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Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« on: February 15, 2008, 04:37:31 PM »
Ok,here is the thing, i have been watching some Production credits on many albums, like EMinem, D12, Game, and many more, as i make beats too and i am seeing this guy, Mike Elizondo, everywhere working alongside with Dr. Dre and the worst thing is that Mike Plays the most Important part, Bass, Keyboard or Guitar...

It makes me think, what the fuck does Dre do?

IF WEst Side story was produced by Dre, and Scott added THe piano, does it mean that Dre only did the beat and the bass? From my expirience, that wasnt even half hard to do, becoz there was no time restrains or anything....

How we Do, same thing, i am seeing Mike Elizondo here.


Mary J-Family Affair-Dre and Mike again..

Aint Nutting but Music-D12- I am seeing Mike Elizondo play bass and guitar, what the fuck did Dre do? A beat?

Revelation-D12-I am seeing Mike Elizondo here playing Guitar and Bass, what the fuck Dre did? A beat?

Fight Music-D12-Dre, but Mike Elizondo did the Guitar and Bass, what in the hell did Dre do?

List goes on with Nas production, ANd others, Was 2 pac right? Is Dre a talentless Lazy Peace of shit that cant write or PRoduce without people helping him? Did he only get popular due to Creating G Funk, becoz back in 90's it was Big, These days its The easiest thing to produce....

What is worse is that The best Songs on ALl Eminems albums are produced by Eminem himself, i.e Mockingbird, Smack That(AKON),Sing for the moment(Sample), Like Toy Soldier, Till I collapse, Cleaning out my Closet...


I am starting to see why Dre is taking so long to Release peoples albums, why he doesnt write, becoz in my eyes, untill i am proven wrong, i see a Guy thats getting the credit for other peoples work and nothing but a lazy Person.

Just Blaze>>>>>>>>Dre, LIve instruments, amazing sound.
J.R Rottem>>>>>>>>>Dre,live shit, huge talent, Game, Obie trice, Sean kingston.
Eminem>>>>>>>>>>>Dre, Jamaican Girl, Everywhere I go, obie Trices songs.



 

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2008, 04:42:06 PM »
^^I'm sorry to further rain on your parade, but this has been discussed many times..
You are flogging a dead horse if you will
FYI musicians who have worked with Dre, credit Dre as being an INTEGRAl part if not the driving force behind all the tracks that are linked to his name...

Would you say the same for Movie Producers and directors???

If you read the credits it does say who mixed what..and it also credits who played what instruments..just sa you would see in a movie credit..

With this clarification the 'Issues' that you had becomes less of a issue...
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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2008, 04:45:12 PM »
^^I'm sorry to further rain on your parade, but this has been discussed many times..
You are flogging a dead horse if you will
FYI musicians who have worked with Dre, credit Dre as being an INTEGRAl part if not the driving force behind all the tracks that are linked to his name...

Would you say the same for Movie Producers and directors???

If you read the credits it does say who mixed what..and it also credits who played what instruments..just sa you would see in a movie credit..

With this clarification the 'Issues' that you had becomes less of a issue...
On point.
 

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2008, 04:48:44 PM »
I agree with the above statements, a producer is an orchestrator he puts everything together and makes it sound tight, compare these other producers work with Dre and then their work without him and you will see the difference
 

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2008, 04:48:58 PM »
at least 1 haha.... stop bein stupid
 

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2008, 04:53:29 PM »
I had this conversation with Snoop Dogg..

Snoop Dogg: I always tell niggas, I coulda went on some Snoop Dogg shit and just said "Ay Dre, do my next record." and just lock down and be like "Fuck all yall I got the hottest shit on the West, and I'm the reason bla bla bla". But I'm not selfish. I coulda smashed everythang and did that. Cause he's at my disposal. But I'd rather fuck with other producers, other artists, and just give niggas an opportunity that I feel deserve it. Cause if I fuck with Dre, it's not gonna be Terrace Martin, it's not gonna be Battlecat, it's not gonna be Soopafly. All these niggas is gone! It's gonna be Dr. Dre produced by. Even if ya'll produced it! You feel what I'm saying?


Dubcnn: It's crazy you say that though. A lot of people been saying that for a long time.

