Celtic 2 - 1 Rangers

[Sweet & Tender Hooligan]

The title race is on. Im going to put it all on the line right now, the huns WILL bottle it. Celtic have got a bit of fight and passion back since King Lennon returned and the dirty hun monkeys dont like it one bit. First 20 seconds we were in about the cunts, their midfield was non existant. Their best player misses the next game, looks like Bobo will be back.....WE'RE GONNA WIN THE LEAGUE.


Hail Hail.

[Boo-Yaa †]

Was a great game. We were the better team and deserved to win! Think thats got to be one of the best celebrations ever, for me anyway.

I think we threw away the league when we lost to 'well at home Hope im wrong tho!

Rangers sang the big lie once again, Scotland's shame!

[es-jay]

^LMAO at the banner. is that Celtic fans or Rangers fans?

[Boo-Yaa †]

^ celtic fans with the banner pointing at the orcs

[es-jay]

^ celtic fans with the banner pointing at the orcs

that's great.

[K.Dub]

^ celtic fans with the banner pointing at the orcs

[TheDeli]

Was a great game. We were the better team and deserved to win! Think thats got to be one of the best celebrations ever, for me anyway.

I think we threw away the league when we lost to 'well at home Hope im wrong tho!

Rangers sang the big lie once again, Scotland's shame!

Big lie?

Please do tell me what the big lie is? I'm interested in this one

Yet again, a big game at parkhead has incidents of celtic fans being unable to behave, with our doctor being struck by a coin while treating our goalkeeper.

We never turned up in the first, then got back into the game played some nice football and then Carlos gets sent off and we changed our play and tried to hold on for the point with the scum scoring late

April 27th shall be a massive game, that and when the SPL decide to put dates in for our remaining games shall determine the outcome of the title

Hopefully its coming home to the southside of Glasgow 

[wilz]

Im pleased about the riot involving the players at the end of the game. it's about time some passion was injected back into the old firm games.

Did someone just shout "Ricksen, Thompson"?

[Mac 10 †]

Was a great game. We were the better team and deserved to win! Think thats got to be one of the best celebrations ever, for me anyway.

I think we threw away the league when we lost to 'well at home Hope im wrong tho!

Rangers sang the big lie once again, Scotland's shame!

Big lie?

Please do tell me what the big lie is? I'm interested in this one

Yet again, a big game at parkhead has incidents of celtic fans being unable to behave, with our doctor being struck by a coin while treating our goalkeeper.

We never turned up in the first, then got back into the game played some nice football and then Carlos gets sent off and we changed our play and tried to hold on for the point with the scum scoring late

April 27th shall be a massive game, that and when the SPL decide to put dates in for our remaining games shall determine the outcome of the title

Hopefully its coming home to the southside of Glasgow 

How about you get your players to behave themselves before, during and after the game before criticising one of our fans?

In fact how about your get all of those monkeys who were in the other end to stop promoting child molestation?

[TheDeli]

Our players?

What about your own players? McCulloch injured due to a shocking tackle from Hartley.  McGeady pushing Novo just before your 2nd goal, I suppose that they are allowed then?  Both teams players were involved after the game not just ours

Get your own house in order and stop ignoring your own problems, especially with regards to your fans at Parkhead and throwing objects, how can the person who threw the mobile phone at Nacho Novo not be found?

Promoting Child Molestation? Which club had the problem with this issue and what did they do to deal with it? 

Sweep sweep, that carpet has a lot under it by now does it not?

Was a great game. We were the better team and deserved to win! Think thats got to be one of the best celebrations ever, for me anyway.

I think we threw away the league when we lost to 'well at home Hope im wrong tho!

Rangers sang the big lie once again, Scotland's shame!

Big lie?

Please do tell me what the big lie is? I'm interested in this one

Yet again, a big game at parkhead has incidents of celtic fans being unable to behave, with our doctor being struck by a coin while treating our goalkeeper.

We never turned up in the first, then got back into the game played some nice football and then Carlos gets sent off and we changed our play and tried to hold on for the point with the scum scoring late

April 27th shall be a massive game, that and when the SPL decide to put dates in for our remaining games shall determine the outcome of the title

Hopefully its coming home to the southside of Glasgow 

How about you get your players to behave themselves before, during and after the game before criticising one of our fans?

In fact how about your get all of those monkeys who were in the other end to stop promoting child molestation?

