2Pac Debuts, Gains Title Of Best Selling Rapper

[bodyrott]

It's good but to me I judge an artist on his quality and not quantity.
Also 2pac never had as much promotion as Eminem in his earlier albums so you know.

[infinite59]

Hellrazor, just because you don't see Eminem's message doesn't mean he doesn't have one.  And people call Eminem pop because he's white.  When really his albums are more raw than the rest of the market.

[verbalassaulta]

one of the main reasons em sells more is cause his fan base is wider...people who bought pacs albums back in the day were rap fans...and people who buy ems albums (specially whites) are not only rap fans but of other genres as well....good examples...i have lots of friends who listen to nothing but garbage music they call death metal or whatever, but they all have em's album mmlp??  and no other rap whatsoever.....only cause he's white i think thouogh...cause i try to introduce them to other rap and they reject it but for some reason will listen to em

[Ro J. Simpson]

Of course he does...They are both extremely good MC's...

very true.........

[caTASHtrophe]

Actually, Technically 2pac has probably only "REALLY" sold about half of that 30 million + sales of his. Coz alot of his stuff are double cds which means they are counted twice.

For example if "All eyez on me" has gone 10x plat (diamond) then really its sold 5 mill. (5 mil per cd)

Im out

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Hellrazor, it doesnt matter who he sells to, it matters if it's good or not...and Em has more lyrical talent than most rappers...Listen to "Open Mic", it's amazing...so what if he's pop?

Pac was Pop, Dre is Pop, Snoop is Pop...Gawd...You need a lot to learn...

[Sikotic™]

Anyone who sells 2x platinum plus is pretty much pop.

[ImmortalOne]

Hellrazor, it doesnt matter who he sells to, it matters if it's good or not...and Em has more lyrical talent than most rappers...Listen to "Open Mic", it's amazing...so what if he's pop?

Pac was Pop, Dre is Pop, Snoop is Pop...Gawd...You need a lot to learn...

Pac isnt pop son. He doesnt rely on shock value and commercialism to sell records like Eminem does. Pac sells records cuz everyone is feelin him, and he was the realest to ever touch the mic, and also, cuz he's dead [not to take anything away from him though, cuz he sold alot while he was alive too, just not as much]. You dont see Britany Spears fans buying 2Pac albums. But they DO buy Eminem albums, cuz of the controversey he was in with the pop stars. Sorry, you can try to argue, but its true.

I have alot to learn?? Hahaha. Im not gonna beef with you, cuz internet beefs are pointless, but have you ever heard an album like 36 Chambers, Ready To Die, ATLiens, E.1999 Eternal, The Infamous, etc etc?? J/W

[AlerG]

"hellrazor" before you jump in this thread and make asenine remarks why don't you do a little research and read some of the posts previous to your first.
none of these rappers are teeny boppers, that's even stupid to say any rapper is a fuckin teeny bopper.
if you looked back at previous posts you wouldn't seen my explanation on why eminem is not a teeny bopper and those who consider him one are as uneducated about rap as their dead great great grandmother, i ain't gonna explain again, look for yourself.
and that dude that said that if 2pac was on trl he wouldn't have chicks with his name on a poster and crying. that was the dumbest thing that was brought into this whole conversation. i think you are jealous of eminem cause he has chicks writing his name on posters.
oh actually now i'm gonna do you a favor on my next post.

[AlerG]

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guess that makes you a teeny bopper now then too.



get my point now, peace.

[ImmortalOne]

"hellrazor" before you jump in this thread and make asenine remarks why don't you do a little research and read some of the posts previous to your first.
none of these rappers are teeny boppers, that's even stupid to say any rapper is a fuckin teeny bopper.
if you looked back at previous posts you wouldn't seen my explanation on why eminem is not a teeny bopper and those who consider him one are as uneducated about rap as their dead great great grandmother, i ain't gonna explain again, look for yourself.
and that dude that said that if 2pac was on trl he wouldn't have chicks with his name on a poster and crying. that was the dumbest thing that was brought into this whole conversation. i think you are jealous of eminem cause he has chicks writing his name on posters.
oh actually now i'm gonna do you a favor on my next post.

Out here in Cali, Eminem's albums are bought by teeny boppers. I have no reason to lie or do any research. I work at a music store, and almost everyone who asks for Eminem albums is like 15 or under. Me jealous of Eminem?? Yea fucking right. Id kill myself if I was anything like that loser.

Just cuz I aint feelin Eminem im uneducated about hip hop?? I dont think so. Im just not all over his nuts like the several million dickriders who are. I listen to REAL hip hop, like Wu Tang, Gang Starr, Pac, Nas, Biggie, Mobb Deep, The Roots, Bone, Outkast, Tribe, Redman, Talib Kweli, etc etc......

