Ice Cube- King Of The West after Raw Footage?

[AnybodyKilla]

I dont know man, Cube is up there though, WAYYY up there lol, no1 can fuck with him really. But does any1 have info on Raw Footage, and whats the 1st song off it?

Did you check out Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It?

Nah man i didnt lol, can u up it?

[Lunatic]

Nah man i didnt lol, can u up it?

http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2007/october/ice_cube-gangsta_rap_made_me_do_it-(dubcnn).mp3

[d-nice]

if you want to break it down in very general terms... Cube is to the West Coast what Nas is to the East... Snoop is to the West what Jay-Z is to the East.

Cube is raw like Nas when it comes to conscious, political gangsta shit... sure they have a few radio-friendly joints, but not to the extent of Snoop & Jay... while Snoop & Jay have a ton more radio-friendly joints that have made them more appealing to the mainstream audiences over the years... and that doesn't include Snoop & Jay's guest appearances on R&B as well as other mainstream rapper's joints over the years...  which further shows the distinction between Cube/Snoop & Nas/Jay in terms of star quality.

Man +1 on that homie, that is on point. To take your point even further, although Snoop takes alot of slack for doing radio friendly tracks, Nas and Cube have taken alot of flack for tracks that are like that, but when they do it properly, it has great results. (You Owe Me and We Be Clubbin)

[d-nice]

True. The funny thing is, I am not even counting his earlier work. Just his guest appearances, LNCL and whatever Raw Footage has to offer. Musically speaking if and I think it will he can top LNCL, I gotta give him the edge. People can talk that movie shit if they want to, but like Cube said on Dr. Frankenstein, And when I want to butter the toast/can't nobody see Ice Cube on no coast.

i think u gotta count his earlier work 2 give him the edge
yea fuck the movie shit, that don't deny nor take way music quality

I mean just off of most current work. You have to give the edge to Snoop the past couple of years just on the strength of him dropping consistent material. Yeah he got a couple duds here and there but for the most part he has been numero uno. I'm saying just off of recent work. Even with Game 2 albums deep, I consider him up there also.

well, let's come back to this thread after Raw Footage & Ego Trippin' drop... that way we can start @ 2006 since LNCL was Cube's 1st album since 2000... in which case i'd have to say that LNCL is a stellar album considering the 6 year lay off.

LNCL > TBCT
RF ?? Ego Trippin'

I agree, but I am thinking Snoop's new one is going to be R&G pt 2 for some reason. Cube I think is going to raise the bar a little bit and say some things to stir up some controversy on this next one. But most def we will see come 2008.

Cube is coming out at the perfect time too... he'll probably pick up where Nas leaves off on "Nigger"... since there is so much to touch on in terms of current events with the whole Michael Richards/Imus/Jena 6/Noose hangings, etc... and i'm all for it too... i hope the recent events lights a fire under Cube's ass and has him reverting back to his AMW, Death Certificate era... and i ain't gonna be mad at him for it either... 

Yeah I have been waiting for that from Cube for a minute. We Be Clubbin was kind of a gift and a curse for him. The success of the track opened up a new audience with the strength of having a huge club banger, but since then he has gotten away from the more political tracks. But Cube IMO can do it all. Even his radio friendly singles have a hardcore edge to them.

[d-nice]

if you want to break it down in very general terms... Cube is to the West Coast what Nas is to the East... Snoop is to the West what Jay-Z is to the East.

Cube is raw like Nas when it comes to conscious, political gangsta shit... sure they have a few radio-friendly joints, but not to the extent of Snoop & Jay... while Snoop & Jay have a ton more radio-friendly joints that have made them more appealing to the mainstream audiences over the years... and that doesn't include Snoop & Jay's guest appearances on R&B as well as other mainstream rapper's joints over the years...  which further shows the distinction between Cube/Snoop & Nas/Jay in terms of star quality.

Man +1 on that homie, that is on point. To take your point even further, although Snoop takes alot of slack for doing radio friendly tracks, Nas and Cube have taken alot of flack for tracks that are like that, but when they do it properly, it has great results. (You Owe Me and We Be Clubbin)

i agree man... it looks out of context in sort of a "sell out" way for Cube & Nas to be doing radio-friendly joints... not to say that all radio joints are bad... those 2 tracks you listed are nice... but in actuality, i respect the rawness of Cube & Nas... yet i equally respect Snoop & Jay for what they do too... because Snoop & Jay are good at what they do, so kudos to them.

