THE REAL PROBLEM WIT THE WESTCOAST!!

[D~Nice]

True but Cube is a perfect example of a artist that does not play the name game for beats. Even if you up and coming, he will give you a shot. WC did that for his album also.

I think maybe him being indie now has something to do with that but yeah its good to see these other producers get a chance to shine

Probably, but at the same time he did have the option of going with more big time producers and still gave others a shot. WC even was sending bulletins for up and coming producers to send beats for this album when it was in the works. It still happens but what many don't understand is on a major it is more of what they want to hear the artists on as far as beats are concerned.

[lost_assassin]

if the production is dope is dope , but we got some huge producers in the west that do stand out. of course dr. dre, dj muggs (my fav., he a legend 2 rite up there wit dre, can name some classics!), dj quick, alchemist, fred wreck, n dj khalil makin a name for him self recently . and artists like snoop get a lot of heat when we talk bout the west cuz to me he the ''it'' guy , he a leader

[dubscheisty]

Yep

[snopafly]

The real problem is that the westcoast is not mainstream enough .. Many westcoast artist is afraid to show mainstream, that can go well with the radio... Another problem is to many westcoast artist sound basicly the same. Many albums seems to be rushed out witout no plan .... westcoast artist that can reach out to the mainstream is snoop, the game , clyde carson, bishop lamont, ya boy ..... i dont beleave in c malone, crooked i .. The westcoast need some revolutionary 

[messi19]

The real problem is that the westcoast is not mainstream enough .. Many westcoast artist is afraid to show mainstream, that can go well with the radio... Another problem is to many westcoast artist sound basicly the same. Many albums seems to be rushed out witout no plan .... westcoast artist that can reach out to the mainstream is snoop, the game , clyde carson, bishop lamont, ya boy ..... i dont beleave in c malone, crooked i .. The westcoast need some revolutionary 

Spider Loc comin Nevuary, 2035. Niggas sleepin.

[Dre-Day]

True but Cube is a perfect example of a artist that does not play the name game for beats. Even if you up and coming, he will give you a shot. WC did that for his album also.

I think maybe him being indie now has something to do with that but yeah its good to see these other producers get a chance to shine

maybe that's not his main intention, but he did play that game, or have you forgotten about Scott Storch and Lil John?
and what about WC's album?  he worked with a few big names too http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150537.0
sure he gave some "fresh" talent a chance, and used their sent beats to "produce" the final product.
i don't know about you, but i certainly don't like that production process; i rather see the producers work with the artists in the studio together.

So you never get to hear what he really had to say ‘cause he’s doing something else to make money.  Then we got all these ways to get music but nobody’s doing no new music, and all we’re doing is recycling old music because the well done run dry.  Those kinds of things concern me more than just what rap is doing.  Music period is gonna be dead!

no offense, but that's exactly what a lot of producers whom cube has worked with/works with were/are doing.
lethal injection and laugh now, cry later are great examples of that.
that doesn't have to be a bad thing, but if that statement really reflected how he feels, then he would have worked with other producers.

ll tracks co-produced by Ice Cube, except "Side Dick.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150537.0

so i guess he should blame himself then as well, since he got production credit.

[K-9]

The real problem is that the westcoast is not mainstream enough .. Many westcoast artist is afraid to show mainstream, that can go well with the radio... Another problem is to many westcoast artist sound basicly the same. Many albums seems to be rushed out witout no plan .... westcoast artist that can reach out to the mainstream is snoop, the game , clyde carson, bishop lamont, ya boy ..... i dont beleave in c malone, crooked i .. The westcoast need some revolutionary 

Spider Loc comin Nevuary, 2035. Niggas sleepin.

Atleast spider will have a decent cd . It aint hard to do a cd with dre 64 impala lines and word to eazy lines . Red bandana around the neck eazy tatto on my arm nwa on my chest im from cedar block but used to claim Santana G-G-G-UNOT Game is joke.For 500$ you can fuck with faggit ass game my dick is hard i cant wait now watch me get fucked doggystyle now watch me get fucked doggystyle.

[messi19]

The real problem is that the westcoast is not mainstream enough .. Many westcoast artist is afraid to show mainstream, that can go well with the radio... Another problem is to many westcoast artist sound basicly the same. Many albums seems to be rushed out witout no plan .... westcoast artist that can reach out to the mainstream is snoop, the game , clyde carson, bishop lamont, ya boy ..... i dont beleave in c malone, crooked i .. The westcoast need some revolutionary 

Spider Loc comin Nevuary, 2035. Niggas sleepin.

