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Barack Obama on Hip-Hop... a great interview
Australian Bastard:
good interview...the man echoed alot of my thoughts on hip-hop...
...but if they gonna talk about hip-hop surely they can do better than kanye and jayz! But then again white people tend to scare easy...
.....get Masta Killa and Obama in the same room!!
Australian Bastard:
--- Quote from: Foday-muh'fuckin-Sankoh, bitch! on March 02, 2008, 05:01:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on March 02, 2008, 04:56:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 02, 2008, 01:31:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Real American on February 29, 2008, 03:05:07 PM ---Who gives a fuck what kind of music he listens to?
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With the race for the presidency practically being all about personality instead of about political positions, what else could tell you more about the personality behind the face?
However, am I the only one who thinks Barack really exposed himself with this one? He listens to gangstarappers and then says he doesn't like the message about mistreating women, glorifying wealth and preaching violence. Umm... How much of a hypocrit can you be? I really fail to see the swag in that one. That's chameleon behavior. That's slickness. That's failing to pass judgement and act accordingly. Is that really the guy you're hoping to become the most important man in the world for the next 8 years?
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I listen to Ice Cube and I strongly denounce racism (even towards whites). At the end of the day it's music, to have fun listening to, those guys don't have to be righteous preachers or role-models.
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Exactly.
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Exactly. Can't censor art or free speech baby.
Elevz:
--- Quote from: RETURN OF THE OVERFIEND on March 02, 2008, 08:41:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Foday-muh'fuckin-Sankoh, bitch! on March 02, 2008, 05:01:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on March 02, 2008, 04:56:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 02, 2008, 01:31:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Real American on February 29, 2008, 03:05:07 PM ---Who gives a fuck what kind of music he listens to?
--- End quote ---
With the race for the presidency practically being all about personality instead of about political positions, what else could tell you more about the personality behind the face?
However, am I the only one who thinks Barack really exposed himself with this one? He listens to gangstarappers and then says he doesn't like the message about mistreating women, glorifying wealth and preaching violence. Umm... How much of a hypocrit can you be? I really fail to see the swag in that one. That's chameleon behavior. That's slickness. That's failing to pass judgement and act accordingly. Is that really the guy you're hoping to become the most important man in the world for the next 8 years?
--- End quote ---
I listen to Ice Cube and I strongly denounce racism (even towards whites). At the end of the day it's music, to have fun listening to, those guys don't have to be righteous preachers or role-models.
--- End quote ---
Exactly.
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Exactly. Can't censor art or free speech baby.
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What do freedom of speech and censorship have to do with this?
I didn't say you always have to agree with the music you listen to, but the way he speaks, shouldn't violence and mysoginy totally disgust Obama to a level that makes such music unenjoyable to him, after all that he claims he stands for? That's the whole point. I won't be listening to a song from some rapper going in detail about how he's raped some woman (I don't know if there's any such song, but it wouldn't surprise me). I thought Eminem's song Kim was terrifying. So if Obama is really as strong about his beliefs and ideas as he makes you think he is, how can he chill to a Jigga album, singing along to "nigga whaaaat, nigga whooooo?" only afterwards recapping "Well, they do use the N word a little too frequently" and "something I'm really worried about: it's always talking about material things." If you don't like that, how are you going to enjoy the music, when that's all the music is about? Yeah, Jay got flow, but why not listen to Little Brother if you're about the more loving stuff? Why not dig just a little deeper and find something more fitting with who you are and what you stand for?
I don't believe Obama on this one. His iPod probably is loaded with Isley Brothers and Marvin Gaye, but if he really did enjoy hip-hop he would have been able to come up with some better answers. He probably did hear Jay's album once or twice, but that's about it. I don't buy it. Either Obama has no backbone, or he's a liar. Take your pick, gentlemen!
Australian Bastard:
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 03, 2008, 03:01:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: RETURN OF THE OVERFIEND on March 02, 2008, 08:41:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Foday-muh'fuckin-Sankoh, bitch! on March 02, 2008, 05:01:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on March 02, 2008, 04:56:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 02, 2008, 01:31:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Real American on February 29, 2008, 03:05:07 PM ---Who gives a fuck what kind of music he listens to?
--- End quote ---
With the race for the presidency practically being all about personality instead of about political positions, what else could tell you more about the personality behind the face?
However, am I the only one who thinks Barack really exposed himself with this one? He listens to gangstarappers and then says he doesn't like the message about mistreating women, glorifying wealth and preaching violence. Umm... How much of a hypocrit can you be? I really fail to see the swag in that one. That's chameleon behavior. That's slickness. That's failing to pass judgement and act accordingly. Is that really the guy you're hoping to become the most important man in the world for the next 8 years?
--- End quote ---
I listen to Ice Cube and I strongly denounce racism (even towards whites). At the end of the day it's music, to have fun listening to, those guys don't have to be righteous preachers or role-models.
--- End quote ---
Exactly.
--- End quote ---
Exactly. Can't censor art or free speech baby.
--- End quote ---
What do freedom of speech and censorship have to do with this?
