the left coast's advocate i guess you'll find a way otherwise your viewpoint of the "system" is null & void to me.

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Re: After DJ'n for a while.......
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2007, 05:16:29 PM »
Quote from: Mygla
fuck autoplay.
You are quite right ; i hate autoplay too :)

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