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Quote from: Illuminatus Overfiendus on April 21, 2008, 10:12:32 PMIn a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil 'Minstrel Show' Jon nigger.turn the radios up you are now allowed to listen to the radio the real niggers are back on the radioSo you honestly believe if the rest of the album is on par with this type of song. The rest of the rappers will think and say "Gee, I'm using the word n!gga too much, I'ma tone it down".I think every rapper has their quota of the word and nothing is gonna change their rate of using it. Nas isn't accomplishing anything here except from beating us over the head with something we already know and turning it into something way more annoying.
In a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil 'Minstrel Show' Jon nigger.turn the radios up you are now allowed to listen to the radio the real niggers are back on the radio
Quote from: The-Leak on April 21, 2008, 10:22:55 PMQuote from: Illuminatus Overfiendus on April 21, 2008, 10:12:32 PMIn a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil 'Minstrel Show' Jon nigger.turn the radios up you are now allowed to listen to the radio the real niggers are back on the radioSo you honestly believe if the rest of the album is on par with this type of song. The rest of the rappers will think and say "Gee, I'm using the word n!gga too much, I'ma tone it down".I think every rapper has their quota of the word and nothing is gonna change their rate of using it. Nas isn't accomplishing anything here except from beating us over the head with something we already know and turning it into something way more annoying.Read the shit before you post deadshit.
Quote from: Illuminatus Overfiendus on April 21, 2008, 10:29:58 PMQuote from: The-Leak on April 21, 2008, 10:22:55 PMQuote from: Illuminatus Overfiendus on April 21, 2008, 10:12:32 PMIn a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil 'Minstrel Show' Jon nigger.turn the radios up you are now allowed to listen to the radio the real niggers are back on the radioSo you honestly believe if the rest of the album is on par with this type of song. The rest of the rappers will think and say "Gee, I'm using the word n!gga too much, I'ma tone it down".I think every rapper has their quota of the word and nothing is gonna change their rate of using it. Nas isn't accomplishing anything here except from beating us over the head with something we already know and turning it into something way more annoying.Read the shit before you post deadshit. Yes, but the majority of ur post is saying otherwise.. So do you think it's gonna change or not?
Quote from: The-Leak on April 21, 2008, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: Illuminatus Overfiendus on April 21, 2008, 10:29:58 PMQuote from: The-Leak on April 21, 2008, 10:22:55 PMQuote from: Illuminatus Overfiendus on April 21, 2008, 10:12:32 PMIn a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil 'Minstrel Show' Jon nigger.turn the radios up you are now allowed to listen to the radio the real niggers are back on the radioSo you honestly believe if the rest of the album is on par with this type of song. The rest of the rappers will think and say "Gee, I'm using the word n!gga too much, I'ma tone it down".I think every rapper has their quota of the word and nothing is gonna change their rate of using it. Nas isn't accomplishing anything here except from beating us over the head with something we already know and turning it into something way more annoying.Read the shit before you post deadshit. Yes, but the majority of ur post is saying otherwise.. So do you think it's gonna change or not?I seriously doubt Nas is hoping for anybody to stop using the word with this song. I think damn near everybody is missing the entire point of the song.
Quote from: Turf Hitta on April 21, 2008, 11:05:08 PMQuote from: The-Leak on April 21, 2008, 10:51:49 PMQuote from: Illuminatus Overfiendus on April 21, 2008, 10:29:58 PMQuote from: The-Leak on April 21, 2008, 10:22:55 PMQuote from: Illuminatus Overfiendus on April 21, 2008, 10:12:32 PMIn a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil 'Minstrel Show' Jon nigger.turn the radios up you are now allowed to listen to the radio the real niggers are back on the radioSo you honestly believe if the rest of the album is on par with this type of song. The rest of the rappers will think and say "Gee, I'm using the word n!gga too much, I'ma tone it down".I think every rapper has their quota of the word and nothing is gonna change their rate of using it. Nas isn't accomplishing anything here except from beating us over the head with something we already know and turning it into something way more annoying.Read the shit before you post deadshit. Yes, but the majority of ur post is saying otherwise.. So do you think it's gonna change or not?I seriously doubt Nas is hoping for anybody to stop using the word with this song. I think damn near everybody is missing the entire point of the song.What is the point of the song then?
with sum much criticism over the hook, am i the only one who remembers NWA doing this same exact thing on the 'efi4lzaggin' album over 15 years ago? hardly a new concept
So do you think it's gonna change or not?
hahah eye just laugh at all these responses. if this board is truly all white people (which eye dont even believe because if its all europens how come eye dont see nothing in any european languages).
that Nas should be ashamed of himself. it aint like we dont got enough of ya walkin around tryin to be cool by sayin "nigga". now Nas coming out with this bullshit with weak rhymes on top of that. eye am sorry but this whole "nigger" album shit is all for the dough and publicity congratz Nas you just sold your soul to the devil to make these pale face crackers happy and give them something to laugh at us about.fuckin bullshit
[...] We hear the word 'nigger' so much already in rap music. It ain't no thing to hear that word thrown around in a rap song, thats what NaS is demonstrating with the chorus.NaS is trying to milk the word for all it's worth, BUT, thats nothing that rappers have not done before, the difference is NaS will do it with more intelligence and insight than your average rapper and do it with substance, his shit make you think [...]In a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil Jon 'Minstrel Show' nigger.