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Everything, that is the domain of hip-hop, its expression.
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 03, 2008, 03:01:28 AM ---I didn't say you always have to agree with the music you listen to, but the way he speaks, shouldn't violence and mysoginy totally disgust Obama to a level that makes such music unenjoyable to him, after all that he claims he stands for? That's the whole point. I won't be listening to a song from some rapper going in detail about how he's raped some woman (I don't know if there's any such song, but it wouldn't surprise me). I thought Eminem's song Kim was terrifying. So if Obama is really as strong about his beliefs and ideas as he makes you think he is, how can he chill to a Jigga album, singing along to "nigga whaaaat, nigga whooooo?" only afterwards recapping "Well, they do use the N word a little too frequently" and "something I'm really worried about: it's always talking about material things." If you don't like that, how are you going to enjoy the music, when that's all the music is about? Yeah, Jay got flow, but why not listen to Little Brother if you're about the more loving stuff? Why not dig just a little deeper and find something more fitting with who you are and what you stand for?
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Yes you are, thats exactly what you are saying, LOL listen to yourself.
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 03, 2008, 03:01:28 AM ---
So if Obama is really as strong about his beliefs and ideas as he makes you think he is, how can he chill to a Jigga album, singing along to "nigga whaaaat, nigga whooooo?" only afterwards recapping "Well, they do use the N word a little too frequently" and "something I'm really worried about: it's always talking about material things." If you don't like that, how are you going to enjoy the music, when that's all the music is about? who you are and what you stand for?
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Heres the thing, hip-hop (including Jay-Z) ISN't all about that, I can't believe I have to explain this on a hip-hop forum. Foday-Sankoh really does exist on this forum for a reason.
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 03, 2008, 03:01:28 AM --- Yeah, Jay got flow, but why not listen to Little Brother if you're about the more loving stuff? Why not dig just a little deeper and find something more fitting with who you are and what you stand for?
--- End quote ---
So you are saying paint yourself into a neat picture? Define yourself until you got a neat dictionary definition. Thats the lamest shit I have ever heard and that mentality is the problem with soo much in the world.
"Oh no! Don't listen to that! That music doesn't go well with my PERSONALITY!!!!! Geee I like my car, my house, my shirt...they all go so well with my SOUL!!!
Fuck all that. Be water my friend ;) Bumping that substance...thats uncontrolled!!!!
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 03, 2008, 03:01:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: RETURN OF THE OVERFIEND on March 02, 2008, 08:41:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Foday-muh'fuckin-Sankoh, bitch! on March 02, 2008, 05:01:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on March 02, 2008, 04:56:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 02, 2008, 01:31:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: Real American on February 29, 2008, 03:05:07 PM ---Who gives a fuck what kind of music he listens to?
--- End quote ---
With the race for the presidency practically being all about personality instead of about political positions, what else could tell you more about the personality behind the face?
However, am I the only one who thinks Barack really exposed himself with this one? He listens to gangstarappers and then says he doesn't like the message about mistreating women, glorifying wealth and preaching violence. Umm... How much of a hypocrit can you be? I really fail to see the swag in that one. That's chameleon behavior. That's slickness. That's failing to pass judgement and act accordingly. Is that really the guy you're hoping to become the most important man in the world for the next 8 years?
--- End quote ---
I listen to Ice Cube and I strongly denounce racism (even towards whites). At the end of the day it's music, to have fun listening to, those guys don't have to be righteous preachers or role-models.
--- End quote ---
Exactly.
--- End quote ---
Exactly. Can't censor art or free speech baby.
--- End quote ---
What do freedom of speech and censorship have to do with this?
I didn't say you always have to agree with the music you listen to, but the way he speaks, shouldn't violence and mysoginy totally disgust Obama to a level that makes such music unenjoyable to him, after all that he claims he stands for? That's the whole point. I won't be listening to a song from some rapper going in detail about how he's raped some woman (I don't know if there's any such song, but it wouldn't surprise me). I thought Eminem's song Kim was terrifying. So if Obama is really as strong about his beliefs and ideas as he makes you think he is, how can he chill to a Jigga album, singing along to "nigga whaaaat, nigga whooooo?" only afterwards recapping "Well, they do use the N word a little too frequently" and "something I'm really worried about: it's always talking about material things." If you don't like that, how are you going to enjoy the music, when that's all the music is about? Yeah, Jay got flow, but why not listen to Little Brother if you're about the more loving stuff? Why not dig just a little deeper and find something more fitting with who you are and what you stand for?
I don't believe Obama on this one. His iPod probably is loaded with Isley Brothers and Marvin Gaye, but if he really did enjoy hip-hop he would have been able to come up with some better answers. He probably did hear Jay's album once or twice, but that's about it. I don't buy it. Either Obama has no backbone, or he's a liar. Take your pick, gentlemen!
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Obama is 46... is too old to have rocked a PE tape and so why do I expect him to get into Hip-Hop. No presidental candidate has even seen Hip-Hop except to bash it... Bill Clinton included.
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