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mellowman

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the rereleased death row albums-peep
« on: May 21, 2001, 01:45:51 AM »
i'm back real quick to give you a few warnings about the new "remastered" versions of the chronic and the entire death row collection. just to give you a few insights on remastered albums. i won't go too indepth but here is a quick lesson. remastering newer albums is virtually useless. old cd technology does not allow for a remastered cd to sound much better than a "regular" version. it does help make older recordings sound better. stuff like motown, or frank sinatra or any older music like that will sound better on a remastered cd than on an older cd, for reasons i'm about to explain. for instance take marvin gaye's "what's going on" album. when cd's first came out an older recording from marvin would have been transfered directly to  cd from the master recordings. since cd's first came out digitally remastered albums were not really possible yet. but now it has been taken as far as possible. now you can take an old master recording of marvin gaye and use digital technologys to transfer the master recordings to cd.the result makes older songs sound better mixed and much cleaner. however, the chronic is only 9 years old. the original transfer to cd was digitally done. therefore a "remastered" version will make very little difference. it will sound a little better on fancier equipment, but not on most stereo systems. the chronic cd you have now is damn near as perfectly mixed., produced and sonically advanced as current cd's (both regular and remastered) will allow. there is only so much you can do to a basic cd. and the reason they could not put very many videos on these things is because the space for information is very limited. now however, we have two new technologies called super audio cd's (sacd) and digitial video disc audio (dvd-audio). these are ready and available for initial release. however, they are still limited in release and the sonic possibilties and technology are still in the early stages. these sacd's or dvd audio allow for 5.1 digital sound. that means you have 2 front speakers, a center channel, 2 surround speakers and a subwoofer. when mixed you can literally place a different instrument in each channel. so dre could  place a keyboard sound in one front speaker, the vocals in the center speaker, a guitar in the other front speaker, a flute in a surround speaker, and the drums in the other, with a bassline in the subwoofer. or any way you want to arrange it. when you hear these new technologies now they sound much better than a regular cd. in a few years the sound will be further enhanced and advanced, the technology will even be further advanced and the way you hear and listen to music will be unbelievable. and with the space for information available on these new technologies you can put an entire album, a documentary and a dozen videos on each dvd. and it will come through your stereo and the videos will be in visually stunning picture on your tv. so my advice is to not waste your hard earned money on a virtually identical chronic cd.instead make a copy of the one you already have. and wait a few years until the sound is much better than anything possible today. peace.
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I take 7 mc's and put em in a line
And add 7 more brothas who think they can rhyme
Well, it will take 7 more before i go for mine
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Re: the rereleased death row albums-peep
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2001, 02:14:05 AM »
another reason for not buying these cd's is simple. if you buy them you have fallen into a neatly placed trap to gobble up your money and put it into the greedy and desperate hands of you know who. don't you see what's going on? "you know who" has released a couple snoop albums, every single uncompleted 2 pac track, a soon to be released album of old doggpound tracks and now a rip off collection of every death row album that does not really sound any better than the cd's you have now. besides that, lies continue to spew from "you know who". disses and threats continue to spew from "you know who". and "you know who" is so desperate and pissed off he is releasing a tape about jennifer lopez that is full of junk and lies to make money off her name and to piss off puffy. and to try and get that to sell he lies and says that he has video of j-lo having sex just to try and sell the tape. but once his bluff is called he pulls back. don't you realize that he has nothing new in the can thats going to sell and the only way he can make money and survive is to release a tabloid style tape of a celebrity and use every single unreleased track in the garbage can made by former artists. he can only make money off tupac, dre, snoop, dpg and making things up. but it ain't gonna work.so DO NOT give your money to a desperate, greedy coward. do not support "you know who". do not buy these remastered albums. do not let him rob you and rip off your favorite artists at the same time. if you wanna listen download it off the internet.if you do not give money to "you know who"it will force him to change his ways or go bankrupt. do not give him any more money. force him to shape it up, force him to quit the lies and disses. force him to be a man. if he changes and releases new, quality, dis-free music by NEW artists then by all means support him. but if he keeps doing what hes doing, don't support him and he will go down in flames. cause if he doesn't change he better get used to the heat and the flames. cause he might be spending a long time around them. but i can't force you to do anything. you have to use your own brain and make your own decision. i just strongly urge you to think things through before you give money to "you know who". now imma sit back and see what happens. my future posts will only talk about real talent and important music. not about a man and a company that is unimportant and a thing of the past. PEACE.
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I take 7 mc's and put em in a line
And add 7 more brothas who think they can rhyme
Well, it will take 7 more before i go for mine
Now that's 21 mc's ate up at the same time
 

