west coast record sales, the problem

[techniec]

have yall noticed how miniture and weak the west coast has been, it went from being a huge hip hop bloc, a lobby to being a piece of shit, and u know what it pisses me off

5 years ago, during the golden age of gangsta rap, mc eiht and spice 1 were going gold,
nowadays people like mack 10 and dj quik, whose first 3-4 albums went gold, dont go gold anymore

it pisses me off that the west coast is so small an dinsignificant in hip hop today, the whole coast is under rated, tell me yall , who the fuck on the west sells?

only multi-platinum artists are dre and snoop

eastsidaz, warren g, and xzibit are at the platinum mark

and too short and ice cube go gold usually, thats it?

it kills me when guys like kurupt cant sell, his first album went gold, but thats only cuz it was adouble album,
tha streetz is a mutha only sold like 300,000
bad azz wont sell, the new kurupt wont sell, i doubt eastsidaz will go platinum again, i find it hard to belive xzibits next shit will sell more than gold

the west coast needs to wake up and check itself
look at atlanta , their the capital of rap now,
we need to do something quik

[Don Seer]

the other problem is distribution.. when dre's album came out my local store has like 50 copies... it had 2 copies of kurupts  

[techniec]

yeah for sure, distribution and promotion is a problem, these major label fat cats just ignore the left coast,

cmon yall, i wanna see yall opinions on this, this is our music, and its barely surviving in the mainstrema world

[Trauma-san]

Yeah, I Don't Know How The First Eastsidaz Went Plat, I Didn't Understand That.

Snoop PutHis Name On Doggy's Angels, And I Don't Think It Moved 100K...

[Joachim]

I think Snoop and Dre sell because they appeal to a mainstream audience, Dre through Eminem and Snoop cos hes always on tv, radio other peoples songs.

Rappers like Kurupt aint up on MTV every day so the mainstream audience knows their there but aint interested.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Eastsidaz sold because they had 2 BIG singles out ('Got Beef' and 'G'd Up')...."Streetz Is a Mutha" went Gold..."Space Boogie is gunna go Platinum", because of all the TRL shit....Xzibit is getting bigger by the day....I belive the West is doing better and better...not getting worse..

[Mr G-Thang]

Snoops got a fanbase of 1 million fans in the US, those are fans that appreciate his music and doesn't just buy whats in, that fans that keep it real. These are fans that listenins to a song several times just to see if they can like it more. They give Snoop a chance even if they don't feel his shit with once.

Then he got 500 000 fans that'll buy his stuff if they think its dope, or else they won't these fans doesn't give his music much chance, either they must feel the shit with once or not at all.

And then you got those who buys whatever they like at the moment, they don't give a fuck about the artist as long as they feel the shit at the moment.

And last you got those motherfuckers that buys anything thats in, call em teenbloppers if you want to.

thats why snoop sells, thats why Eastsidaz sold

the reason why Doggys Angels didn't too good is cause female rappers usually don't do too good, if it sold 100k then it was only cause Snoop was there

beside I never listened to that shit actually and I am one of the biggest Snoop fans around

[DJ Stew]

i donno about kurupt goin plat i can see gold but a sellin a mill may be pushin it
i gotta agree with techniec on the most of the shit but overseeer is right about distibution, its shit. Tha Streetz.. only hit my local major record store last november and all DPG records releases i gotta special order and they cost me 35$+ its stupid
the website or the major record store is listing kurupts new cd as 29.99 which i'll pay IF it actually hits the store up here

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Or if Doggy's Angels were fine, and were half nude in their videos, they woulda' gone plantinum...