Ye you go and jack off to lames doctors stripp advocate cover. It aint hard to do a cd with dre 64 impala lines and word to eazy lines . Red bandana around the neck eazy tatto on my arm nwa on my chest im from cedar block but used to claim Santana G-G-G-UNOT Game is joke.For 500$ you can fuck with faggit ass game my dick is hard i cant wait now watch me get fucked doggystyle now watch me get fucked doggystyle. .

.....okay that was by far in my top 5 for weakest comeback ever...shiiit that shit was bad. Damn that was so bad im not even gonna bother continue with you...shiiiit

[K-9]

The real problem is that the westcoast is not mainstream enough .. Many westcoast artist is afraid to show mainstream, that can go well with the radio... Another problem is to many westcoast artist sound basicly the same. Many albums seems to be rushed out witout no plan .... westcoast artist that can reach out to the mainstream is snoop, the game , clyde carson, bishop lamont, ya boy ..... i dont beleave in c malone, crooked i .. The westcoast need some revolutionary 

Spider Loc comin Nevuary, 2035. Niggas sleepin.

Ye you go and jack off to lames doctors stripp advocate cover. It aint hard to do a cd with dre 64 impala lines and word to eazy lines . Red bandana around the neck eazy tatto on my arm nwa on my chest im from cedar block but used to claim Santana G-G-G-UNOT Game is joke.For 500$ you can fuck with faggit ass game my dick is hard i cant wait now watch me get fucked doggystyle now watch me get fucked doggystyle. .

.....okay that was by far in my top 5 for weakest comeback ever...shiiit that shit was bad. Damn that was so bad im not even gonna bother continue with you...shiiiit

nice try  game stans makes laugh

[D~Nice]

True but Cube is a perfect example of a artist that does not play the name game for beats. Even if you up and coming, he will give you a shot. WC did that for his album also.

I think maybe him being indie now has something to do with that but yeah its good to see these other producers get a chance to shine

maybe that's not his main intention, but he did play that game, or have you forgotten about Scott Storch and Lil John?
and what about WC's album?  he worked with a few big names too http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150537.0
sure he gave some "fresh" talent a chance, and used their sent beats to "produce" the final product.
i don't know about you, but i certainly don't like that production process; i rather see the producers work with the artists in the studio together.

So you never get to hear what he really had to say ‘cause he’s doing something else to make money.  Then we got all these ways to get music but nobody’s doing no new music, and all we’re doing is recycling old music because the well done run dry.  Those kinds of things concern me more than just what rap is doing.  Music period is gonna be dead!

no offense, but that's exactly what a lot of producers whom cube has worked with/works with were/are doing.
lethal injection and laugh now, cry later are great examples of that.
that doesn't have to be a bad thing, but if that statement really reflected how he feels, then he would have worked with other producers.

ll tracks co-produced by Ice Cube, except "Side Dick.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150537.0

so i guess he should blame himself then as well, since he got production credit.

Nah I did not forget about them. But a good bulk of that album he did use up and coming producers from the east and west. WC used Teak and De alot too.

[Dre-Day]

True but Cube is a perfect example of a artist that does not play the name game for beats. Even if you up and coming, he will give you a shot. WC did that for his album also.

I think maybe him being indie now has something to do with that but yeah its good to see these other producers get a chance to shine

maybe that's not his main intention, but he did play that game, or have you forgotten about Scott Storch and Lil John?
and what about WC's album?  he worked with a few big names too http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150537.0
sure he gave some "fresh" talent a chance, and used their sent beats to "produce" the final product.
i don't know about you, but i certainly don't like that production process; i rather see the producers work with the artists in the studio together.

So you never get to hear what he really had to say ‘cause he’s doing something else to make money.  Then we got all these ways to get music but nobody’s doing no new music, and all we’re doing is recycling old music because the well done run dry.  Those kinds of things concern me more than just what rap is doing.  Music period is gonna be dead!

no offense, but that's exactly what a lot of producers whom cube has worked with/works with were/are doing.
lethal injection and laugh now, cry later are great examples of that.
that doesn't have to be a bad thing, but if that statement really reflected how he feels, then he would have worked with other producers.

ll tracks co-produced by Ice Cube, except "Side Dick.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150537.0

so i guess he should blame himself then as well, since he got production credit.

