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Quote from: Mackin4Life on December 28, 2007, 06:31:33 PMQuote from: Styles1 on December 28, 2007, 03:37:01 PMI thought Pope Mobile was great at addressing religion... it's from Bishop's point of view. That song about Jesus dodging the police and hanging with thugs is some real shit, because it's the truth, according to the gospels at least. LMAo!!What Jesus is This??The Bible Christ or the Jesus created by rappers for Hip Hop???Styles I think Mackin4life is on point. For me, Bishop is doing what every other rapper does when they spit on religion - make it completely digestable for rap fans in a completely unchallenging way. Look I am not a theologian and Bishop is not completely off the mark but to me this does not feel like a real portrayal of how bishop really feels about his religion (unless bishop is a superficial dude which i don't think he is), its just religion for rap fans to feel good about themselves if that makes any sense. Quote from: Styles1 on December 28, 2007, 03:37:01 PMthere is no out-right theological song, but if he did that, then listeners would complain about it's preachiness, no? but the guy is a thinker and I know that he's got his opinions... maybe we will get the deep song that you are looking for. I can definitely ask him that soon. i understand what you are saying homie, but i do not want to be preached at, I want something personal from bishop that gives us a clue to who he really is. the only time we really get that is on the track on pope mobile where he speaks on hating his father. i might be expecting a bit much and confusing a lot of different things but my bottom line with any "conscious" or "lyrical" rapper is that I have to feel like they are being honest about themselves not just hiding behind some clever words, some ideas which sound good (but which ultimately lack substance) and a huge ego. i kind of feel like bishop falls into that category at the moment but i am waiting on the album. gangsta rappers will always get away with being judged less harshly because for all the bullshit about who is real and who is not, they are tellng a story and portraying an image which is fundamentally about entertainment. "conscious" rappers are telling us that they are delivering something "real" about the world and about themselves. if that "real" is a 12 year old's politics and religion, they are not worth listening to. Just my opinion homie.
Quote from: Styles1 on December 28, 2007, 03:37:01 PMI thought Pope Mobile was great at addressing religion... it's from Bishop's point of view. That song about Jesus dodging the police and hanging with thugs is some real shit, because it's the truth, according to the gospels at least. LMAo!!What Jesus is This??The Bible Christ or the Jesus created by rappers for Hip Hop???
I thought Pope Mobile was great at addressing religion... it's from Bishop's point of view. That song about Jesus dodging the police and hanging with thugs is some real shit, because it's the truth, according to the gospels at least.
there is no out-right theological song, but if he did that, then listeners would complain about it's preachiness, no? but the guy is a thinker and I know that he's got his opinions... maybe we will get the deep song that you are looking for. I can definitely ask him that soon.
you are a lil extra with it for me my equal, to be lyrical doesn't mean you have to be honest about yourself,and it's not always hiding behind clever words,it's the artist doing what the "artist" wants,and alot of times as fans we try to make them into something there not,just enjoy it for what it is,and if you don't braille it,cool too,not always gonna get down with every artist, plus the 12 year old comment what the fucc is that? you think if someone speaks about religion they should always go into the depth the way the bible does? sometimes artist just give you the surface,and it leads you to finding out more about it,if that's what you choose to do, that's just my opinion,but hey we all different people yell
To each his own , I don't feel G Malone and Ya Boy , I prefer Bishop and Omar Cruz ... if it ever drops Bishop gonna have the best debut from a WC artist since a long time ...
Quote from: wcsoldier on December 30, 2007, 02:19:07 AMTo each his own , I don't feel G Malone and Ya Boy , I prefer Bishop and Omar Cruz ... if it ever drops Bishop gonna have the best debut from a WC artist since a long time ...and when you say a long time how long is that exactly?Cause aint nobody toppin The Documentary when it comes to debuts... and Ya Boy shits on bishop .. Ya Boy at least sounds like he wanna rap..
Quote from: wcsoldier on December 30, 2007, 02:19:07 AMTo each his own , I don't feel G Malone and Ya Boy , I prefer Bishop and Omar Cruz ... if it ever drops Bishop gonna have the best debut from a WC artist since a long time ... and Ya Boy shits on bishop .. Ya Boy at least sounds like he wanna rap..