Yeah Cube and Nas are like poets or revolutionaries on the mic. Jay and Snoop are more like pimps, slick talking but got the vocab. Both can get lyrical when they have to. I got the opportunity to see Cube and Nas perform live and I was speechless from all the classic they got and reciting them.

[GangstaBoogy]

if you want to break it down in very general terms... Cube is to the West Coast what Nas is to the East... Snoop is to the West what Jay-Z is to the East.

Yeah thats a good way of putting it.

[messi19]

Daamn, shit's bout to get heavy.

Nas - Nigger
Cube - Raw Footage
Face - MADE
Game - The D.O.C.


And Honorable Mentions:

Snoop Dogg - Ego Trippin' - Sounds like it might be another R&G album
Dr. Dre - Detox - Whenever he decides to drop it
Crooked I - B.O.S.S. - Whenever it drops
Jay Rock - Follow Me Home - Same as Crooked I
Glasses Malone - Beach Cruiser - Same as Crooked I
Bishop Lamont - Same as Crooked I

and many more.

Now if we only could get more and more music from these artists instead of niggas like Soulja Boy, Lil Boosie and them i would be glad. But it's still all good though.

[Snoopafly-1986]

Snoop will forever be the King of the West everybody knows who he is he could drop a shit album and still go platinum

[dammaged7]

Snoop will forever be the King of the West everybody knows who he is he could drop a shit album and still go platinum

that dont make it a classic.!!!!!!!!!
snoop could make an album of him taking a crap, it wud go platiunum, that dont make it a classic.
Gangsta rap was a good way for alot of people in USA to express themselves back in the day of NWA etc. ice cube still spits truth and on the social bullshit of society and politics aswell as hood shit and real shit.  i dont wanna hear a song of how snoop and akon want to fuck some girl. I dont want that, i DO that.
cubes albumss are like a story wth 18-20 chapters. no one can touch him.

[Snoopafly-1986]

Snoop will forever be the King of the West everybody knows who he is he could drop a shit album and still go platinum

that dont make it a classic.!!!!!!!!!
snoop could make an album of him taking a crap, it wud go platiunum, that dont make it a classic.
Gangsta rap was a good way for alot of people in USA to express themselves back in the day of NWA etc. ice cube still spits truth and on the social bullshit of society and politics aswell as hood shit and real shit.  i dont wanna hear a song of how snoop and akon want to fuck some girl. I dont want that, i DO that.
cubes albumss are like a story wth 18-20 chapters. no one can touch him.

yeah but what makes a king? the popular vote

[Iliveinthefuture]

cube went gold independently while snoop didn't even go platinum with 5 videos and massive promo
give it up for the real king of the west 

[Snoopafly-1986]

cube went gold independently while snoop didn't even go platinum with 5 videos and massive promo
give it up for the real king of the west 

Snoop went platinum man and he went gold like in 2,3 weeks lol

[Lunatic]

if you want to break it down in very general terms... Cube is to the West Coast what Nas is to the East... Snoop is to the West what Jay-Z is to the East.

Cube is raw like Nas when it comes to conscious, political gangsta shit... sure they have a few radio-friendly joints, but not to the extent of Snoop & Jay... while Snoop & Jay have a ton more radio-friendly joints that have made them more appealing to the mainstream audiences over the years... and that doesn't include Snoop & Jay's guest appearances on R&B as well as other mainstream rapper's joints over the years...  which further shows the distinction between Cube/Snoop & Nas/Jay in terms of star quality.

+1
wow never thought of it like that
now that u mentioned it i'd say that is a very realistic comparison

[d-nice]

if you want to break it down in very general terms... Cube is to the West Coast what Nas is to the East... Snoop is to the West what Jay-Z is to the East.

Cube is raw like Nas when it comes to conscious, political gangsta shit... sure they have a few radio-friendly joints, but not to the extent of Snoop & Jay... while Snoop & Jay have a ton more radio-friendly joints that have made them more appealing to the mainstream audiences over the years... and that doesn't include Snoop & Jay's guest appearances on R&B as well as other mainstream rapper's joints over the years...  which further shows the distinction between Cube/Snoop & Nas/Jay in terms of star quality.

+1
wow never thought of it like that
now that u mentioned it i'd say that is a very realistic comparison

Yeah I said the same also. Thanks everyone for the responses.

[Mackin]

Arguably it could be either Cube or Snoop!
Depending on what you are looking for..Both artists have done a lot regionally and coastal,and still brought it back home-Cali!
I'd go with Snoop,He has an ability to change his flows,which Cube rarely does,but Dude-Cube is still vicious on the Mic!