[Boo-Yaa †]

Rangers fans use it to point score, simple as, they dont care or even know the facts. Drunk neds sing it in the street without even knowing anything about it.
 
I dont know if you sing it or condone it but it makes me sick.

Just the same as the MINORITY of the Celtic fans who sing about the ibrox disaster.

Both songs shouldn't be sung but the problem is its not the minority with your fans, every rangers fan at CP on wed night were singing the big lie.

"Sweep sweep under the carpet" by the media... Rangers fans continue to slander one of Scottish football legends... yet they fail to report on it.




You can show all your friends on follow follow this, BIG JOCK actually helping your injured fans during the ibrox disaster.

I remember the Ibrox disaster well and still regard it as a terrible tragedy, which like most tragedies could have been avoided had advice been heeded and money spent.

The victims as it happens were Rangers supporters, sixty six poor souls some of whom were children. Nowadays news travels fast, then it didn't. It filtered through slowly and we gradually learned the true extent of the terrible loss of the young and innocent.

It had been a quiet game, all ticket, eighty thousand supporters and just two arrests for drunkeness when public drunkeness at football matches in Scotland , especially at New Year was totally acceptable.However there had been no trouble and two very late goals, one from each team ensured an exciting finish, but not a contributory factor in the ensuing carnage.
Susbsequent investigations showed that those that died were all heading away from the pitch, all in the same direction down the stairways and to the exits when Colin Stein equalized for Rangers.

Those that died, suffered a slow, horrendous death with the air literally being sucked out of them. Crushed limbs, organs rendered useless by the sheer weight of desperate humanity pressing down on them, gasping for life as it ebbed from them.

In the aftermath the recriminations flowed,and after an official enquiry Rangers football club was hammered. One of the conclusions drawn was that the club had been reluctant to take expert advice on ground safety, despite the THREE major warnings in the decade before 1971. Sherrif Irvine Smith severely criticised the men who ran Rangers at the time of the disaster.


He stated that Rangers director Hope's evidence, confused and contradictory, had to be read to be believed.

Two photo images stand out at the time in my mind. The first one is taken outside St Andrew's Roman Catholic Cathedral in Glasgow. We see the proud trio of David Hope, John Lawrence and Matt Taylor, chairman and directors standing next to a bemused Canon John McGuckin.From their general demeanour you wouldn't get the slightest hint that they had been personally held responsible for a catastrophic failure in safety, and were indirectly culpable for the deaths of sixty-six innocent people.

Here below you see a picture of Jock Stein in action at the time of the Ibrox disaster.




Jock Stein came from the mines of pre-war Lanarkshire and in that sense was no stranger to death and the dangers that accompanied such work. Mining communities were tough but they also bred a sense of togetherness and self help. When Jock Stein learned of what had happened after the game, he and several players went to do what they could.

Amid the chaos , the grief and the sheer numbness of the unfolding catastrophe Stein didn't talk, he acted. He acted in a way that others should have done much earlier, to avoid the senseless loss of life. As he stod back and observed Stein saw the mindless folly of sectarianism reduced to its right place, a total irrelevance before the shrouded remains of the innocent.

Jock Stein did the right thing because what he knew was right, because of the values he had and what he stood for. He didn't need to be lectured about what was right or what was wrong.

Big Jock knew, he certainly knew.

[TheDeli]

It is well known that Jock Stein was involved in helping the moving of bodies and helping out on that tragic day 2nd January 1971 when 66 people lost their lives   

I would think that Rangers fans are grateful to every person involved in helping on that tragic day, and fair play to Jock Stein and all other for doing this.

On the whole 'BJK' issue here's an article that opens the whole debate, the person in question was sacked but surely the police should have been contacted at the time for this whole disgraceful episode?

This is not a subject that I am comfortable with, but I will not accept the slating of myself and fellow fans on this board, and the way that people wish to 'big up' Celtic while trying to belittle and have a pop at us. 



