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Quote from: 360 on February 27, 2008, 10:38:36 PMQuote from: Styles1 on February 27, 2008, 08:57:52 PMNobody knows both players strengths and weaknesses better than Phil. Jordan had the heart of a warrior, and the will to back it up.
Quote from: Styles1 on February 27, 2008, 08:57:52 PMNobody knows both players strengths and weaknesses better than Phil.
Nobody knows both players strengths and weaknesses better than Phil.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on February 27, 2008, 07:17:17 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson on February 27, 2008, 05:47:10 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on February 27, 2008, 12:26:43 PM^^What an unexpected response from Hack Wilson. Since you're the expert on this, what do results say? My results say that you're a major Laker hater. Good job.No Kobe=No rings.No Shaq=No rings.No Jordan=No rings.No Pippen=No rings.Now say something worthwhile. michael jordan = 6 rings as the teams best playershaq = 3 rings as his teams best playerkobe = zeroKobe was the best player on the team that lost to Detroit though, he can take satisfaction in that right?Wrong...Kobe was arguably the better player by the time the '01 and '02 run came along.2000-01 regular season / playoffsshaq 28.7 ppg 12.7 rpg 2.8 bpg / 30.4 15.4 2.4kobe 28.5 ppg 5.9 rpg 5.0 apg / 29.4 7.3 6.12001=02 regualr season / playoffsshaq 27.2 ppg 10.7 rpg 2.0 bpg / 28.5 12.6 2.5kobe 25.2 ppg 5.5 rpg 5.5 apg / 26.6 5.8 4.62002-03 regular season / playoffsshaq 27.5 ppg 11.1 rpg 2.4 bpg / 27.0 14.8 2.8kobe 30.0 ppg 6.9 rpg 5.9 apg / 32.1 5.1 5.2Shaq was still dominating, his playoff production didn't go down until 2003-04.now look, i respect Kobe and even will admit that he's the best talent in the game, and he's better than Lebron (at this point). but Kobe is not Michael Jordan as a complete player and probably never will be. It will take building his own dyansty to do that. He's having a great year and the LAkers are playing amazing this year, but I say San Antonio is the best until sent home in the summer.
Quote from: Hack Wilson on February 27, 2008, 05:47:10 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on February 27, 2008, 12:26:43 PM^^What an unexpected response from Hack Wilson. Since you're the expert on this, what do results say? My results say that you're a major Laker hater. Good job.No Kobe=No rings.No Shaq=No rings.No Jordan=No rings.No Pippen=No rings.Now say something worthwhile. michael jordan = 6 rings as the teams best playershaq = 3 rings as his teams best playerkobe = zeroKobe was the best player on the team that lost to Detroit though, he can take satisfaction in that right?Wrong...Kobe was arguably the better player by the time the '01 and '02 run came along.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on February 27, 2008, 12:26:43 PM^^What an unexpected response from Hack Wilson. Since you're the expert on this, what do results say? My results say that you're a major Laker hater. Good job.No Kobe=No rings.No Shaq=No rings.No Jordan=No rings.No Pippen=No rings.Now say something worthwhile. michael jordan = 6 rings as the teams best playershaq = 3 rings as his teams best playerkobe = zeroKobe was the best player on the team that lost to Detroit though, he can take satisfaction in that right?
^^What an unexpected response from Hack Wilson. Since you're the expert on this, what do results say? My results say that you're a major Laker hater. Good job.No Kobe=No rings.No Shaq=No rings.No Jordan=No rings.No Pippen=No rings.Now say something worthwhile.
Quote from: Styles1 on February 27, 2008, 08:57:52 PMNobody knows both players strengths and weaknesses better than Phil. Yeah, but as the dudes coach currently, he's not gonna down Kobe in anyway. He's gonna build him up. Jordan was and probably always will be better than Kobe in everyway. Jordan was the dominating player on his team. He didn't need another dominating player on his team to win. Rookie Season 84-85 (Rookie of the Year):MP FG% TRB AST STL BLK PTS 38.3 .515 6.5 5.9 2.4 0.8 28.2 First MVP Season 87-88 (MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, All NBA 1st Team, All NBA Defensive Team)MP FG% TRB AST STL BLK PTS 40.4 .535 5.5 5.9 3.2 1.6 35.0 5th MVP Season 97-98 (All Defensive, All NBA, AND his 6th Finals MVP. 5 MVP Seasons in 9 Seasons of Play, shit, barely even 8 1/4 seasons). MP FG% TRB AST STL BLK PTS 38.8 .465 5.8 3.5 1.7 0.5 28.7 Kobe 00-01 (All Defensive 2nd and All NBA 2nd)MP FG% TRB AST STL BLK PTS40.9 .464 5.9 5.0 1.7 0.6 28.5 Kobe 05-06 (All Defensive 1st and All NBA 1st)MP FG% TRB AST STL BLK PTS 41.0 .450 5.3 4.5 1.8 0.4 35.4
Quote from: BURNDASHI ERRDAY on February 27, 2008, 11:21:47 PMQuote from: 360 on February 27, 2008, 10:38:36 PMQuote from: Styles1 on February 27, 2008, 08:57:52 PMNobody knows both players strengths and weaknesses better than Phil. Jordan had the heart of a warrior, and the will to back it up.Jordan had the perfect pieces around him every year. That nigga would be 1-n-done too if he was expected to carry Smush Parker, Luke Walton, and Kwame Brown over the Phoenix Suns led by their back-to-back MVP point guard.
