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Quote from: Johnny B on May 06, 2008, 06:57:31 PMQuote from: Styles1 on May 06, 2008, 06:49:34 PMQuote from: Johnny B on May 06, 2008, 06:47:21 PMQuote from: Styles1 on May 06, 2008, 06:45:02 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.I'd say the Lakers finishing in first place of the Western Conference. But thats my opinion... and apparantly those of the writers association that vote. Paul did a good job, but there can only be one MVP and this was Kobe's year. Paul will have his chance in the future (if he can keep it up). Jrome has a point though. you know that Gasol is responsible for making the Lakers contenders again.and Odom had a breakout season. where's the love for him?every team has a person that helps.... you mean to tell me that Paul gets all of the credit for the Hornets and David West doesn't? He's had a break out year... and without his contribution they wouldn't have won a lot of those games.... fact is.... Kobe is the glue that holds the Lakers together and their motivating factor... Gasol or not, they don't win without him. Who do you think takes over the 4th quarter for the Lakers? West didn't even put up 20 and 10 and Kobe had Bynum helping early on.West was a borderline all-star. he didn't even deserve making the team over some guys (Baron Davis, etc.)I'm not hating on Kobe at all and think he's one of the greatest players to ever play, but no one picked NO to finish higher than maybe 5th in the west.point being, take Paul off NO and take Kobe off LA, and Lakers will probably win more games when it's all said and done.First off, West was a key contributor in Paul having an MVP-type season... call him a borderline all-star if you will, but he was a key component for that team and they would have lost quite a few of those games without his play. Granted if you take Kobe off of the Lakers and Paul off of the Hornets they would lose games.... a shit load of games... who would lose more? I don't know...and neither do you. We can try to guess, but there is no certainty. As for nobody picking the Hornets to go higher? Who cares? The Lakers weren't exactly scaring any teams when the season started. Bynum didn't even start to blossum right away this season. The team was still known as Kobe and a bunch of other dudes. Expectations for the team were so low that the captain even wanted to quit right before the season.... Anyway... I don't even know why I'm going back and forth? The MVP is settled for this year and no debating can change anything. Better luck for your dude next year....
Quote from: Styles1 on May 06, 2008, 06:49:34 PMQuote from: Johnny B on May 06, 2008, 06:47:21 PMQuote from: Styles1 on May 06, 2008, 06:45:02 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.I'd say the Lakers finishing in first place of the Western Conference. But thats my opinion... and apparantly those of the writers association that vote. Paul did a good job, but there can only be one MVP and this was Kobe's year. Paul will have his chance in the future (if he can keep it up). Jrome has a point though. you know that Gasol is responsible for making the Lakers contenders again.and Odom had a breakout season. where's the love for him?every team has a person that helps.... you mean to tell me that Paul gets all of the credit for the Hornets and David West doesn't? He's had a break out year... and without his contribution they wouldn't have won a lot of those games.... fact is.... Kobe is the glue that holds the Lakers together and their motivating factor... Gasol or not, they don't win without him. Who do you think takes over the 4th quarter for the Lakers? West didn't even put up 20 and 10 and Kobe had Bynum helping early on.West was a borderline all-star. he didn't even deserve making the team over some guys (Baron Davis, etc.)I'm not hating on Kobe at all and think he's one of the greatest players to ever play, but no one picked NO to finish higher than maybe 5th in the west.point being, take Paul off NO and take Kobe off LA, and Lakers will probably win more games when it's all said and done.
Quote from: Johnny B on May 06, 2008, 06:47:21 PMQuote from: Styles1 on May 06, 2008, 06:45:02 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.I'd say the Lakers finishing in first place of the Western Conference. But thats my opinion... and apparantly those of the writers association that vote. Paul did a good job, but there can only be one MVP and this was Kobe's year. Paul will have his chance in the future (if he can keep it up). Jrome has a point though. you know that Gasol is responsible for making the Lakers contenders again.and Odom had a breakout season. where's the love for him?every team has a person that helps.... you mean to tell me that Paul gets all of the credit for the Hornets and David West doesn't? He's had a break out year... and without his contribution they wouldn't have won a lot of those games.... fact is.... Kobe is the glue that holds the Lakers together and their motivating factor... Gasol or not, they don't win without him. Who do you think takes over the 4th quarter for the Lakers?
Quote from: Styles1 on May 06, 2008, 06:45:02 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.I'd say the Lakers finishing in first place of the Western Conference. But thats my opinion... and apparantly those of the writers association that vote. Paul did a good job, but there can only be one MVP and this was Kobe's year. Paul will have his chance in the future (if he can keep it up). Jrome has a point though. you know that Gasol is responsible for making the Lakers contenders again.and Odom had a breakout season. where's the love for him?