Snoop Dogg: Nah, but when I say that, it's not disrespect, because them niggas will bring a track that sounds cool, but when he's finished with it, that muthafucka is immaculate. Like for example if you were to hear the Stevie Wonder song that Busta Rhymes brought to Dre before Dre touched it, you would think it's two different songs.


Dubcnn: But he still should get some production credit though.

Snoop Dogg: But, at the same time, Dre didn't take that from Sha Money. And when he was doing that for niggas back in the days, they didn't deserve to have their name in the game like that, because he did all of the work! So what you found a sample and you got a cool little drum file, but he brought the shit to life, so he really produced the track! Producing is bringing the track to life! Beatmakers make beats. A lot of niggas make beats. He produces tracks. So that ain't disrespect what I'm saying. I'm just telling you what's real.

I seen him make tracks from scratch. My whole record the nigga made damn near everything from scratch. "Ain't No Fun", Daz and Warren G brought him the little *sings melody*, that's all they had! Dre took that muthafucka to the next level! Warren G brought in the Donny Hathaway, "Little Ghetto Boy, laying in the ghetto streets." Dre flipped it like "Hold on, gimme that!" Took that muthafucka and made it straight hit!


Dubcnn: So you're saying it's wrong that Daz or Warren G would claim that they didn't get the credit they deserved on The Chronic or Doggystyle?

Snoop Dogg: I'ma say it like this: they didn't deserve the credit back then because they didn't do the work. They made beats, Dre produced that record. Point blank, and I'd say it in they face. They made beats, cuzz produced the record. If you a real nigga in the rap game, you'll understand what I'm saying. I can make a beat, but I can't produce! I can make a beat, but can I tell a nigga what to rap about, can I tell him when to come with the hook? Can you break the beat down? That's what producing is.


Dubcnn: Right, but if I brought in the beat, I would still want my name somewhere.

Snoop Dogg: But, if you brought in the beat, that's all you did, was brought in the beat. You didn't produce this record. This song says "Produced by" not "brought in the beat by". Keep it real! So that's what niggas got wrong, and they started pointing fingers and try to bad mouth him, when in actuality Dre doesn't need ya'll, ya'll needed him! Because this shit ya'll learned from him, that made ya'll better producers. He didn't learn shit from ya'll! See that's what niggas don't understand! Before The Chronic, how many hit records did Dre have before that? Everything he made was a hit record right?


Dubcnn: Right.

Snoop Dogg: How many hits did Warren G make, how many hits did Daz make? None. None. Okay now, look at the tracks that they produced on The Chronic. Did they have any records like that by theyselves? No. You answer the question for me!


Dubcnn: Maybe on Dogg Food?

Snoop Dogg: Come on man! Dogg Food was produced by Soopafly, Daz and Dr. Dre!


Dubcnn: Dre mixed it right?

Snoop DOgg: No, Dre produced a lot of that shit! I'm telling you, Daz and them brought Dre beats, and he produced the muthafuckas! "What Would You Do" was just a beat that Daz had did. That "bu-bump, bu-bump", the nigga Dre put all that shit on it, that *sings* What would you do, whaa *sings* just to give it that other shit! I'm telling you what I know man! Niggas gotta give Dre the ultimate respect. Niggas try to bash him and cut his knees down like he didn't do nothing nigga, he's the saviour man! Because what he did was, he showed niggas how to produce. Because niggas was good at making beats, but he showed you niggas how to produce! If ya'll had really did what ya'll say ya'll did, ya'll woulda put records out that sold 3-4 million on your own, like he did. I still have to see it!

All the records that they put out solo wise, GARBAGE. Warren G's last record, HOT TO DEATH. The records in between, I don't know. And these are my homeboys, I don't lie to you, I tell it like it is!


Dubcnn: You don't like the Retaliation, Revenge & Get Back?

Snoop Dogg: He was dissing me!


Dubcnn: I know, but it was still a good record!

Snoop Dogg: I don't give a fuck! I don't like records with niggas dissing me! What I look like man? I didn't smash him though. I had a record I did with Mack 10 that woulda shut is whole career down. I told him and I let him hear the record, I told him "Nigga, I'm gonna let you get away with this cause you're my little cousin, and you rolling with Suge. I'ma let you get away with it." But in actuality I shoulda smashed his ass and kicked him out of the game, but that ain't the type of nigga I am! I love Daz and I know he was brainwashed! That would've been Suge's goal, to make two niggas lose for the price of one. So that's why I say I never really listen to that record cause I know the nigga was dissing. But it didn't sell no units!


