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Elevz:
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on December 10, 2007, 03:27:58 PM ---I understand you got your beliefs, so I'm not tryin' to disrespect that. But you don't even believe in miracles??
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Why should I believe in something that goes right against all laws of logic? Even if I witnessed a miracle, it's more likely that I would doubt my own sanity before believing what I witnessed is actually true.
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on December 10, 2007, 03:27:58 PM ---All I'ma say is you should listen to some Mahalia Jackson, that'll make you want to believe. ;D Oh, and even Mariah Carey's Christmas album, since it's that time. Which actually what about Christmas time? Do you celebrate that shit?
Sorry homie, I'm not tryin to be disrespectful, I'm just curious.
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Just because I'm not religious, doesn't mean I have no beliefs. I believe in a whole lot of stuff. I wouldn't be breathing if I didn't believe. I believe in people. That's also what makes my Christmas enjoyable, so surely I celebrate that by going out for dinner with my special lady, and having a good time with the family, with presents and all.
I don't see any disrespect! In fact, props for being so curious haha
I'll get back to the rest of the replies later, I'm kinda busy right now.
QuietTruth:
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on December 11, 2007, 11:48:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on December 10, 2007, 03:27:58 PM ---I understand you got your beliefs, so I'm not tryin' to disrespect that. But you don't even believe in miracles??
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Why should I believe in something that goes right against all laws of logic? Even if I witnessed a miracle, it's more likely that I would doubt my own sanity before believing what I witnessed is actually true.
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That's interesting, lol. It's happened before when a blind man, suddenly get's his eyesight back. That's unexplained. And prolly will be forever. You know what I'm sayin'? Like there's no explanation for that shit except by the Grace of God. That's a fuckin' miracle. And you don't believe in those? That's the first time I ever heard that, lol.
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on December 11, 2007, 11:48:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on December 10, 2007, 03:27:58 PM ---All I'ma say is you should listen to some Mahalia Jackson, that'll make you want to believe. ;D Oh, and even Mariah Carey's Christmas album, since it's that time. Which actually what about Christmas time? Do you celebrate that shit?
Sorry homie, I'm not tryin to be disrespectful, I'm just curious.
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Just because I'm not religious, doesn't mean I have no beliefs. I believe in a whole lot of stuff. I wouldn't be breathing if I didn't believe. I believe in people. That's also what makes my Christmas enjoyable, so surely I celebrate that by going out for dinner with my special lady, and having a good time with the family, with presents and all.
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That's what confuses me though. I don't know.
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on December 11, 2007, 11:48:05 AM ---I don't see any disrespect! In fact, props for being so curious haha
I'll get back to the rest of the replies later, I'm kinda busy right now.
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Aight cool, I didn't want you to think I'm tryin' to get all in your personal shit and everythang. Lol.
white Boy:
David Hume
" I am apt to suspect the negroes and in general all the other species of men (for there are four or five different kinds) to be naturally inferior to the whites. There never was a civilized nation of any other complexion than white, nor even any individual eminent either in action or speculation. No ingenious manufactures amongst them, no arts, no sciences. On the other hand, the most rude and barbarous of the whites, such as the ancient Germans, the present Tartars, have still something eminent about them, in their valour, form of government, or some other particular. Such a uniform and constant difference could not happen, in so many countries and ages, if nature had not made an original distinction betwixt these breeds of men. Not to mention our colonies, there are Negroe slaves dispersed all over Europe, of which none ever discovered any symptoms of ingenuity; tho' low people, without education, will start up amongst us, and distinguish themselves in every profession. In Jamaica indeed they talk of one negroe as a man of parts and learning; but ‘tis likely he is admired for very slender accomplishments, like a parrot, who speaks a few words plainly.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: white Boy on December 12, 2007, 11:11:35 AM ---David Hume
" I am apt to suspect the negroes and in general all the other species of men (for there are four or five different kinds) to be naturally inferior to the whites. There never was a civilized nation of any other complexion than white, nor even any individual eminent either in action or speculation. No ingenious manufactures amongst them, no arts, no sciences. On the other hand, the most rude and barbarous of the whites, such as the ancient Germans, the present Tartars, have still something eminent about them, in their valour, form of government, or some other particular. Such a uniform and constant difference could not happen, in so many countries and ages, if nature had not made an original distinction betwixt these breeds of men. Not to mention our colonies, there are Negroe slaves dispersed all over Europe, of which none ever discovered any symptoms of ingenuity; tho' low people, without education, will start up amongst us, and distinguish themselves in every profession. In Jamaica indeed they talk of one negroe as a man of parts and learning; but ‘tis likely he is admired for very slender accomplishments, like a parrot, who speaks a few words plainly.
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I never said he was Jesus. 7even was the one that called him great. I just brought up a debate he had with the science community. The content of one's character has no effect on the man's contributions or arguments. If Isaac Newton was found out to be a pedophile would that change his contribution to science? Hume is either a deep rooted racist or a victim of his times and what he saw. Either way that doesn't change the fact that science cannot study what hasn't happened yet. This all stems from positivism; that only through strict scientific menthod and study can something be considered science. The idea that if something isn't tested over and over again it cannot be true science. My argument takes it a step futher in saying that even the tried, tested, and true can change is the world changes and there is no way in knowing whether the world will change or not.
7even:
1. You have to put this racist paragraph into timely context. Back when Hume lived that type of thinking wasn't tabu at all.
2. You should not condemn a person because of one issue you heavily disagree with. There's hundreds of texts by him that I can guarantee you would not be nearly as fed up with.
People too often rely on discrediting the person when they can't refute the argument.
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