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You do realize that a renovated fucking liquor store is peanuts compared to what else the government is spending money for, right? All the infrastructure, railroads, streets, schools, education, security, war... it's all financed through taxes. You guys act as if they would just collect 40% of your income and spend all of it on private coke & hooker parties. Redistribution of income is also a very important point. Tax cuts are always a blessing for the wealthy and wicked. They have more money to spend on luxery things they don't need, while the government doesn't have the money to support the poor, with things like welfare or health care. The wider the gap between rich and poor, the greater the crime rate and the greater the percentage of decadent people with a revolutionary mind-set. Of course not every tax dollar is spent extremely wisely, but some people in here act as if the whole system of having taxes is a conspiracy. It'd be plain anarchy without taxes. The poor with less/no money, and the wealthy with more money... but would they use their money to help the poor? Of course not, they would use it to make even more money. Great! Listen, just because some people think they are able to deal with their money themselves without the government regulating shit, doesn't mean everybody would be able to. To me a country without taxes would be doomed in the long run. I really hope America keeps reducing taxes more and more (because otherwise you won't become elected)... you people will see what happens then. You deserve it.
You're talking a lot of shit. I don't want to get into details, but anarchy can never work. Again, I can only hope that the US or in your case Canada gets what y'all economic neo-liberals want. Be careful what you wish for, son. With that said Marx > your family tree
From my understanding, the central banks provide the government with huge loans, which are termed the national debt. This debt is secured against the citizens income tax. Here is something interesting for those that dismiss this notion that is the central banks which control the entire world, and the issue surrounding it, is transparency. When this issue is raised, people will automatically dismiss it as a conspiracy theory and yet they will never reveal who owns the central banks. Now in terms of asking how the infrastructure is developed maintained in services, welfare and any other avenues, it's financed through 2 things, firstly the ongoing loans issued to national governments and through the many other taxes, think about all of the items in the shop, these are all Vatable. Now look at council taxes, national insurance, taxable benefits, there are hundreds of indirect forms of taxation. The central banks have been given complete independence to make or break a country, look at what the federal reserve has done, devalued the dollar to the point where the whole economic system is on the very edge of self destructing. The central banks print the money out of thin air, they can't lose, just how difficult do you think it is to buy politicians off? banking families like the rothschilds, conservatively have a fortune of 100 trillion. Also, I think though what you west coast was saying, was negative, it was also positive to because you recognise that we are now living under complete dictatorship, through your recognition that you are fucked if you don't go along with the system. However think about this also, the government incessantly holds focus groups, the national surveillance agencies, measure the chatter on hot issues, we are so controlled and tightly monitored, that I have come to the conclusion that they are extremely paranoid. The reason why they continually hold focus groups, is they want to be able to assess and ascertain public opinion. The reality is this, me and you are in the minority, the majority are still oblivious of the malevolent nature of the order around us and this is what ensures the agenda rolls forward. If you notice with most of these incremental steps, they are not declaring that we rule you, they are not being openly menacing, instead they are much more cunning than that. What they do is create the backdrop, propagandianize us with the problem and then offer a false solution. We as a collective are enslaving ourselves, they are not shepherding us into the cages, we are moving into them, because that is what we think needs to be done. This strikes at 2 main cores, the first is a society in which many people are incapable of critical thinking, i.e. they hear something or read something but don't assess and understand what it actually means, the second which is much worse, is the alarming few who do actually read. By not educating ourselves, we become dependent on a soundbite, white washed story or headline in order to feed our opinions and this is where the main problem lies.Despite the facade though, remember people power would crush all of this and through non violence to, which is why the establishment from America to Britain and beyond, has employed the best psychologists in order to come with what amounts to a genius implementation of total conditioning. However the biggest issue is this, we think we don't know, we