[Mr_Loc]

good post techniec. i agree, its a real shame the underground cats like Eiht, Above The Law (never even gone gold) etc dont sell.

i think one problem is fans/support. in the other markets (east , south, etc) the fans and the industry support their own. but out west, the radio is about 50% non-west, mix tape and club djs play the same, and a lot of fans are very fickle.

plus, even so-called west coast supporters dont know shit about any west coast artists outside of Dre and Snoops camps. I always hear shit like 'well if Ras Kass would get with Dre hed go plat' etc etc. FUCK THAT, Ras Kass is dope on his own. People need to realize there are a lot of fools making music, sure it might not be on Dre's level but its still good ass music.

one other thing i want to add is the independent game. The REAL west coast hip hop supporters are true to the music, and will support their artists (especially in the Bay). so now the artists are seeing they can sell to the underground heads and make their money if they target their markets. you wont see them on mtv that way, but it avoids a lot of bullshit politics and industry snakes. So they set up their own label and do it that way.

and of course the hip hop media is to blame. weve all seen the bullshit reviews the source CONSTANTLY give to west coast acts. okay so east coast writers will like east coast music better, well fuck that. get west coast writers in there, make a west coast version of the magazine if you have to. just give us our fuckin props.

so basically the wests back is against the wall, but fortunately there are some real fans who support the artists even if they dont get on mtv. we need more.

[Trauma-san]

I Agree With The Statements About Snoop's Fans, He'll Go Plat Even If The Album Ain't Good, Because Peeps Like Me Will Buy It To Give It A Try.

I Also Agree With Loc's Statements About It Doesn't Have To Be Dre Level Stuff To Buy.

Even If You DO Think Dre's At The Top Of The Game, There's Still A Cut Off Point, Ya Know? Like The Question Is, How Tight Does The Artist Have To Be Before You'll Buy Their Stuff... I'm Not Gonna Sit Here And Crap On Mr. Short Khop Because His Album Didn't Have Dre On It, It Was STILL Tight... So I Bought It Too.  And X-Raided Ain't NEVER Gonna Have Dre On His Album, But It's Still Tight, Even If It Isn't As Good.  

[Nosak]

Eastsidaz sold because they had 2 BIG singles out ('Got Beef' and 'G'd Up'

yeah true but doggy's angels also have two bigg ones,,, baby if u ready was at the top for how long 8 weeks i think,, plus everywhere i go i hear "pleezbaleevit" dawm ,,,it's a shame

-slickk  

[Don Jacob]

check it



dre 2001- 7 million very good
tha last meal-2.5 million
restless-1.75 million
kuruption!-gold (it's not considered a double cd cuz it's only a 70+ min album)
tha streetz iz a mutha-gold
You Nasty-gold
balance and options-gold
Peace Disc-gold+
until the end of time-3times platnum
Tha Eastsidaz-platnum


the west is doing very good for it's self just cuz they ain't all over the place like they use to don't mean the west sux , times change and another coast has to shine it's like Ghostface and Raekwon said right now it's the souths time to shine ain't no thang, just as long as all my fav west coast artists are putting out good music every things alright, how do you imagine how the east felt when gangsta rap and g-funk took over after they had rap on lock for so  many years....that was the wests time to shine then master p got popular and that opened alot of doors for alot of  down south acts to shine, it's just their time to shine right now, slowly the midwest is starting to come up now , if you look at cash money they're actually saling less records and people are looking else where for a good "party jam" seeing they're falling like no limit did, that's why they're picking up mack 10 taking a chapter out of master p's playbook to save their lable they gotta sign a willing star from another genre in rap....anyways i'm talking too much but you get my point just stick to what you like and who gives a fuck if it sales 10 million or 10 thousand the chronic is the chronic platnum plus or not

[Sikotic™]

Y'all have to understand that the west is very, very diverse. People from all walks of life, all around the world come to live in California. I know alot of people from the east who come to live in Cali and they still support  East Coast music. Thats why stations here play all kinds of hip-hop, cause there are all kinds of rap fans here. I'm not saying it isn't like that in the East or South but Cali is more diverse then those regions.

[Big FC]

all i kno is "who ride wit us" was fucking huge in my town.. everyone knew and liked that song.. i kno maybe 5 people who hav that album.. and all of them bought it before that song was big..