Quote from: GangstaBoogy on February 28, 2008, 10:39:47 AMQuote from: BURNDASHI ERRDAY on February 27, 2008, 11:21:47 PMQuote from: 360 on February 27, 2008, 10:38:36 PMQuote from: Styles1 on February 27, 2008, 08:57:52 PMNobody knows both players strengths and weaknesses better than Phil. Jordan had the heart of a warrior, and the will to back it up.Jordan had the perfect pieces around him every year. That nigga would be 1-n-done too if he was expected to carry Smush Parker, Luke Walton, and Kwame Brown over the Phoenix Suns led by their back-to-back MVP point guard. perfect peices?dennis rodman (headcase freak)scottie pippen (probably not considered a top 50 alltime player without MJ)tony kukoc (made more than Pip at one point didnt he?)steve kerr (well, he can shoot 3's...)luke longlyhorace grant (the original goggle eyes)Kobe had SHAQ!! the nigga had Derek Fischer and Big Shot Bobby Horry.one year he had Karl Malone and Gary PAyton
Quote from: Hack Wilson on February 28, 2008, 11:13:13 AMQuote from: GangstaBoogy on February 28, 2008, 10:39:47 AMQuote from: BURNDASHI ERRDAY on February 27, 2008, 11:21:47 PMQuote from: 360 on February 27, 2008, 10:38:36 PMQuote from: Styles1 on February 27, 2008, 08:57:52 PMNobody knows both players strengths and weaknesses better than Phil. Jordan had the heart of a warrior, and the will to back it up.Jordan had the perfect pieces around him every year. That nigga would be 1-n-done too if he was expected to carry Smush Parker, Luke Walton, and Kwame Brown over the Phoenix Suns led by their back-to-back MVP point guard. perfect peices?dennis rodman (headcase freak)scottie pippen (probably not considered a top 50 alltime player without MJ)tony kukoc (made more than Pip at one point didnt he?)steve kerr (well, he can shoot 3's...)luke longlyhorace grant (the original goggle eyes)Kobe had SHAQ!! the nigga had Derek Fischer and Big Shot Bobby Horry.one year he had Karl Malone and Gary PAytonYou're arguing that those weren't the perfect pieces and great complimentary players? You're dissing Pippen, Rodman, and Grant? MJ never had anyone of the same caliber as Gary Payton and Karl Malone? LMAO. PLEASE. STOP. NOW.
perfect peices?dennis rodman (headcase freak)scottie pippen (probably not considered a top 50 alltime player without MJ)tony kukoc (made more than Pip at one point didnt he?)steve kerr (well, he can shoot 3's...)luke longlyhorace grant (the original goggle eyes)Kobe had SHAQ!! the nigga had Derek Fischer and Big Shot Bobby Horry.one year he had Karl Malone and Gary PAyton, who cares if it was past their primes MJ never had anyone of that callibor around him
Quote from: Now_I_Know on February 28, 2008, 11:20:00 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on February 28, 2008, 11:13:13 AMQuote from: GangstaBoogy on February 28, 2008, 10:39:47 AMQuote from: BURNDASHI ERRDAY on February 27, 2008, 11:21:47 PMQuote from: 360 on February 27, 2008, 10:38:36 PMQuote from: Styles1 on February 27, 2008, 08:57:52 PMNobody knows both players strengths and weaknesses better than Phil. Jordan had the heart of a warrior, and the will to back it up.Jordan had the perfect pieces around him every year. That nigga would be 1-n-done too if he was expected to carry Smush Parker, Luke Walton, and Kwame Brown over the Phoenix Suns led by their back-to-back MVP point guard. perfect peices?dennis rodman (headcase freak)scottie pippen (probably not considered a top 50 alltime player without MJ)tony kukoc (made more than Pip at one point didnt he?)steve kerr (well, he can shoot 3's...)luke longlyhorace grant (the original goggle eyes)Kobe had SHAQ!! the nigga had Derek Fischer and Big Shot Bobby Horry.one year he had Karl Malone and Gary PAytonYou're arguing that those weren't the perfect pieces and great complimentary players? You're dissing Pippen, Rodman, and Grant? MJ never had anyone of the same caliber as Gary Payton and Karl Malone? LMAO. PLEASE. STOP. NOW.Jordan never had GREAT talent around him. Pippen wouldnt be shit without Jordan. Rodman can get rebounds thats it, Grant was garbage in my opinion. Kobe continues to have great talent around him, but Jordan meshed his team together way better then Kobe has in the last few seasons albeit this season. But this season, i feel that the Lakers have a great squad but have been injury prone.