seem to reject or approve of things on the basis of "what i believe" we have pre conceptions and images which we associate with any issue. I used to buy into so much of all of this, here is something that should send a shiver down everyones spine and in turn resist it, in the UK, the plan is to force every single citizen onto a national id database, companies will have access to the contents held on the database, but the citizen will not. Without being registered, without giving your iris scans, dna and fingerprints, you will never be allowed to leave the country, they intend to marry the checkout tills with the id card and then move over to paying via your fingerprints (like is being to happen in germany). Liam Burns (home office minister) said the labour government is aiming to have the fingerprints of all 11-16 in order to hamonise the UK with The European Directive. The purpose of the directive is to centralise all E.U' nations databases onto a european database. At the very same time, the E.U has agreed to a free trade agreement with the NAU (even though the NAU doesn't exist) every free trade block leads to a political unit in order to regulate. The Americans are calling for the europeans to share their databases with them, the end result is this, a worldwide prison grid where privacy is laughed at, where colossal no fly lists can be fully created, a key system on which depending on your behaviour, prison record etc access can be barred to services automatically via the database being linked to all transactions. However in the UK all of this be crushed if just 20% of people refuse, this probably is not going to happen but one thing I do know, is that I will sooner die then submit to having a chip embedded in my skin. The reason being of course that as soon as they have that in us, it's over for humanity. The thing to do is firstly try and educate yourself just on the basics even and then maybe I don't know, focus more on one particular area and then wake people the fuck up. I am just as guilty as many in this respect, I start feeling like it's something which shouldn't be talked about for fear of how others will perceive me but lately, fuck it. They stick fluoride in our water despite studies confirming the deadly effects they stick aspartame in the soft drinks despite even the FDA's own admission of the many studies proving how it changes your DNA they come on television and talk about the evil Al Queda, when the senate congressional committee documented how Al Queda were funded and trained in 1998 during the Kosovo war, they are poisoning the entire planet with depleted uranium, they tell us the terrorists want to take away our freedoms, then they take our freedoms, they pump nerve gases into the sea, they admittedly experiment on us by releasing Sarin in the Wiltshire countryside to see how it reacts to the atmospheric conditions, they released a deadly virus into the New York subway they admittedly planned to carry out 911's before September 11 (Operation Northwoods) they knowingly release deadly prescription drugs onto the market which kills 70,000 people and yet no one gets prosecuted (Vioxx) they give the average kid in London 30 shots by the time they are 5, when these shots are full of thermosamol (mercury) who then tell you it's a conspiracy theory to say these vaccines are harming people TThese are people straight from the pits of hell who are kept in power by naivety, wickedness, the good intentioned and the disbelieving who buy their story about them being our protectorates.ry about them being our protectorates.
Quote from: 7even on January 24, 2008, 02:28:43 PMYou're talking a lot of shit. I don't want to get into details, but anarchy can never work. Again, I can only hope that the US or in your case Canada gets what y'all economic neo-liberals want. Be careful what you wish for, son. With that said Marx > your family treeLMAO... who's talking anarchy? You're a complete idiot. You just making statements you know nothing about.
I don't know why I am even responding but are you serious? the communist manifesto was unashamedly and openly evil. I can either conclude one of 3 thins about those that support communism, they are either disenchanted with the way things are and want a change of direction, they have heard that communism means everyone is equal, in which case have never read it, or thirdly they just worship evil.
You are cool 7even and what I said is not addressed to you exactly, was merely responding to you mentioned Marx in a non negative light. I am just saying there are many menacing undertones to Marx's communist manifesto and then there are just the downright sick points in it like describing the family as the enemy, the evil, submit to the state, take the kids to indoctrination centres because the state will love you. I actually felt really sick after reading that manifesto, hence the reason why I addressed people that like communism in 3 groups. I never suggested you liked communism!
Ive downloaded it again, will re read though it and then tell you. I might be wrong and it might have been some alternate communist doctrine I had read but will admit if I am wrong but anyways, the crux of my response to this thread, comes in my first rant