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"positive" thinking advocates debate me here....
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: ZiLLA on April 01, 2008, 09:13:30 AM ---oh yeah? show me those songs where I'm bragging.. even if I did somewhere, you could never understand any of it even though you think you have a good idea watching your hip hop documentaries about the streets on your TV screen. We're talking about people's ability to have a positive outlook on life here, stick to the subject.
It is possible for anyone to have a positive outlook no matter how high or low their life has headed towards. It is a decision that reflects on the atmosphere and usually determines where your life will end up.
You wanna talk about major? How bout making thousands upon thousands of dirty money, retiring from the game, then having it bite you in the ass 6 months later by spending 80% of your savings from the past few years on the biggest bail ever heard of to get out of jail for a crime you never really committed but can go down 10 years to life for it. You learn the biggest lesson about karma, and you really have no reason to be happy for shit, but your positive outlook and your faith in god is what keeps you sane. I'm still out on the scene living the good life like nothing happened.
Without a firm decision on feeling happy, you could sit in your room and rot, go for another big score or just end your life. But you have to fight emotions, the brain has the ability to do this, it just needs training and self-control.
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You don't brag about being major in the streets in your song... you do the whole... "Lord get me out the game... Mama, I'm trying to do right but these streets is hard.. gota' sell drugs to feed mama"... and think that passes for deep or something but it really sounds like a Persian dude trying really hard to biuld street cred.
And I was staying on subject. Your the one that took it to personal, like always.
zilla:
Selling drugs to feed mama? bwahahah LOL, just stop.. you wouldn't grasp what some people go through because you simply don't have the ability to put yourself in another man's shoes. Religion is supposed to give you that skill, but it obviously doesn't work for the majority, just look at the world, then look in the mirror. And this thread's a joke, there is no point to it, you're not saying much, all you're doing is confusing yourself even more. The majority of threads you make is out of confusion, it's sad. Take it easy.
Positive thinking might not work for all, but respect the ones that it does work for.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: ZiLLA on April 01, 2008, 04:43:25 PM ---Selling drugs to feed mama? bwahahah LOL, just stop.. you wouldn't grasp what some people go through because you simply don't have the ability to put yourself in another man's shoes. Religion is supposed to give you that skill, but it obviously doesn't work for the majority, just look at the world, then look in the mirror. And this thread's a joke, there is no point to it, you're not saying much, all you're doing is confusing yourself even more. The majority of threads you make is out of confusion, it's sad. Take it easy.
Positive thinking might not work for all, but respect the ones that it does work for.
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This thread was not in disrespect to positive thinkers it was intended to be a respectful debate as you see in the exchange between Tom and I it was you who made it personal.
And I don't know what you mean about walking in other peoples shoes, you asked me "when did I brag about being major" and I pointed it out that you do it in your songs but try to cover it up by saying cliché shit like "making all this doe sellin drugs, Im trying to get out the game, but the moneys too good, Lord help me"....lol, not in those exact words, you find dozens of ways to say the same old shit, not much origionality there.
J Bananas:
Well,
Happiness and positive thinking are not one in the same. Happiness is involuntary, although you can surround yourself with circumstances that are more likely to get that dopeamine flowing and cause you to feel happy. Positive thinking is a voluntary action, one attained with lot's of discipline.
Even though you are correct in that positive thinking advocates embrace false assumptions or fallacies, who are you to tell the that they are wrong. The amount of disinformation in the world is so huge that nobody is above it. Look, you yoourself are even a follower of organized religion, Islam even, which is mosdef top 3 kookiest religions. You subscribe to lot's of bullshit, but it works for you. And that's a lot of what life comes down to. Making it work for you so that you are not miserable.
Positive thinking does not mean that you do not prepare for setbacks, it means you greet them pro actively.
As for wasting time on something by being a positive thinker, the same could be said for any demeanor. Especially the flip side, where you are negative about a lot, you could just endlessly pin and wallow in misery over something that you could have left alone by thinking about doing something more positive.
You are using to many logical fallacies and ignoring too many things in your argument. I get what you are saying but you are just acting ignorant.
herpes:
--- Quote from: Abd. Infinite presents... Real Hip-Hop on March 31, 2008, 09:34:17 PM ---To answer Tom, its not neccasarily that the person may have had a better or worse life. Maybe the "positive" thinker has had a worse life and therefore he has the confidence that he can overcome adversity. Or maybe he has had a better life and so he has confidence that he can be happy cause he knows most of his life he has been happy so he has the confidence that it will come again.
Either way, my point is that it is experiences that determine happiness.
And Rod, I'm talking about real happiness not simply saying you major and this and that so many times that people might believe it and give you cred.
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If your life is full of negative experiences how does that help you have a positive outlook. Doesn't that go against your first post ?
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