Quote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.I'd say the Lakers finishing in first place of the Western Conference. But thats my opinion... and apparantly those of the writers association that vote. Paul did a good job, but there can only be one MVP and this was Kobe's year. Paul will have his chance in the future (if he can keep it up).
What's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.
Quote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 10:37:33 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on May 06, 2008, 09:14:25 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.what the fuck are you talking about, now? seriously? The Hornets have some great players...Peja Stojakavic is a former all-star who regained his form this season. David West is former college player of the year. Tyson Chandler is one of the best centers in the league. Byron Scott is a great coach...Seriously, now, take your Kobe-hater goggles off and admit that not only did Kobe deserve this MVP, but that it's sad that it's his first one.I'll take off my Kobe-Hater-Goggles if you'll remove Kobe's cock from your mouth.Kobe has been the best player in the league for years. If that was the name of the award, he shoulda had that shit for like 5 years straight. But it's the Most Valuable Player. NOBODY thought NO was a 50+ win team, nobody saw them sitting on top of the West up until the last game of the season. And even after we all witnessed that, NOBODY saw them opening 2-0 against the defending champs. Not only did no one see them putting up 50+ wins, but especially not if the caveat was that only 50 win teams were making the playoffs this year in the west.Paul put up freakish numbers and converted nearly everybody on his team into overachiever status. Whenever he was on The Tonight Show, all of his teammates were there supporting him. They're also known to be on set for interviews or commercials. He is the quintessential teammate - his guys truly like him and vice versa. Laker players give Kobe mad props, but it's mostly just ass-kissing out of fear. More along the lines of "Yes, he is a freaking amazing player, but a shitty teammate."Anybody who even halfway follows the NBA would have told you that going into this season the Lakers were a dangerous team. Why is that? Because Kobe was gonna get so much better? Fuck no, it was because of the way Bynum had finally started to develop. They were scary at that point, and then throw in Gasol? ShiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitI don't give a flying fuck if you guys think Kobe should have got it in years prior. Just because the idiots in the media didn't get it right in the past doesn't give them the right to award it to him this year to rectify the situation. I swear to God that's the only arguement I hear "Yeah but he's deserved it in the past, so it's ok to give it to him this year". How the fuck does that remotely make sense?You don't seem too knowledgeable on the situation, sunny. Kobe is having the best season of his career, and whether he's playing with legit teammates or not, he's been the MVP for some time now, helping his team more than ANY other player, without a shadow of a doubt. Yea, we got Pau Gasol midseason, but we had the top record in the west even before that. Kobe's drive and fierce competitiveness is what instills the will in players like Bynum to work on their game, to attain that same drive, and maximize their potential. Did Chris Paul not get Stojakovic back? and for you to say that Kobe's teammates think he's a shitty teammate just proves how fuckin ignorant you are. Kobe is close to all his teammates.. the chemistry of the team is amazing. Everyone is mad cool with everyone, on and off the court. Going into the season, people thought the Lakers were in more shit than the Hornets. Analysts were predicting we'd miss the playoffs left and right. The argument isn't that he shoulda got it in the past. The argument is that he's the best player in the game, on the best team in the game, playing his best season yet.Kobe Bryant is no doubt the MVP.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on May 06, 2008, 09:14:25 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.what the fuck are you talking about, now? seriously? The Hornets have some great players...Peja Stojakavic is a former all-star who regained his form this season. David West is former college player of the year. Tyson Chandler is one of the best centers in the league. Byron Scott is a great coach...Seriously, now, take your Kobe-hater goggles off and admit that not only did Kobe deserve this MVP, but that it's sad that it's his first one.I'll take off my Kobe-Hater-Goggles if you'll remove Kobe's cock from your mouth.Kobe has been the best player in the league for years. If that was the name of the award, he shoulda had that shit for like 5 years straight. But it's the Most Valuable Player. NOBODY thought NO was a 50+ win team, nobody saw them sitting on top of the West up until the last game of the season. And even after we all witnessed that, NOBODY saw them opening 2-0 against the defending champs. Not only did no one see them putting up 50+ wins, but especially not if the caveat was that only 50 win teams were making the playoffs this year in the west.Paul put up freakish numbers and converted nearly everybody on his team into overachiever status. Whenever he was on The Tonight Show, all of his teammates were there supporting him. They're also known to be on set for interviews or commercials. He is the quintessential teammate - his guys truly like him and vice versa. Laker players give Kobe mad props, but it's mostly just ass-kissing out of fear. More along the lines of "Yes, he is a freaking amazing player, but a shitty teammate."Anybody who even halfway follows the NBA would have told you that going into this season the Lakers were a dangerous team. Why is that? Because Kobe was gonna get so much better? Fuck no, it was because of the way Bynum had finally started to develop. They were scary at that point, and then throw in Gasol? ShiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitI don't give a flying fuck if you guys think Kobe should have got it in years prior. Just because the idiots in the media didn't get it right in the past doesn't give them the right to award it to him this year to rectify the situation. I swear to God that's the only arguement I hear "Yeah but he's deserved it in the past, so it's ok to give it to him this year". How the fuck does that remotely make sense?