Dubcnn: It went gold..

Snoop Dogg: It didn't go gold. They bought 300,000 copies of that record. See you didn't know that though.


Dubcnn: Nah I didn't know that. That's some crazy shit.

Snoop Dogg: I keep my ears to the streets man. I'm glad you're hollering at me though, my nigga! Cause I feel like ya'll niggas is like the connect to what we do. I'm thankful for ya'll, because if it wasn't for ya'll it wouldn't be nobody really representing this West shit and giving both perspectives. A lot of internet companies just want to promote violence and keep niggas at it.
 

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2008, 05:10:41 PM »
That Interview was the shit i remember!!
 

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 05:14:09 PM »
yeah I remember this interview it was real talk by Snoop, I think other producers like Quik, Premier and RZA have all said similar good things about Dre
 

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2008, 05:20:02 PM »

Eminem>>>>>>>>>>>Dre, Jamaican Girl, Everywhere I go, obie Trices songs.


Wow, that's a bold statement.

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2008, 05:31:18 PM »
Yeah only like a handful of tracks released over a 2 year period. I only skimmed through that and i can tell you're definition of producing is incorrect.



 

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2008, 06:08:30 PM »
lmao eminem makes shit beats. and if you check the credits, he has someone working with him 90% of the time, too.
 

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2008, 06:12:28 PM »
I had this conversation with Snoop Dogg..

Snoop Dogg: I always tell niggas, I coulda went on some Snoop Dogg shit and just said "Ay Dre, do my next record." and just lock down and be like "Fuck all yall I got the hottest shit on the West, and I'm the reason bla bla bla". But I'm not selfish. I coulda smashed everythang and did that. Cause he's at my disposal. But I'd rather fuck with other producers, other artists, and just give niggas an opportunity that I feel deserve it. Cause if I fuck with Dre, it's not gonna be Terrace Martin, it's not gonna be Battlecat, it's not gonna be Soopafly. All these niggas is gone! It's gonna be Dr. Dre produced by. Even if ya'll produced it! You feel what I'm saying?


Dubcnn: It's crazy you say that though. A lot of people been saying that for a long time.

Snoop Dogg: Nah, but when I say that, it's not disrespect, because them niggas will bring a track that sounds cool, but when he's finished with it, that muthafucka is immaculate. Like for example if you were to hear the Stevie Wonder song that Busta Rhymes brought to Dre before Dre touched it, you would think it's two different songs.


Dubcnn: But he still should get some production credit though.

Snoop Dogg: But, at the same time, Dre didn't take that from Sha Money. And when he was doing that for niggas back in the days, they didn't deserve to have their name in the game like that, because he did all of the work! So what you found a sample and you got a cool little drum file, but he brought the shit to life, so he really produced the track! Producing is bringing the track to life! Beatmakers make beats. A lot of niggas make beats. He produces tracks. So that ain't disrespect what I'm saying. I'm just telling you what's real.

I seen him make tracks from scratch. My whole record the nigga made damn near everything from scratch. "Ain't No Fun", Daz and Warren G brought him the little *sings melody*, that's all they had! Dre took that muthafucka to the next level! Warren G brought in the Donny Hathaway, "Little Ghetto Boy, laying in the ghetto streets." Dre flipped it like "Hold on, gimme that!" Took that muthafucka and made it straight hit!


Dubcnn: So you're saying it's wrong that Daz or Warren G would claim that they didn't get the credit they deserved on The Chronic or Doggystyle?

Snoop Dogg: I'ma say it like this: they didn't deserve the credit back then because they didn't do the work. They made beats, Dre produced that record. Point blank, and I'd say it in they face. They made beats, cuzz produced the record. If you a real nigga in the rap game, you'll understand what I'm saying. I can make a beat, but I can't produce! I can make a beat, but can I tell a nigga what to rap about, can I tell him when to come with the hook? Can you break the beat down? That's what producing is.


Dubcnn: Right, but if I brought in the beat, I would still want my name somewhere.

