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Quote from: Foday-muh'fuckin-Sankoh, bitch! on June 14, 2008, 08:00:47 AM..the Bible and was astonished at all the bullshit...Yet it's one of the most influential books that built this f'in world. From words, from sayings everyday people USE, to fuckin' scientific theories. 'Yeah, we came from living organisms out the ground'Yeah? Yeahhh? No shit sherlock, we was made from the dust of the ground. If you don't want to believe the Bible, don't be so close.And don't come back wit it being how 'logic' it is, how we formed into humans from organisms, becuz it looks like God was a little logical too.
..the Bible and was astonished at all the bullshit...
The Bible was written by humans. So even if what they are talking about happened, it is all but into the perspective and bias of the people who wrote it. People sat down and decided what should be put into the book. What is so sacred about that? Same with any religious book. But you can't necessarily write it off completely, because it is still a historical document. All that stuff Eihtball was talking about regarding homosexuals, Sabbath breakers, etc. was written by people who at the time agreed with that message and put it in the Bible. It serves as no meaning as to the nature of God or whether he exists.As far as life after death. I think all the evidence I need to believe it is from life itself. We couldn't have just got here without someone or something putting us here. The universe was never just "there". It had to be created and shaped by some force.
Quote from: QuietTruth on June 14, 2008, 08:23:21 AMQuote from: Foday-muh'fuckin-Sankoh, bitch! on June 14, 2008, 08:00:47 AM..the Bible and was astonished at all the bullshit...Yet it's one of the most influential books that built this f'in world. From words, from sayings everyday people USE, to fuckin' scientific theories. 'Yeah, we came from living organisms out the ground'Yeah? Yeahhh? No shit sherlock, we was made from the dust of the ground. If you don't want to believe the Bible, don't be so close.And don't come back wit it being how 'logic' it is, how we formed into humans from organisms, becuz it looks like God was a little logical too.LOL, you're a barely-literate wigger with almost no future prospects in life, and yet you have the nerve to question science? Boy, you got no idea what you're up against right now...
Atheism just doesn't make no sense to me. Not to be disrespectful at all, but, I mean it doesn't..
You die, than what?
Religion is a crutch. Simple as that. People can't accept the fact we are just another species, which will one day die out.
Free will exists. Right this second, I could sit here and continue writing, or I could go outside and murder someone. We all have choices, and destiny as they call it, doesn't really exist.
Which is why I prefer Islam, because as many agree, if you don't follow the Koran every second of you're life, you're not a Muslim. Most Muslims tend to not sin, rather then sin, and feeling bad about it later. The Koran is your life, it tells you how to live a good life. The Bible doesn't, it tells you, you can live a horrible evil life, as long as you feel bad about it.
Religion is a crutch. Simple as that. People can't accept the fact we are just another species, which will one day die out. People need to feel like their's a purpose to their lives, they need to know when they die, thei'rs something after. Well, we'll never know, because when you're dead, you're dead. Back when the Bible was written, it explained the unknown. Now, scieince and physical observation have answered some of our questions, like Cosmology, Evolution, etc.I tend to believe that as a species, we have a purpose. That purpose is the progression of science and knowledge. If everyone person has a purpose, then why do some go out and murder random individuals? What purpose is that? Oh.. It's god's will. No. Free will exists. Right this second, I could sit here and continue writing, or I could go outside and murder someone. We all have choices, and destiny as they call it, doesn't really exist. QuoteAtheism just doesn't make no sense to me. Not to be disrespectful at all, but, I mean it doesn't..Many people often confuse Atheists with Agnostics. If believing in god gets you through you're day, then that's fine. But a persons faith should be private, and their actions affecting other people should be independent of that faith. Too many times does religion interfere with science and politics. Bush says he looks to God for guidance. Really.. did God tell him going into Iraq was a good idea? Organized religion, and the actions of some individuals really bothers me. A man who murders his wife can call himself a Christian, and a soldier of God. Same as a housewife making an apple pie.Many people follow the Bible without question. It's the Bible, it's true, end of story. Like Evolution, for example. Evolution never happened because God says so. Or the earth was created 3000 years ago. Well, I'll show you a 3 billion year old fossil, where the fuck did that come from? Where did all the oil come from? God? It's about common sense versus religious beliefs. Common sense says one thing. The Bible says the opposite. Why do people believe in something they can't even see? Because their not smart enough, or open minded enough, to educate themselves on the truth. It's pretty easy to say, God did it, compared to getting a degree in Evolutionary Biology. But that's how many people think these days.Open a Science text book, you can read something, then go out somewhere, and reproduce the observation, or result. Open the Bible, read it, and try to find any sort of proof. You won't find it. People can believe in a higher power, but why does that higher power need to be God. Can't a higher power simply be striving to be a good person? The Bible, the Koran, whatever, it gives people false hope. It gives people something they can believe in, whether it's real or not. I would like to believe "24" is a real life ride along with a anti-terrorist agent. But my brain says, "No... it's just a story." And that's what the Bible is, a story. Faith can be a great thing, which strives people to do good things. But more often then not, you're average Christian is beating his wife, or sleeping with his secretary, or lying to his children. Organized religion doesn't make sense. How is Bush a Christian, if he lied to the world about invading Iraq. It doesn't make sense. How can you just ignore the Bible when it's inconvenient, then just repent you're sins later. Which is why I prefer Islam, because as many agree, if you don't follow the Koran every second of you're life, you're not a Muslim. Most Muslims tend to not sin, rather then sin, and feeling bad about it later. The Koran is your life, it tells you how to live a good life. The Bible doesn't, it tells you, you can live a horrible evil life, as long as you feel bad about it.QuoteYou die, than what?The world continues on without you. We're just big bags of atoms bumping around. What could possibly happen. You're brain shuts off, and you're dead. Our thoughts and our subconscious end when our cells die. Simple as that. You're just gone. It's hard to fathom, but it's simply true. When a plant dies, does it go to plant heaven? No. It's the whole idea that humans are special. We can't just die.. no no, but everything else around us can.
but there is a creator. life and universe was created just like everything in this world was created, like the planet was created.i dont remember seeing the bible that the eart was 3000 years old.http://www.eternal-productions.org/101science.html
well somebody made us, u guys didnt hear about the microorganism that has a built in motor inside it? it wasnt man made and it couldnt of been made by nature.
Quote from: LooN3y on June 13, 2008, 05:19:11 PMwell somebody made us, u guys didnt hear about the microorganism that has a built in motor inside it? it wasnt man made and it couldnt of been made by nature.what about that ^, if not god thatn that must prove existence of aliens.
Quote from: LooN3y on June 14, 2008, 07:37:53 PMQuote from: LooN3y on June 13, 2008, 05:19:11 PMwell somebody made us, u guys didnt hear about the microorganism that has a built in motor inside it? it wasnt man made and it couldnt of been made by nature.what about that ^, if not god thatn that must prove existence of aliens.A built in motor? Like an electric motor inside of a cell made of metallic elements? Do you have a scientific reference for it? Like a Journal article or even a news source? I think you need to be a little more critical of things you read on the internet. I guess religious people have a track record for lack of skepticism. Post a source, because I would love to read this.
The bacterial flagellum is driven by a rotary engine made up of protein (Mot complex), located at the flagellum's anchor point on the inner cell membrane. The engine is powered by proton motive force, i.e., by the flow of protons (hydrogen ions) across the bacterial cell membrane due to a concentration gradient set up by the cell's metabolism (in Vibrio species there are two kinds of flagella, lateral and polar, and some are driven by a sodium ion pump rather than a proton pump[15]).