[AlerG]

why is eminem not real hip-hop, thus far you have yet to prove why? is it because you ain't feelin him? or is it because of the fact that his fan base has grown bigger than 2Pac's. well let's put it this way, more likely in your terms, for every 2 eminem dickriders there is at least 1 2Pac dickrider, now how stupid does that sound.
oh and you are puting words in my mouth by saying that i said you were uneducated about hip-hop, once again you failed to read the post thoroughly. i said you calling eminem a teeny bopper is as an uneducated call as it gets.
now you say that you can't be jealous of that loser eminem. eminem= multi-millionaire, crazy rap skills, soon to be best selling rap record ever.
you= job at music store (definately not a multi-milionaire), haven't heard you rap (therefor thusfar you skilless), and i'm pretty sure you haven't sold an album yet.
so if you are calling eminem a loser than what does that make you, or anyone else in this forum for that matter?

[ImmortalOne]

why is eminem not real hip-hop, thus far you have yet to prove why? is it because you ain't feelin him? or is it because of the fact that his fan base has grown bigger than 2Pac's. well let's put it this way, more likely in your terms, for every 2 eminem dickriders there is at least 1 2Pac dickrider, now how stupid does that sound.
oh and you are puting words in my mouth by saying that i said you were uneducated about hip-hop, once again you failed to read the post thoroughly. i said you calling eminem a teeny bopper is as an uneducated call as it gets.
now you say that you can't be jealous of that loser eminem. eminem= multi-millionaire, crazy rap skills, soon to be best selling rap record ever.
you= job at music store (definately not a multi-milionaire), haven't heard you rap (therefor thusfar you skilless), and i'm pretty sure you haven't sold an album yet.
so if you are calling eminem a loser than what does that make you, or anyone else in this forum for that matter?

C'mon man, I know you can do better than that. Are you saying Eminem is a better person than me cuz he is a multi-millionare and im not?? Thats what it sounds like, and if thats the case, he's a better person than anyone on this board. God, I love taking people's arguements apart. I dont rap, and have no intention of doing so. I dont care how many records Eminem has sold. It doesnt mean he is the best person in the world, or the greatest rapper ever. You are one shallow cat if you really think that money matters that much. I am a better person INSIDE than Eminem is, and thats the most important thing.

Also, Eminem aint gonna outsell 2Pac. Pac has sold over 34 million albums, and he's still climbing. Em has only sold 11 million. The Marshall Mathers LP has fallen off the charts completely, and All Eyez On Me, Greatest Hits, and Makaveli have all re-entered the charts.

But fuck a record sale, its the music that counts, and I think the vast majority of people will agree that Pac is better than Eminem.

[West Coast Veteran]

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guess that makes you a teeny bopper now then too.



get my point now, peace.

that does not make one bit of sense...that was the dumbest thing to ever be posted in this agruement...

1) i never said Eminem was a teenybopper
2) i said the majority of his fans were teenyboppers
3) having lil whores saying "I LOVE YOU" does not make you a teenybopper but it makes your fans teenyboppers because they care more about your looks than the amount of talent you have.

but i dont care anymore...this topic is old and played...i cant change your mind about Em...and you will for damn sure not change my opinions about him...i dont like him plain and simple...and like i said i started this arguement because you came in here talking about Eminem "hmmm..2 records = 13 million" like that is a big fucking accomplishment when you got teenyboppers on your nuts...i was just pissed that we're trying to give Pac some RESPECT and you come in here and write some shit that disrespects Pac like Em is better or something cause he sold more faster PLEEEEAAAASE! and i just proved earlier in the thread WHY Em Has SOLD MORE!!!

and ALL MY REASONS ARE LEGIT! give me some proof that they are not...

plus we all know Pac is better so thats all that counts[2 Classic Albums/More Respected/LEgendary Status/Better MC/More Influential/and the list goes on]...peace Em your a talented MC but i hope you use that talent instead of just wasting it on GIMMICKS like Jigga and Nas are [but at least they got Classic albums under their belts]...i hope to see more suburban commandoes dye their hair blond and sport wife beaters in the future LOL!!...

[West Coast Veteran]

and that dude that said that if 2pac was on trl he wouldn't have chicks with his name on a poster and crying. that was the dumbest thing that was brought into this whole conversation. i think you are jealous of eminem cause he has chicks writing his name on posters.

give me a reason why that is the dumbest thing? like i said in the above posts, name me one time that Pac had bitches screaming and crying with posters saying "I WANT TO MARRY YOU"...if you do then i will be quiet...dont get mad cause your GOD Eminem has turned pop...not mainstream but pop...and i aint jealous of him...all them chicks is fucking UGLY anyways..im jealous of Eric Benet [he's married to HALLE BERRY].