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Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on February 10, 2008, 03:41:16 AMQuote from: M Dogg on February 09, 2008, 11:19:43 PMQuote from: west coa$t on February 09, 2008, 10:48:35 PMI'm not into politics at all and it makes me sickbut I do know that Huckabeeeee wants to change the Constitution so fuck that guyI feel sorry for all you wasting time with these liars and consif Ron Paul is a con then what the fuck are all the other politicians? hahapoliticians... which are cons with a better chance of winning than Ron Paul. Paul is still a politician too... which is why he just JACKED all that money... and is about to pull out the race, no go 3rd party and he just secured his congressional set with that money. So Paul knew what he was doing all along. He JACKED you guys, and is keeping his congressional seat.I don't think anyone funded Ron Paul's campaign on the assumption that he would become president. And how has he jacked peoples money when he used that money to spread a message successfully? And if he decides to run as a third party candidate, he might have a better chance of getting some focus on him now that he got some shine as a Republican. If people don't approve of either of the Republican and Democratic candidates, they'll have something to choose. Thanks to Ron Paul being in the race for becoming the Republican nominee, people may actually notice him this time around. It's not even about becoming the 44th president of the United States. Thanks to Ron Paul there's a chance the 45th will be better. That's where the money went. Is that so hard to grasp?read Ralph Nader 2000. All he wanted was the Green Party to gain 5% of the vote to be seen nationally as a major party, hoping that would open a 2004 bid. On top of that Paul is 72, in 2012 he'll be 76, that's OLD. And the issues he brought up has always been there, but no we think... oh his making it larger. Just like the Green in 2000, within 8 years, you guys will move on and become either traditional Republicans or straight up Libertarian.
Quote from: M Dogg on February 09, 2008, 11:19:43 PMQuote from: west coa$t on February 09, 2008, 10:48:35 PMI'm not into politics at all and it makes me sickbut I do know that Huckabeeeee wants to change the Constitution so fuck that guyI feel sorry for all you wasting time with these liars and consif Ron Paul is a con then what the fuck are all the other politicians? hahapoliticians... which are cons with a better chance of winning than Ron Paul. Paul is still a politician too... which is why he just JACKED all that money... and is about to pull out the race, no go 3rd party and he just secured his congressional set with that money. So Paul knew what he was doing all along. He JACKED you guys, and is keeping his congressional seat.I don't think anyone funded Ron Paul's campaign on the assumption that he would become president. And how has he jacked peoples money when he used that money to spread a message successfully? And if he decides to run as a third party candidate, he might have a better chance of getting some focus on him now that he got some shine as a Republican. If people don't approve of either of the Republican and Democratic candidates, they'll have something to choose. Thanks to Ron Paul being in the race for becoming the Republican nominee, people may actually notice him this time around. It's not even about becoming the 44th president of the United States. Thanks to Ron Paul there's a chance the 45th will be better. That's where the money went. Is that so hard to grasp?
Quote from: west coa$t on February 09, 2008, 10:48:35 PMI'm not into politics at all and it makes me sickbut I do know that Huckabeeeee wants to change the Constitution so fuck that guyI feel sorry for all you wasting time with these liars and consif Ron Paul is a con then what the fuck are all the other politicians? hahapoliticians... which are cons with a better chance of winning than Ron Paul. Paul is still a politician too... which is why he just JACKED all that money... and is about to pull out the race, no go 3rd party and he just secured his congressional set with that money. So Paul knew what he was doing all along. He JACKED you guys, and is keeping his congressional seat.