Quote from: The-Leak on April 21, 2008, 10:51:49 PMSo do you think it's gonna change or not?Seriously, my posts are not that hard to follow or comprehend. You can't expect a yes or no/good or bad/black or white answer to such a complex social issue, because there isn't one. Nas is not guaranteed to change shit. But the point is not to change shit, because you can't expect rappers or anybody to do your thinking for you. The point is to get people to start using their brains and to stimulate debate within people's own minds. Thats Hip-Hop.As I said thats the difference I see between Nas and the horrendous writhing mass of whack rappers, whack rappers will simply make a song based off the word 'nigger', about killing niggaz or how niggaz be gettin they paper ( in conjunction with 'bling' or 'swag', etc) to appeal to the most base of human emotions and thoughts, whereas you got cats like Nas who will say 'OK. if its all about the N-word then lets do the N-word' and do something hard hitting, thought provoking with it, thats what NaS is like...(and a minority of other respectable artists). I guess what Job is getting at is that he is probably sick of the 'N-word' being such a big thing in general, which I find understandable, even if Nas means it to be thought provoking. before black im first human-Wyclef JeanPEACE.
Besides, I think Nas is doing a good job when it comes to making people aware of what they do, how they do it and why they do it. If a black guy calls his friends niggas - why the hell would you use a racially charged word to address your friends? Regardless of whether you mean it in a positive way - it doesn't change the word. If you want to get rid of the negativity surrounding the words nigger and nigga, better not use the word at all instead of reminding people of it all the time.
And the bling/killing rap you talk about from whack wrappers.. Half of this song is just that. "uzi on my nightstand" "ill put u in the casket" "my clique still real QB gangstas" "faster cars than nasa" Same fuckin shit.
Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on April 22, 2008, 03:18:09 AMBesides, I think Nas is doing a good job when it comes to making people aware of what they do, how they do it and why they do it. If a black guy calls his friends niggas - why the hell would you use a racially charged word to address your friends? Regardless of whether you mean it in a positive way - it doesn't change the word. If you want to get rid of the negativity surrounding the words nigger and nigga, better not use the word at all instead of reminding people of it all the time.Exactly, if Nas is doing anything here it's promoting the use of the word by dropping it so many times. Dudes already know wtf they doing when they holler that shit. You either don't think anything negative of it already, or u have a higher respect and don't use it. This song isn't gonna make anyone stop using it. It's an A/B choice u have to live with. I see Nas' intent with this, but he totally went about it the wrong way. He should have wrote a song describing how the word is affecting people, not just beating us over the heads with it thinking we will get sick of it..
Quote from: Illuminatus Overfiendus on April 22, 2008, 02:35:42 AMQuote from: The-Leak on April 21, 2008, 10:51:49 PMSo do you think it's gonna change or not?Seriously, my posts are not that hard to follow or comprehend. You can't expect a yes or no/good or bad/black or white answer to such a complex social issue, because there isn't one. Nas is not guaranteed to change shit. But the point is not to change shit, because you can't expect rappers or anybody to do your thinking for you. The point is to get people to start using their brains and to stimulate debate within people's own minds. Thats Hip-Hop.As I said thats the difference I see between Nas and the horrendous writhing mass of whack rappers, whack rappers will simply make a song based off the word 'nigger', about killing niggaz or how niggaz be gettin they paper ( in conjunction with 'bling' or 'swag', etc) to appeal to the most base of human emotions and thoughts, whereas you got cats like Nas who will say 'OK. if its all about the N-word then lets do the N-word' and do something hard hitting, thought provoking with it, thats what NaS is like...(and a minority of other respectable artists). I guess what Job is getting at is that he is probably sick of the 'N-word' being such a big thing in general, which I find understandable, even if Nas means it to be thought provoking. before black im first human-Wyclef JeanPEACE.Okay, but I'm trying to say it's not gonna provoke thoughts. I listen to this track.. Oh Nas wants to use the word n*gger as an example.. that hasnt been done? It has. Numerous rappers speak on it. I don't see why how Nas can do a whole song about it and ppl are so fuckin hyped about it? And the bling/killing rap you talk about from whack wrappers.. Half of this song is just that. "uzi on my nightstand" "ill put u in the casket" "my clique still real QB gangstas" "faster cars than nasa" Same fuckin shit. Maybe if you were tremendously smoked out u would stop and think about this track as something fresh. But to me it's just going overboard on a topic we are already very aware of..