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Quote from: prominent on October 19, 2007, 08:32:16 AMWhat a lot of shit, he's simply just trying to sell a couple more records by giving the album a controversial title. I don't believe there's any deep meaning behind it at all.Then you haven't been paying attention.
What a lot of shit, he's simply just trying to sell a couple more records by giving the album a controversial title. I don't believe there's any deep meaning behind it at all.
Quote from: Jrome Is Officially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on October 19, 2007, 06:18:09 PMQuote from: prominent on October 19, 2007, 08:32:16 AMWhat a lot of shit, he's simply just trying to sell a couple more records by giving the album a controversial title. I don't believe there's any deep meaning behind it at all.Then you haven't been paying attention.I think he could be right. I see the album filled with more Nas bullshit propaganda and hating. Just Nas pretending to be smarter than he really is offering up simple solutions to complex problems that play to the lowest common denominator. I could be wrong.
Great idea. Give white people the freedom to say "man I love that Nigger album".
"what album are you looking for sir?""NIGGER!"
Quote from: Shallow on October 19, 2007, 11:47:12 PMQuote from: Jrome Is Officially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on October 19, 2007, 06:18:09 PMQuote from: prominent on October 19, 2007, 08:32:16 AMWhat a lot of shit, he's simply just trying to sell a couple more records by giving the album a controversial title. I don't believe there's any deep meaning behind it at all.Then you haven't been paying attention.I think he could be right. I see the album filled with more Nas bullshit propaganda and hating. Just Nas pretending to be smarter than he really is offering up simple solutions to complex problems that play to the lowest common denominator. I could be wrong.You are.
Quote from: Jrome Is Officially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on October 20, 2007, 12:42:14 AMQuote from: Shallow on October 19, 2007, 11:47:12 PMQuote from: Jrome Is Officially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on October 19, 2007, 06:18:09 PMQuote from: prominent on October 19, 2007, 08:32:16 AMWhat a lot of shit, he's simply just trying to sell a couple more records by giving the album a controversial title. I don't believe there's any deep meaning behind it at all.Then you haven't been paying attention.I think he could be right. I see the album filled with more Nas bullshit propaganda and hating. Just Nas pretending to be smarter than he really is offering up simple solutions to complex problems that play to the lowest common denominator. I could be wrong.You are.word, i wouldnt play much attention to shallows opinions on nas, we already know shallow doesnt know how to grasp his intelligence...maybe if he was white, he'd be a huge fan...yo shallow i need to know something...you think its cool for people everywhere to go arouns saying "nigga" after all the history the words hold upon it?....i'm sorry but people should enough intelligence for themselves as to kno wwhat to say and what not to say...not just with a word...but sentences and so on..and not just nigger, many different sayings...im sure ppl of little intelligence will never understand but people who have a good mind should be able to understand the difference between what one should say and not say without needing to have such overblown debates about it. i know you are a cat of decent intelligence so im pretty sure you undestand what i am saying....and i agree that black people (im black by the way) partly have themselves to blame for how the word is used today...BUT that is not the only problem with the word....it is how it was first used....people need not worry about using the word nigga and need to learn more about acting with some RESPECT...biggest problem with black people is the role models, nuttin else....we have amazing musicians, amazing producers, amazing talkers, people of great intelligence and people who are and have been great leaders....and whilse you may disagree because what i said can be argued as subjective, i think most people who can get beyond skin colour and appreciate talent and greatness whether it or does not relate to them can agree with what i am saying....however who do black cats look up 2?not the rappers who be talking and teaching in their music....but no name rappers with bitches all flying in the background....say you what u want about nas, but nas is a great artist...he will deserve his spot as one of greatest of all times....but do lil "niggaz" wanna be like him....nah....they rather be slingin crack with nasty ass hoes who be fuckin there best friend too....real talkback on topic....nas is very very smart with using this as his title....and yes some of it is marketing and getting people to talk...but thats just part of the genius because everyone wants people to talk....if u want deperation for marketing and music...look no further than your boy eminem....but as with hiphop is head and this....his getting people to talk about shit that requires thought rather than nuttin.....and if anyone thinks naming his album "nigga" will help his sales need a slap....because many people who cop will not feel comfortable copping an album whos title is "nigga".....infact i would change the name for the sake of sales....and i'd be suprised if his album is allowed to stay as "nigger" but either way....props to naspz
Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on October 20, 2007, 07:38:49 AMQuote from: Jrome Is Officially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on October 20, 2007, 12:42:14 AMQuote from: Shallow on October 19, 2007, 11:47:12 PMQuote from: Jrome Is Officially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on October 19, 2007, 06:18:09 PMQuote from: prominent on October 19, 2007, 08:32:16 AMWhat a lot of shit, he's simply just trying to sell a couple more records by giving the album a controversial title. I don't believe there's any deep meaning behind it at all.Then you haven't been paying attention.I think he could be right. I see the album filled with more Nas bullshit propaganda and hating. Just Nas pretending to be smarter than he really is offering up simple solutions to complex problems that play to the lowest common denominator. I could be wrong.You are.word, i wouldnt play much attention to shallows opinions on nas, we already know shallow doesnt know how to grasp his intelligence...maybe if he was white, he'd be a huge fan...yo shallow i need to know something...you think its cool for people everywhere to go arouns saying "nigga" after all the history the words hold upon it?....i'm sorry but people should enough intelligence for themselves as to kno wwhat to say and what not to say...not just with a word...but sentences and so on..and not just nigger, many different sayings...im sure ppl of little intelligence will never understand but people who have a good mind should be able to understand the difference between what one should say and not say without needing to have such overblown debates about it. i know you are a cat of decent intelligence so im pretty sure you undestand what i am saying....and i agree that black people (im black by the way) partly have themselves to blame for how the word is used today...BUT that is not the only problem with the word....it is how it was first used....people need not worry about using the word nigga and need to learn more about acting with some RESPECT...biggest problem with black people is the role models, nuttin else....we have amazing musicians, amazing producers, amazing talkers, people of great intelligence and people who are and have been great leaders....and whilse you may disagree because what i said can be argued as subjective, i think most people who can get beyond skin colour and appreciate talent and greatness whether it or does not relate to them can agree with what i am saying....however who do black cats look up 2?not the rappers who be talking and teaching in their music....but no name rappers with bitches all flying in the background....say you what u want about nas, but nas is a great artist...he will deserve his spot as one of greatest of all times....but do lil "niggaz" wanna be like him....nah....they rather be slingin crack with nasty ass hoes who be fuckin there best friend too....real talkback on topic....nas is very very smart with using this as his title....and yes some of it is marketing and getting people to talk...but thats just part of the genius because everyone wants people to talk....if u want deperation for marketing and music...look no further than your boy eminem....but as with hiphop is head and this....his getting people to talk about shit that requires thought rather than nuttin.....and if anyone thinks naming his album "nigga" will help his sales need a slap....because many people who cop will not feel comfortable copping an album whos title is "nigga".....infact i would change the name for the sake of sales....and i'd be suprised if his album is allowed to stay as "nigger" but either way....props to naspzI never use the word. I think it's stupid to use it, black or white. It's an insulting word no matter how you slice it. I just realize that the power is in the reaction. If black people didn't jump up and down every time some white guy said something racist then racism would play out in the mainstream. The Don Imus issue was defended mostly by people that enjoy getting under other people's skin. They like to get a reaction. Take away that reaction and you'll defeat them. Going back to Imus; the reaction by idiots like Al Sharpton just made him more popular. He got out of his contract, got a bag of money, and now he's restarting his career more popular than ever. If no one said a damn thing then no one would have known about what he said, he would have stayed on the air with shitty ratings for a bit longer and then he'd drift away.As for Nas, I think he's a great rapper. If I had to choose between his 7 or 8 albums or Eminem's 5 albums I'd take Nas's. But his words suck, just like Eminem's. There is too much drivel in between. I mean take a look at his guest spot on Puffy's Forever album. Beanie gets a nice cameo and that get's followed by Nas's first line "The Bible has words that Christ wrote, Evil men sacrifice goats". It just seems silly to me. Like I said, Em isn't any better. When I was talking of Nas's pseudo intellect I was speaking with regards to I Know I Can and that song hating on Tiger Woods from Street Disciple. Those songs were tedious and not as smart as they wanted to be.If I want to hear good words I'll put on Thunder Road by Bruce Springsteen open the lyric booklet and enjoy. Enjoy a level of lyricism, poetry, and passion that Nas, (or Em) cannot reach. If I want to hear witty lyrics that make me go "hey that sounds cool" I'll put on Nas.