Daily Record 18th August 1996

'I couldn't go in the front door and I knew why'

CAIRNEY'S SIDE

THE man who began his Celtic career ferrying wee Jimmy Johnston to games and ended when he was accused of sexual indecency says he is full of bitterness and regret. Big Frank Cairney claimed yesterday that he had never improperly touched or abused any boy in any form or fashion and that he regretted allowing a man who had confessed to him that he had assaulted 14-year-old players to continue to work for Celtic Boys' Club. Cairney -who faces accusations that he abused a young player in New Jersey in 1991 -was the boys' club general manager when Jim Torbett, who had been kicked out by Jock Stein for interfering with youngsters, was brought back in to help with club finances. He admits that he said and did nothing about it. Cairney acknowledges that Stein -who had left when Torbett wheedled his way back into the club -would not have let him anywhere near Celtic Park in an official capacity. Cairney claims that in 1977, at a meeting in a social club in London Road, in front of himself and several members of the committee, Torbett broke down in tears and confessed. "To Jim Torbett's credit he phoned Jock Stein and admitted the offences," Cairney recalls. "Jock called a meeting at Celtic Park, which he chaired. He took all the financial statements off him and led him to the door. Torbett started crying. Jock's words were: 'Never mind the fucking Hollywood stuff' and opened the door and said to him 'If it wasn't for these boys you'd be going to jail for a long while'. He opened the door and kicked him in the backside right out." He continues: "He was cast into the wilderness. The story that was given out was that he was going back to work full time with the Strathclyde Association of Youth Clubs." Yesterday, Cairney claimed that several of the boys, including John McCluskey, told him of the abuse but he had kept their confidences because that is the way they wanted it. Despite this, Torbett was quickly able to re-establish himself at the boys' club and at Celtic Park. At first Torbett was only to be a fund-raiser but he soon began, once again, coaching. "My attitude was one of great apprehension," Cairney says. "Jock Stein would never have permitted it, he would never have been a party to it. Jim Torbett's just had five years with the Celtic Boys' Club -very high profile at Celtic Park. I'm away sitting at the back of the stand having raised millions of pounds for the club, having done a tremendous job for 21 years while Torbett's in the presidential box with two seats." In 1991, following the US allegations, Cairney was cut adrift by Celtic. "They just annihilated me. I don't know to this day the extent of the allegations against me." Cairney does concede that when they were first made he should have called in the authorities to investigate, rather than try to cover it up. "I should have, but I didn't know the seriousness of the allegation, I still don't. I wasn't welcome at Celtic Park following that. The allegations were never put to me by the board or the manager. But I couldn't go in the front door and I knew why." Cairney, 56, a bachelor, denies that he is homosexual or that he has ever sexually abused any of his boys. He claims not to remember Scott Sinclair, who told the Record that Cairney had sexually assaulted him. "I have never improperly touched, in any form or fashion, or abused any boy in any form or fashion. Yes, there were shows of affection, there were shows of joy, there was hugging, but there was nothing improper. I'm an affectionate big man and so are all the players. They have no reservations or inhibitions. But nothing shameful or indecent happened."


An Article from the Daily Record 11th July 1998

Jock Stein covered up sex claims to protect his Celtic

GORDON McILWRAITH

JOCK Stein and the Celtic board covered up allegations made against Boys' Club founder Jim Torbett, it was claimed yesterday. Torbett, who is now accused of abusing three boys while he was at the club, was literally kicked out of Parkhead by Stein, a court heard. But when the claims subsequently surfaced, Celtic manager Stein and the directors were anxious to keep the image of the club clean and nothing more was done about them. The claim was made by former Celtic Boys' Club chairman Hugh Birt, 61, who said he felt "fabulous" when the Daily Record broke a story about Torbett two years ago. Mr Birt told Glasgow Sheriff Court that when he first heard about the allegations he didn't have enough evidence to go to the police. Asked how he now felt about giving evidence against Torbett, he replied: "It's a tremendous relief for me because I have been carrying it about for 25 years." He said he was asked to be chairman when Torbett was "put out" of the Boys' Club. Asked who got rid of him, Mr Birt said: "According to Mr Stein, he literally put his foot up his backside and kicked him out. It was all covered up by Celtic as to why." He admitted that he had a good relationship with Torbett, who returned to the Boys' Club as a fund-raiser several years later. Mr Birt said: "There was a lot of hearsay and it wasn't until Jim came back that I got involved because things started up again." He told how he took the allegations against Torbett to the Celtic board and Stein and even told the then vice-chairman, Kevin Kelly, about them at a meeting in his car. He said: "Although there were people who spoke to me I couldn't go to the police without actual proof of the allegations. When I joined as chairman, I was told by Jock Stein to keep the name of Celtic Football Club clean at all times."



Great manager without a doubt and was very successful and a legend for you lot, but why was he not rewarded with something more befitting than a job with the pools office?

[bez]

Talk about the football phellas, not the bullshit.