Nah I did not forget about them. But a good bulk of that album he did use up and coming producers from the east and west. WC used Teak and De alot too.

yes, that's why i posted the credits in the first place; i wanted to show you that your statement wasn't correct.

[kuruptDPG]

sum ppl hav mentiond here ther are westcoast artists that hav majority of westcoast producers on the album. thats great if they do but the thing is eithr its not getn promoted enough to be heard or its not that gd.

sum1 said ice cube here, his single why we thugs was producd by scott storch, that trak was worldwide but it aint produced by a westcoast producr.

[Johnny B]

sum ppl hav mentiond here ther are westcoast artists that hav majority of westcoast producers on the album. thats great if they do but the thing is eithr its not getn promoted enough to be heard or its not that gd.

sum1 said ice cube here, his single why we thugs was producd by scott storch, that trak was worldwide but it aint produced by a westcoast producr.

yea, true.

[D~Nice]

True but Cube is a perfect example of a artist that does not play the name game for beats. Even if you up and coming, he will give you a shot. WC did that for his album also.

I think maybe him being indie now has something to do with that but yeah its good to see these other producers get a chance to shine

maybe that's not his main intention, but he did play that game, or have you forgotten about Scott Storch and Lil John?
and what about WC's album?  he worked with a few big names too http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150537.0
sure he gave some "fresh" talent a chance, and used their sent beats to "produce" the final product.
i don't know about you, but i certainly don't like that production process; i rather see the producers work with the artists in the studio together.

So you never get to hear what he really had to say ‘cause he’s doing something else to make money.  Then we got all these ways to get music but nobody’s doing no new music, and all we’re doing is recycling old music because the well done run dry.  Those kinds of things concern me more than just what rap is doing.  Music period is gonna be dead!

no offense, but that's exactly what a lot of producers whom cube has worked with/works with were/are doing.
lethal injection and laugh now, cry later are great examples of that.
that doesn't have to be a bad thing, but if that statement really reflected how he feels, then he would have worked with other producers.

ll tracks co-produced by Ice Cube, except "Side Dick.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150537.0

so i guess he should blame himself then as well, since he got production credit.

Nah I did not forget about them. But a good bulk of that album he did use up and coming producers from the east and west. WC used Teak and De alot too.

yes, that's why i posted the credits in the first place; i wanted to show you that your statement wasn't correct.

I am looking over my posts and I never said Cube had all up and coming producers on his last album. I was just stating that the beats Cube picked for the album were from up and coming producers as well as big names, some from the west even. He even went with a couple familiar faces in LayLaw and Budda.

[Dre-Day]

True but Cube is a perfect example of a artist that does not play the name game for beats. Even if you up and coming, he will give you a shot. WC did that for his album also.

I think maybe him being indie now has something to do with that but yeah its good to see these other producers get a chance to shine

maybe that's not his main intention, but he did play that game, or have you forgotten about Scott Storch and Lil John?
and what about WC's album?  he worked with a few big names too http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150537.0
sure he gave some "fresh" talent a chance, and used their sent beats to "produce" the final product.
i don't know about you, but i certainly don't like that production process; i rather see the producers work with the artists in the studio together.

So you never get to hear what he really had to say ‘cause he’s doing something else to make money.  Then we got all these ways to get music but nobody’s doing no new music, and all we’re doing is recycling old music because the well done run dry.  Those kinds of things concern me more than just what rap is doing.  Music period is gonna be dead!

no offense, but that's exactly what a lot of producers whom cube has worked with/works with were/are doing.
lethal injection and laugh now, cry later are great examples of that.
that doesn't have to be a bad thing, but if that statement really reflected how he feels, then he would have worked with other producers.

ll tracks co-produced by Ice Cube, except "Side Dick.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=150537.0

so i guess he should blame himself then as well, since he got production credit.

Nah I did not forget about them. But a good bulk of that album he did use up and coming producers from the east and west. WC used Teak and De alot too.

yes, that's why i posted the credits in the first place; i wanted to show you that your statement wasn't correct.

I am looking over my posts and I never said Cube had all up and coming producers on his last album. I was just stating that the beats Cube picked for the album were from up and coming producers as well as big names, some from the west even. He even went with a couple familiar faces in LayLaw and Budda.

now where did i say that you did? please read my posts carefully before judging.
i just said that you, using Cube as a perfect example in this case, was not a good choice.
look, i knew what you were trying to say from the start, i just didn't like the way you formulated it, hence the criticism.