Quote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.what the fuck are you talking about, now? seriously? The Hornets have some great players...Peja Stojakavic is a former all-star who regained his form this season. David West is former college player of the year. Tyson Chandler is one of the best centers in the league. Byron Scott is a great coach...Seriously, now, take your Kobe-hater goggles off and admit that not only did Kobe deserve this MVP, but that it's sad that it's his first one.
This year CP3 shoulda got it, but Kobe deserved it last year so I guess it is what it is. I have no idea how they gave it to Dirk last year though. Damn shame.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on May 06, 2008, 11:26:44 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 10:37:33 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on May 06, 2008, 09:14:25 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.what the fuck are you talking about, now? seriously? The Hornets have some great players...Peja Stojakavic is a former all-star who regained his form this season. David West is former college player of the year. Tyson Chandler is one of the best centers in the league. Byron Scott is a great coach...Seriously, now, take your Kobe-hater goggles off and admit that not only did Kobe deserve this MVP, but that it's sad that it's his first one.I'll take off my Kobe-Hater-Goggles if you'll remove Kobe's cock from your mouth.Kobe has been the best player in the league for years. If that was the name of the award, he shoulda had that shit for like 5 years straight. But it's the Most Valuable Player. NOBODY thought NO was a 50+ win team, nobody saw them sitting on top of the West up until the last game of the season. And even after we all witnessed that, NOBODY saw them opening 2-0 against the defending champs. Not only did no one see them putting up 50+ wins, but especially not if the caveat was that only 50 win teams were making the playoffs this year in the west.Paul put up freakish numbers and converted nearly everybody on his team into overachiever status. Whenever he was on The Tonight Show, all of his teammates were there supporting him. They're also known to be on set for interviews or commercials. He is the quintessential teammate - his guys truly like him and vice versa. Laker players give Kobe mad props, but it's mostly just ass-kissing out of fear. More along the lines of "Yes, he is a freaking amazing player, but a shitty teammate."Anybody who even halfway follows the NBA would have told you that going into this season the Lakers were a dangerous team. Why is that? Because Kobe was gonna get so much better? Fuck no, it was because of the way Bynum had finally started to develop. They were scary at that point, and then throw in Gasol? ShiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitI don't give a flying fuck if you guys think Kobe should have got it in years prior. Just because the idiots in the media didn't get it right in the past doesn't give them the right to award it to him this year to rectify the situation. I swear to God that's the only arguement I hear "Yeah but he's deserved it in the past, so it's ok to give it to him this year". How the fuck does that remotely make sense?You don't seem too knowledgeable on the situation, sunny. Kobe is having the best season of his career, and whether he's playing with legit teammates or not, he's been the MVP for some time now, helping his team more than ANY other player, without a shadow of a doubt. Yea, we got Pau Gasol midseason, but we had the top record in the west even before that. Kobe's drive and fierce competitiveness is what instills the will in players like Bynum to work on their game, to attain that same drive, and maximize their potential. Did Chris Paul not get Stojakovic back? and for you to say that Kobe's teammates think he's a shitty teammate just proves how fuckin ignorant you are. Kobe is close to all his teammates.. the chemistry of the team is amazing. Everyone is mad cool with everyone, on and off the court. Going into the season, people thought the Lakers were in more shit than the Hornets. Analysts were predicting we'd miss the playoffs left and right. The argument isn't that he shoulda got it in the past. The argument is that he's the best player in the game, on the best team in the game, playing his best season yet.Kobe Bryant is no doubt the MVP.You don't seem too knowledgeable in general, bitch. If there was no doubt of Kobe being the MVP nobody else would have gotten votes.
Quote from: Turf Hitta on May 07, 2008, 04:32:37 PMThis year CP3 shoulda got it, but Kobe deserved it last year so I guess it is what it is. I have no idea how they gave it to Dirk last year though. Damn shame.Cuz the Mavs won 67 games. If the guideline for MVP is "best player on one of the best teams" then I'm fine with that. The MVP voters stuck with that this year so I won't complain.