Don Seer

Re: the rereleased death row albums-peep
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2001, 03:19:15 AM »
I understand what you're saying about newer albums, and I agree. But... def-jam has released re-masters of things - I have Warren Gs Regulate, and it sounds really nice (yes I have the original too)

If you're really a fan - you've gotta own it regardless.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2001, 04:35:04 AM »
Only reason I am going to buy it is because all of my CDs were jacked last year.....lol and i cant even find any of the Deathrow releases....

I feel where u r coming from mell man...and i am only going to buy the Cd's i dont have......yeah..

"you know who" is filling the heat...and us fiends..have to have the unreleased stuff...hard to get it off of napster nowadays....

but i agree with you..and thanks again for the post
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2001, 07:49:12 AM »
im with mellow
im not giving a penny of my hard earned money to you know who until he releases some dis-free music from the labels newer artists - crooked i, atl etc

to me those early DR albums are perfect already, you cant improve on perfection
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2001, 07:55:58 AM »
  Are people gettin shot for sayin SUGE KNIGHT now or what??
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2001, 07:57:12 AM »
LOL, whats that sayin they got? 'with dead row you never know' or sumthin?

SUGE KNIGHT, there i said it  ;D
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2001, 10:12:40 AM »
they juss wanna make a way 4 ppl 2 Buy their old releases and make more money..

they done FUCC ALL 2 'em..

and Tha Bonus videoz R shit..

ain't no Rare bonuse tracks and tha videoz R tha COMMERCIAL ones.. Eg Nuthin but a G-Thang..

if they had nice bonus tracks like tha next episode and videoz like gin and juice Laid Bac mix..

i'll pick it up in no-time..

i mean i did pick up DMW juSS 4 "MAy-I"

But deathRow HoLd 2 Much From Tha audience...

tha shit they ReLease is not up 2 tha standard of unreleased shit..

i guess their PpL (who r responsible 4 Tha releases) got a bad ear for Music...

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2001, 12:20:08 PM »
the very  sinkable....dead row...
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Don Seer

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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2001, 01:59:06 PM »
Quote

they juss wanna make a way 4 ppl 2 Buy their old releases and make more money..

they done FUCC ALL 2 'em..

and Tha Bonus videoz R shit..

ain't no Rare bonuse tracks and tha videoz R tha COMMERCIAL ones.. Eg Nuthin but a G-Thang..

if they had nice bonus tracks like tha next episode and videoz like gin and juice Laid Bac mix..

i'll pick it up in no-time..

i guess their PpL (who r responsible 4 Tha releases) got a bad ear for Music...


What they're doing is remastering them... thats not 'FUCC ALL' Wannabe Cuzzz..
 

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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2001, 04:15:37 PM »
the re releases are good cause there are a lotta young ppl (like me) around 13 and 14 yrs old,that werent really all that old when those albums came out and its sorta hard to buy most of them b'cuz they are outta print so now we have a chance to buy em
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2001, 01:52:32 PM »
sub makes a good point.....shit......how many times have the beatles been released? or any other old pop artist.....elvis????
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2001, 02:12:35 PM »
Yeah, But You're Missing His Point :)

Well, Part Of His Point Is He Has A Personal Vendetta Against Suge, But I Can Understand That...

Digital Recording Was Invented In The 80's...

