Totally UnMusic Related Post From A Moderator ;)

[Smooth]

i think personally that leaving him in Jail for the rest of his life would be a lot worse then the death penalty... but some of the victims loved one's want some piece of mind... and i guess killing him will do that...

Peace

[Cliftone_Santiago_909]

  He got off eazy.... Lethal Injection so it wouldn't be painful.. I would've busted out with some Japanese torture methods...

  Or atleast they could have gave him the electric chair..... but let'em get electrecuted a lil and then accidently turn it off..... then back on... then back off.... back on.... yeah, that would be some funny shit.

  I dont think there's nothin wrong with the Death Penelty.... alot of times people get off TOO EASY... if you're gonna kill over 100 innocent people.. why do you deserve to live?

[Big FC]

yo techniec. what crimes are you referring to and where do you live?

[Sikotic™]

Lethal Injection is not as painless as it seems. You just can't see there expressions. Its not like putting an animal to sleep. Its like the person is blowing up inside. They stop the heart and the person can feel that. I forgot the whole process but it is not painless, yet its too quick. Like Criminal said they shoulda tortured his ass.

The best thing to do in my opinion is blow him up.

[Rud]

THE INJECTION ISNT PAINFULL COS HE IS ALREADY UNCONCIOUS B4 HE IS GIVIN THE LETHAL POISON.........SO HE DUZNT FEEL N E THIN...........ITS FUCKED UP


peace

[Jay ay Beeee (Guest)]

Surely if someone is in the mindstate to blow up 168 people they don't mind dying

I can't believe that the so called greatest nation in the world has the death penalty

If I had killed 168 people would I want to:
a) Be killed myself or
b) Live with myself for 60 years - locked up

I would take a) anyday

Please believe the American nation gave Timothy McVeigh EXACTLY what he wanted

And like on of the protester's signs said : " God loves you Timothy, even if we don't"

Safe

[cremedelaclem]

its debates such as this which get my blood racing....

i got a degree in moral issues and i read up on this kind of thing all the time....

this falls into the same catogary as euthanasia and abortion and any self respecting moralist will tell you that it is NEVER right to kill someone else....the bible backs that up, the qu'ran does, every religion there is is against murder under any circumstances.

it is a basic human instinct to say "an eye for an eye..." but in my opinion it is wrong. tim mcveigh's death wont end this story, and it wont make anybody any better off, its a cowardly thing for the usa to do to make an example of him as they are and, in my opinion, the relatives and survivors of the bombing place themselves on his level by killing him.

if they cant forgive him and spare his life then god will not forgive them is how i see it, no matter how hard it is to get over this tragedy NOTHING can justify a planned, un natural death.

[Jay ay Beeee (Guest)]

I feel ya I totally agree I'm a catholic and I believe that the USA is totally wrong with this

The president - the most important and powerful man in the world said:
"The families of the dead have not got vengeance they have got justice"

That is sickening, some justice that is

America needs to check themselves over this

[techniec]

yo FC, i live in toronto and my life is good, but i am of afghan origin, and im a muslim, and theres numerous examples of US foreign inteference in other nations affairs

1. constant bombing of Iraq
2. the bombing of Iranian navy vessels, during the iraq-iran war
3. supplying of weapons to the afghan civil war, and
the airstrikes against sudan, afgahnistan, libya
4. their biased and inhuman support of israel, despite atrocities commited on both sides
5. and its not just internationally, read up on the whole cointelpro movement by the FBI in the 60's and 70's targeting civil rights leaders
(still believe the us govt killed malcolm)
peace

[Trauma-san]

The US Government Does PLENTY Bad. But, Why Did The Dumbass Blow The Building Up During THe Day, When He Knew There'd Be Innocent People Inside? Why Not Blow It Up At Night? Because He Meant To Hurt Innocent People, That's Why.  I Can't Forgive That, I'm Human, I'm Not Perfect, And God Knows That.  That's Just Out Of My Capacity, I'm Not Jesus, I Can't Forgive Everybody.  

BTW, I Don't Know If Yall Know It In Other Countries, But The U.S. Has 2 Types Of Crimes; There's Federal Crimes (Which This Was; He Blew Up A Government Building) And Then There Are Crimes Jurisdicted By The States.  Last Year America Killed 80 People, So It's Really Not Out Of The Ordinary; This Was Just The First FEDERAL Prisioner Killed In 30 Years, Every Year The States Kill People.  Electrocution, Lethal Injection, I Think 1 State Still Hangs, and 1 State Still Uses A Firing Squad, Although I Don't Know If They've Killed Anyone Lately... I Thought I Remembered Hearing Of A Guy Hung As Little As 5-6 Years Ago, Though...

[TheSheriff]

What he did was undeniably wrong, but he did it out of a feeling of a need for justice, however misplaced.

I'm pretty damn sure Heaven has an asylum...Either that, or he's goin to Purgatory. Only people that do things out of unashamed greed go straight to Hell.

And he accepted he would die for his "heroism".

Crimes are: Starving Iraqis(McVeigh being a Gulf Vet). Waco Siege(if my figures are right, more people died there than at Okhlahoma)...Etc.

[Sikotic™]

Hey everyone loses in this. If we didn't kill him people would be like "Why is the monster still alive" and when we kill him peeps are like "The U.S. is sick. Why did they kill him?"

The truth is the US is very fucked up. Sometimes it goes along with moral values and then the next it wants to be politically Correct with issues so it can look all good. McVeigh's execution may not have brought the victims back but it brings closure to the families of the victims.

If someone killed your loved one would you want them to live in a prison for life? Even if you forgive that person you want justice. You would want the person to lose exeactly what the person you loved lost: their life.

I don't know why everyone wants to be so god damn politically correct. I don't agree with much that Bush says but I agree with his statement yesterday: "Justice was served".

[Ka Rule (Guest)]

btw it was mentioned b4 about the death penalty being a deterant, if ur the type of person who needs to murder some1 ur not really gone b too bothered about what the punishment is, ur just gone try and not get caught

[Don Seer]

I think the reason is this...

America has had problems with terrorists in the past.
The reason is that in issues aboard it usually supports the people with money (or the ones that will end up being the most tactically advantageous against another foe), not the 'just' causes.

America wants to show terrorists that they will die if they try it, this limits the amount of terrorism down to extreme groups.. likely to have been already identified by the CIA

[Big FC]

not that many died at waco.. less than one hundred... and you can say what you like about america... i mean this is a nation of free speech, which i kno is not always true in other nations, i believe the US will be smiled upon in history, and you know why, because their so called atrocities are nothing compared to the horrible acts committed by a dozen nations e.g. all the communist nations that have ever existed, national socialism, anything to that effect and most governements going back to before the roman empire.  compared to all of those the US is the most benevloent nation of all.. and as far as general religion's being against murder, i can't say that i have had pleasure of reading the qu'ran, but if you want to read of vengance and an eye for an eye, look at the old testament of the bible, which is of course also in the torah... finally as for US support of Israel, its easy, three reasons, first the holocaust where the US failed to do jack to help the jews as did all of western europe, secondly, in the US there are a large number of jews in america in powerful or wealthy positions who of course are going to contribute to campaigns or lobby for their cause, and thirdly i could be in err but i hav heard a little of the jihad and well the US is a little less likely to support those who call the US the land of the white devil.. peace