Quote from: Shallow on October 20, 2007, 11:28:51 AMQuote from: LyRiCaL_G on October 20, 2007, 07:38:49 AMQuote from: Jrome Is Officially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on October 20, 2007, 12:42:14 AMQuote from: Shallow on October 19, 2007, 11:47:12 PMQuote from: Jrome Is Officially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on October 19, 2007, 06:18:09 PMQuote from: prominent on October 19, 2007, 08:32:16 AMWhat a lot of shit, he's simply just trying to sell a couple more records by giving the album a controversial title. I don't believe there's any deep meaning behind it at all.Then you haven't been paying attention.I think he could be right. I see the album filled with more Nas bullshit propaganda and hating. Just Nas pretending to be smarter than he really is offering up simple solutions to complex problems that play to the lowest common denominator. I could be wrong.You are.word, i wouldnt play much attention to shallows opinions on nas, we already know shallow doesnt know how to grasp his intelligence...maybe if he was white, he'd be a huge fan...yo shallow i need to know something...you think its cool for people everywhere to go arouns saying "nigga" after all the history the words hold upon it?....i'm sorry but people should enough intelligence for themselves as to kno wwhat to say and what not to say...not just with a word...but sentences and so on..and not just nigger, many different sayings...im sure ppl of little intelligence will never understand but people who have a good mind should be able to understand the difference between what one should say and not say without needing to have such overblown debates about it. i know you are a cat of decent intelligence so im pretty sure you undestand what i am saying....and i agree that black people (im black by the way) partly have themselves to blame for how the word is used today...BUT that is not the only problem with the word....it is how it was first used....people need not worry about using the word nigga and need to learn more about acting with some RESPECT...biggest problem with black people is the role models, nuttin else....we have amazing musicians, amazing producers, amazing talkers, people of great intelligence and people who are and have been great leaders....and whilse you may disagree because what i said can be argued as subjective, i think most people who can get beyond skin colour and appreciate talent and greatness whether it or does not relate to them can agree with what i am saying....however who do black cats look up 2?not the rappers who be talking and teaching in their music....but no name rappers with bitches all flying in the background....say you what u want about nas, but nas is a great artist...he will deserve his spot as one of greatest of all times....but do lil "niggaz" wanna be like him....nah....they rather be slingin crack with nasty ass hoes who be fuckin there best friend too....real talkback on topic....nas is very very smart with using this as his title....and yes some of it is marketing and getting people to talk...but thats just part of the genius because everyone wants people to talk....if u want deperation for marketing and music...look no further than your boy eminem....but as with hiphop is head and this....his getting people to talk about shit that requires thought rather than nuttin.....and if anyone thinks naming his album "nigga" will help his sales need a slap....because many people who cop will not feel comfortable copping an album whos title is "nigga".....infact i would change the name for the sake of sales....and i'd be suprised if his album is allowed to stay as "nigger" but either way....props to naspzI never use the word. I think it's stupid to use it, black or white. It's an insulting word no matter how you slice it. I just realize that the power is in the reaction. If black people didn't jump up and down every time some white guy said something racist then racism would play out in the mainstream. The Don Imus issue was defended mostly by people that enjoy getting under other people's skin. They like to get a reaction. Take away that reaction and you'll defeat them. Going back to Imus; the reaction by idiots like Al Sharpton just made him more popular. He got out of his contract, got a bag of money, and now he's restarting his career more popular than ever. If no one said a damn thing then no one would have known about what he said, he would have stayed on the air with shitty ratings for a bit longer and then he'd drift away.As for Nas, I think he's a great rapper. If I had to choose between his 7 or 8 albums or Eminem's 5 albums I'd take Nas's. But his words suck, just like Eminem's. There is too much drivel in between. I mean take a look at his guest spot on Puffy's Forever album. Beanie gets a nice cameo and that get's followed by Nas's first line "The Bible has words that Christ wrote, Evil men sacrifice goats". It just seems silly to me. Like I said, Em isn't any better. When I was talking of Nas's pseudo