The Beatles, And Elvis, Were Recorded On SHITTY Equipment In The 60's... So There's Tape Hiss On The Songs, The Mixes Are Bad To Compensate For The Hiss, Etc.  For Instance, The Beatles Would Record 4 Tracks, Then Mix Those 4 Tracks Onto 1 Track, Then Record 3 More Tracks... Because They Only Had4 Track Machines!  Nowadays, Dre Might Use 80 Tracks On A Song...

If You Go Back To Those ORIGINAL Beatles Tracks... You Can Take The 4 Original Tracks, And Place Them Next To The Other 3 Tracks... Then You've Got 7... You Might Double A Couple, To Make Them Stereo, Instead Of Mono... And You Also Won't Have To Worry About The Tape Hiss That Bouncing The 4 Tracks Onto 1 Caused... Now You've Got Maybe 10 Tracks... Originally, There Were 4, With 1 Track Containing 4 Different Instruments... Once Those 4 Instruments Were Combined Into 1 Track On The New Master, You Couldn't Mix Them...You Could Just Turn All 4 Of Them Up And Down, As Well As Pan Them Left/Right, All Together.  This 4 Tracks Might Have The Original Drums, Guitar, Bass, And Lead Guitar On THem... Then THe 3 New Tracks Would Have Had Vocals, Effects, And Backup Vocals...

So If You Want, You Remaster That Album, And Place The Guitar Far Right, And Turn It Up A Bit.. You Place The Drums Center, And Lower Them A Bit, Bass Far Right, And Keep It The Same... Before, You Couldn't Have Seperated Them, Because The Originals Were Bounced Onto 1 Track...

When Dre Did The Chronic, He Probably Used 60 Tracks, So How Does It Help Him to Remaster?  Everything Was Already Single Tracked Anyways; All They Can Do Is Have Hutch Fuck With It, And Remix It... But It's Not Gonna Sound Much Better... That's His Point...

If It Isn't Clear, Reply, And I'll Explain "Bouncing" More... Remember, 8 Track Wasn't Invented (8 Track Recording) Until '68 Or So, Before That It Was All 4 Track, And in '64 On The Beatles First Albums, It Was 2 TRACK! 1 For Vocals, 1 For The Whole Band...
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Re: the rereleased death row albums-peep
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2001, 02:18:48 PM »
just to let you know the point of my post was not to be negative on rereleasing material. i have no problem with that at all. in fact i wish all older albums (especially 15 to 40 years ago) would be digitally remastered to make them sound as good as possible. i urged you not to buy the death row remastered albums because of who you were giving your money to. if you give money to "you know who" you will be contributing to his plan to rip you off. the artists whose albums you buy will make either very little or NONE from these.the money will be pocketed by "you know who", not the people who deserve it.those people are the artists and producers who sacrificed time, money, and a lot of HARD work to makethese albums. not someone who only sat around being al capone. and the artists will not benefit from the sale of these new releases. and the sound is not much better than the ones you have. it may sound better because your mind tells you it will.but i know the process and i know that these new versions are virtually identical. i know the process because ive done it before. to the people who have scratched versions or younger cats who have not purchased these before i urge you to either copy a friends version or rip from the interet (and i almost never advocate that, cause if an artist makes a great album they deserve to be paid for it). but in this case and who the money is going to i hope you will not give your money to an undeserved person.but again, you gotta make your own decision and if you do buy these i will never disrespect or criticize you for that. its just that this is a trap that you can find a way around without contributing to "you know who's" undeserved pocketbook. peace everyone.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by 1034398800 »
I take 7 mc's and put em in a line
And add 7 more brothas who think they can rhyme
Well, it will take 7 more before i go for mine
Now that's 21 mc's ate up at the same time
 

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Re: the rereleased death row albums-peep
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2001, 02:51:44 PM »
hey mellowman..whats up..u should be relaxin partna...lol...i hear you.........id rather burn or rip or steal it..lol than give my money to you know who....and i sure lots of peeps will do it.....but for the peeps that cant do it....they will buy it.....dead row will fall in time.......take a vacation man..u deserve it...
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