Snoop Dogg: But, if you brought in the beat, that's all you did, was brought in the beat. You didn't produce this record. This song says "Produced by" not "brought in the beat by". Keep it real! So that's what niggas got wrong, and they started pointing fingers and try to bad mouth him, when in actuality Dre doesn't need ya'll, ya'll needed him! Because this shit ya'll learned from him, that made ya'll better producers. He didn't learn shit from ya'll! See that's what niggas don't understand! Before The Chronic, how many hit records did Dre have before that? Everything he made was a hit record right?


Dubcnn: Right.

Snoop Dogg: How many hits did Warren G make, how many hits did Daz make? None. None. Okay now, look at the tracks that they produced on The Chronic. Did they have any records like that by theyselves? No. You answer the question for me!


Dubcnn: Maybe on Dogg Food?

Snoop Dogg: Come on man! Dogg Food was produced by Soopafly, Daz and Dr. Dre!


Dubcnn: Dre mixed it right?

Snoop DOgg: No, Dre produced a lot of that shit! I'm telling you, Daz and them brought Dre beats, and he produced the muthafuckas! "What Would You Do" was just a beat that Daz had did. That "bu-bump, bu-bump", the nigga Dre put all that shit on it, that *sings* What would you do, whaa *sings* just to give it that other shit! I'm telling you what I know man! Niggas gotta give Dre the ultimate respect. Niggas try to bash him and cut his knees down like he didn't do nothing nigga, he's the saviour man! Because what he did was, he showed niggas how to produce. Because niggas was good at making beats, but he showed you niggas how to produce! If ya'll had really did what ya'll say ya'll did, ya'll woulda put records out that sold 3-4 million on your own, like he did. I still have to see it!

All the records that they put out solo wise, GARBAGE. Warren G's last record, HOT TO DEATH. The records in between, I don't know. And these are my homeboys, I don't lie to you, I tell it like it is!


Dubcnn: You don't like the Retaliation, Revenge & Get Back?

Snoop Dogg: He was dissing me!


Dubcnn: I know, but it was still a good record!

Snoop Dogg: I don't give a fuck! I don't like records with niggas dissing me! What I look like man? I didn't smash him though. I had a record I did with Mack 10 that woulda shut is whole career down. I told him and I let him hear the record, I told him "Nigga, I'm gonna let you get away with this cause you're my little cousin, and you rolling with Suge. I'ma let you get away with it." But in actuality I shoulda smashed his ass and kicked him out of the game, but that ain't the type of nigga I am! I love Daz and I know he was brainwashed! That would've been Suge's goal, to make two niggas lose for the price of one. So that's why I say I never really listen to that record cause I know the nigga was dissing. But it didn't sell no units!


Dubcnn: It went gold..

Snoop Dogg: It didn't go gold. They bought 300,000 copies of that record. See you didn't know that though.


Dubcnn: Nah I didn't know that. That's some crazy shit.

Snoop Dogg: I keep my ears to the streets man. I'm glad you're hollering at me though, my nigga! Cause I feel like ya'll niggas is like the connect to what we do. I'm thankful for ya'll, because if it wasn't for ya'll it wouldn't be nobody really representing this West shit and giving both perspectives. A lot of internet companies just want to promote violence and keep niggas at it.

Props Nima. I forgot all about this interview.
 

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2008, 08:18:28 PM »
Jesus Christ! Some people still don't know the difference between a musician and a producer. Quincy Jones is widely regarded as the greatest producer of his era. Can any of you name a song that he played a single note on?
 

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2008, 10:35:49 PM »
Just Blaze-Breath Beat>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any work that Dre ever done...

latest Dre beats -Hot Rod - Be EAsy and Nas-Hustlers, Same repetative boring ass sample, with no Original shit in it at all....

If i am wrong, how come Huge % of People saying that  Dre Fell off, his production been boring or Wack????

I am listening to Just Blaze-Why you hate the Game song, and the production is just phenomenal, it changes, it has a nice sound and its not repetative, And I am listening to Hustlers or Family affair by Marjy J-Same fuking beat and Sound thru the song....

 

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Re: Name me at Least 1 Song Prod. by Dr. Dre without Mike Eliondzo.
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2008, 10:55:55 PM »
Just Blaze-Breath Beat>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any work that Dre ever done...

thats a bold statement