intellect I was speaking with regards to I Know I Can and that song hating on Tiger Woods from Street Disciple. Those songs were tedious and not as smart as they wanted to be.If I want to hear good words I'll put on Thunder Road by Bruce Springsteen open the lyric booklet and enjoy. Enjoy a level of lyricism, poetry, and passion that Nas, (or Em) cannot reach. If I want to hear witty lyrics that make me go "hey that sounds cool" I'll put on Nas.It seems like a lot your beefs with more "conscious" rappers are when they speak on religion. Nas isn't flawless by any means, but note that picking apart versus from the Esco era is picking from his worst time creatively. Besides, I'd pick apart "Oochie Wally", you don't have to dig as hard.And what do you mean that those songs aren't as smart as they wanted to be? "I Can" was a sing songy moral / history / positivity lesson for black kids. You think it should have been "smarter"? He released the fuckin song as a single while everybody else is slangin rocks. Releasing that song was a hell of an accomplishment in my opinion. I honestly don't understand your critique at all."American Way" from Streets Disciple:Rap guys get bank and think they messiahs, but they liarsVote fo who now? You're red, white and blue?I'm American too, but I ain't with the president's crewWhat you peddlin' and who you peddlin' to?You ain't got the ghetto with youTry'na lead my sheep to the slaughterhouseTalkin 'bout +Rap the Vote+, you ain't thought aboutThe black vote mean nathan, who you gonna electSatan or Satan? In the hood nothin is changin, uhWe ain't got no choices who to chooseTen-years ago they were tryin to stop our voicesAnd end Hip-Hop, they some hypocritesCondoleeza Rice - I don't really get this chickTell her if she ever really cared about poor schoolsAbout poor children, then she gotta prove that sheain't just another coon Uncle Tom foolLike these MC's, gotta give 'em the rulesLie to the youth, Uncle Tom you confusedMight as well give the Hip-Hop community a nooseNeed a truce with the gangs and some food for the hungryOn Kerry nuts, he look at you like a monkeyYou MC's on that old slavery pathThe Bushs'll look at yo' ass and laughSee, it's all about community, let's help ourselvesCops brutalize us get dealt with with shellsIt's our turn, it's 'bout time we winNeed somebody as the hood as my councilman, uhhis man leans in, his boys laughingNow I'm the spokesperson for Black men, this always happensSays, "Since all Black women care about is who got doughAnd all we do is call them either bitch or a Black hoe"I say first brotha you ain't gotta be that coldSince you ignorant, I'ma show you how the facts goThe biggest example in scandal of historyWere Monica Lewinksy or Donald Trump's pimping spreeMost woman who love Jeevanji of GucciAre pretentious non-Black groupies or flooziesBut who are we to blame, not the damesIt's a man-made game, in essence our woman the sameBeautiful creatures, Black girls birthed the earthSo they deserve to earn man's purseMatter fact, I'm about to go shopping with my dimeCatch you cowards the next time, the next rhyme, uhI don't care about the runawaysI don't care about who's gayI don't care about dying of AIDSBut I care if I got paidWho even cares about the president?I think they're making a mistakeI don't care about the hurricaneAs long as my family's safeI don't care about the candidatesThey burnt this country to bitsYeah I think about this everyday, that's the American WayShould this song have been smarter? Is he being pseudo-intellectual? If anything, he's not being pretentious trying to use terminology to sheerly impress people. He's more concerned with getting his message across.And lastly, when he makes a crack at Tiger Woods for cooning, you take issue with that? Did you even listen to the song or just focus on him dissing Tiger because most white people deem him an acceptable negro? I don't think you remotely understand the song.
^^^^See that article? That is proof right there about what Nas is trying to do. He's not playing Sharpton / Jackson's game. He got fuckin Method Man to mention Darfur, saying that there's a real fuckin problem and yet these self annointed black leaders are camera whoring about what Nas is naming his album!This is great, can't fuckin wait to hear this album.
^what took you so long to admit that you don't like hiphop? wasn't so hard now was it.
Quote from: 7even is the next Iwan Karamasow on October 21, 2007, 02:57:29 PM^what took you so long to admit that you don't like hiphop? wasn't so hard now was it.Seriously man, take some more english courses. Maybe some logic courses too.
Quote from: Shallow on October 21, 2007, 02:59:38 PMQuote from: 7even is the next Iwan Karamasow on October 21, 2007, 02:57:29 PM^what took you so long to admit that you don't like hiphop? wasn't so hard now was it.Seriously man, take some more english courses. Maybe some logic courses too.still in denial, fatso?were you not the one who said "I blame society for hiphop, not hiphop for society"...