I'm not into politics at all and it makes me sickbut I do know that Huckabeeeee wants to change the Constitution so fuck that guyI feel sorry for all you wasting time with these liars and consif Ron Paul is a con then what the fuck are all the other politicians? haha
Quote from: M Dogg on February 10, 2008, 08:40:28 AMQuote from: Eleven 2 Three on February 10, 2008, 03:41:16 AMQuote from: M Dogg on February 09, 2008, 11:19:43 PMQuote from: west coa$t on February 09, 2008, 10:48:35 PMI'm not into politics at all and it makes me sickbut I do know that Huckabeeeee wants to change the Constitution so fuck that guyI feel sorry for all you wasting time with these liars and consif Ron Paul is a con then what the fuck are all the other politicians? hahapoliticians... which are cons with a better chance of winning than Ron Paul. Paul is still a politician too... which is why he just JACKED all that money... and is about to pull out the race, no go 3rd party and he just secured his congressional set with that money. So Paul knew what he was doing all along. He JACKED you guys, and is keeping his congressional seat.I don't think anyone funded Ron Paul's campaign on the assumption that he would become president. And how has he jacked peoples money when he used that money to spread a message successfully? And if he decides to run as a third party candidate, he might have a better chance of getting some focus on him now that he got some shine as a Republican. If people don't approve of either of the Republican and Democratic candidates, they'll have something to choose. Thanks to Ron Paul being in the race for becoming the Republican nominee, people may actually notice him this time around. It's not even about becoming the 44th president of the United States. Thanks to Ron Paul there's a chance the 45th will be better. That's where the money went. Is that so hard to grasp?read Ralph Nader 2000. All he wanted was the Green Party to gain 5% of the vote to be seen nationally as a major party, hoping that would open a 2004 bid. On top of that Paul is 72, in 2012 he'll be 76, that's OLD. And the issues he brought up has always been there, but no we think... oh his making it larger. Just like the Green in 2000, within 8 years, you guys will move on and become either traditional Republicans or straight up Libertarian.I know your new favorite thing is to say that Paul is Ralph Nader. Great. How are they similar philosophically?
Quote from: Ron Paul = greatest American since Thomas Jefferson on February 10, 2008, 10:13:20 AMQuote from: M Dogg on February 10, 2008, 08:40:28 AMQuote from: Eleven 2 Three on February 10, 2008, 03:41:16 AMQuote from: M Dogg on February 09, 2008, 11:19:43 PMQuote from: west coa$t on February 09, 2008, 10:48:35 PMI'm not into politics at all and it makes me sickbut I do know that Huckabeeeee wants to change the Constitution so fuck that guyI feel sorry for all you wasting time with these liars and consif Ron Paul is a con then what the fuck are all the other politicians? hahapoliticians... which are cons with a better chance of winning than Ron Paul. Paul is still a politician too... which is why he just JACKED all that money... and is about to pull out the race, no go 3rd party and he just secured his congressional set with that money. So Paul knew what he was doing all along. He JACKED you guys, and is keeping his congressional seat.I don't think anyone funded Ron Paul's campaign on the assumption that he would become president. And how has he jacked peoples money when he used that money to spread a message successfully? And if he decides to run as a third party candidate, he might have a better chance of getting some focus on him now that he got some shine as a Republican. If people don't approve of either of the Republican and Democratic candidates, they'll have something to choose. Thanks to Ron Paul being in the race for becoming the Republican nominee, people may actually notice him this time around. It's not even about becoming the 44th president of the United States. Thanks to Ron Paul there's a chance the 45th will be better. That's where the money went. Is that so hard to grasp?read Ralph Nader 2000. All he wanted was the Green Party to gain 5% of the vote to be seen nationally as a major party, hoping that would open a 2004 bid. On top of that Paul is 72, in 2012 he'll be 76, that's OLD. And the issues he brought up has always been there, but no we think... oh his making it larger. Just like the Green in 2000, within 8 years, you guys will move on and become either traditional Republicans or straight up Libertarian.I know your new favorite thing is to say that Paul is Ralph Nader. Great. How are they similar philosophically?Same extreme following, with the same extreme politics, just different sides of the extreme. Same old shit, just a different year. Only difference, Ralph Nader DIDN'T QUIT.
Just like the Green in 2000, within 8 years, you guys will move on and become either traditional Republicans or straight up Libertarian.
M Dogg never stated that they are ideologically similar. He said, "Same extreme following, with the same extreme politics, just different sides of the extreme." Extreme isn't the right word there, but he's saying it's a similar small following just on the opposite side of the political spectrum.
What's the difference between having the same extreme politics, and being ideologically similar?People like Ron Paul should be praised for actually looking to make a change, as opposed to the usual politics of the two big parties. You can be sure the change won't come from Obama; we should be glad there's actually some people out there willing to stick out their necks. Or, to put it in a familiar context: within a few years, you guys will feel either deceived by your candidates who promised change, or you'll stick your heads in the sand like "Real" American. So go ahead, and blame Ron Paul for being different. Yeah, fuck having people who actually express their true visions through democracy, instead of being a bunch of yes-men! Ron Paul should be banned from the campaign!
Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on February 10, 2008, 11:28:48 AMWhat's the difference between having the same extreme politics, and being ideologically similar?People like Ron Paul should be praised for actually looking to make a change, as opposed to the usual politics of the two big parties. You can be sure the change won't come from Obama; we should be glad there's actually some people out there willing to stick out their necks. Or, to put it in a familiar context: within a few years, you guys will feel either deceived by your candidates who promised change, or you'll stick your heads in the sand like "Real" American. So go ahead, and blame Ron Paul for being different. Yeah, fuck having people who actually express their true visions through democracy, instead of being a bunch of yes-men! Ron Paul should be banned from the campaign! I praise Ron Paul for what he's done. Props to him and his followers. The polices in the last 8 years have been heavily favored to the neo-conservatives, apart from the last two. Obama can't bring an extreme change, but you can't deny that he'll have a strong impact in domestic polices. Why? Well he's going to be able to work with a Democratic Congress. Bill Clinton didn't even have that, and that's why it was pretty hard for him to get things done. He's also going to nominate 2-3 Supreme Court Justices. We can't let a Republican take office and nominate even more conservatives to the Supreme Court, it will end up being extremely favored to the right. Roe V Wade can be overturned if McCain gets elected.
Quote from: Mr. Javii on February 10, 2008, 11:47:55 AMQuote from: Eleven 2 Three on February 10, 2008, 11:28:48 AMWhat's the difference between having the same extreme politics, and being ideologically similar?People like Ron Paul should be praised for actually looking to make a change, as opposed to the usual politics of the two big parties. You can be sure the change won't come from Obama; we should be glad there's actually some people out there willing to stick out their necks. Or, to put it in a familiar context: within a few years, you guys will feel either deceived by your candidates who promised change, or you'll stick your heads in the sand like "Real" American. So go ahead, and blame Ron Paul for being different. Yeah, fuck having people who actually express their true visions through democracy, instead of being a bunch of yes-men! Ron Paul should be banned from the campaign! I praise Ron Paul for what he's done. Props to him and his followers. The polices in the last 8 years have been heavily favored to the neo-conservatives, apart from the last two. Obama can't bring an extreme change, but you can't deny that he'll have a strong impact in domestic polices. Why? Well he's going to be able to work with a Democratic Congress. Bill Clinton didn't even have that, and that's why it was pretty hard for him to get things done. He's also going to nominate 2-3 Supreme Court Justices. We can't let a Republican take office and nominate even more conservatives to the Supreme Court, it will end up being extremely favored to the right. Roe V Wade can be overturned if McCain gets elected. McCain wont do shit....but Roe V Wade needs to be overturned. it should be a state issue.It's not about nominating conservatives or liberals to the supreme court, one just needs to be a strict contistionlist and most progressives and neocons are not
Quote from: Machiavelli on February 10, 2008, 12:21:15 PMQuote from: Mr. Javii on February 10, 2008, 11:47:55 AMQuote from: Eleven 2 Three on February 10, 2008, 11:28:48 AMWhat's the difference between having the same extreme politics, and being ideologically similar?People like Ron Paul should be praised for actually looking to make a change, as opposed to the usual politics of the two big parties. You can be sure the change won't come from Obama; we should be glad there's actually some people out there willing to stick out their necks. Or, to put it in a familiar context: within a few years, you guys will feel either deceived by your candidates who promised change, or you'll stick your heads in the sand like "Real" American. So go ahead, and blame Ron Paul for being different. Yeah, fuck having people who actually express their true visions through democracy, instead of being a bunch of yes-men! Ron Paul should be banned from the campaign! I praise Ron Paul for what he's done. Props to him and his followers. The polices in the last 8 years have been heavily favored to the neo-conservatives, apart from the last two. Obama can't bring an extreme change, but you can't deny that he'll have a strong impact in domestic polices. Why? Well he's going to be able to work with a Democratic Congress. Bill Clinton didn't even have that, and that's why it was pretty hard for him to get things done. He's also going to nominate 2-3 Supreme Court Justices. We can't let a Republican take office and nominate even more conservatives to the Supreme Court, it will end up being extremely favored to the right. Roe V Wade can be overturned if McCain gets elected. McCain wont do shit....but Roe V Wade needs to be overturned. it should be a state issue.It's not about nominating conservatives or liberals to the supreme court, one just needs to be a strict contistionlist and most progressives and neocons are notYou're taking an ideal approach to the Supreme Court situation. Do you really want to leave it up each State?