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Quote from: Turf Hitta on June 24, 2008, 02:14:05 AMQuote from: The King of Mitt Romney's Fan Club on June 16, 2008, 08:46:32 PMThe lack of monogamy in our society shows the true weakness and lack of morals in our culture. People who can't stay faithful are just people who have a lack of self control. The way our culture has progressed in the last few decades really shows how weak we are. Go into any highschool, and look at the lack of directions and maturity. The fact that procreation is now so separate from sex, shows the weak mind, and lack of self control of most people in this thing we call a civilized society. No one needs sex, you just think you do. Try to hold in your desires, it'll make you a stronger person. People can get whatever they want, when they want, and leads to a poorer quality of human being. No one has to earn or try anymore. They can just go to a bar, buy a whore a drink, and sleep with her. What kind of morality is that?Monogamy will make you a happier person in the long run. Meeting the right person, a person you love, independent of sex, and spending you're lives together, that's happiness. Something most people won't accomplish, and why most people aren't happy in their lives. Most people would rather just sleep around, living selfish, shallow, self deprecating lives. Short term satisfaction over longterm happiness. That's what our society is today.Eh...Just because a person doesn't share your same morals and values that does not make them immoral, weak or lazy. Monogamy might work for some but not for others. Its not right not make sweeping generalizations like this. I'm sure many people would be much happier by being sexually promiscuous. And do you have data to back your theory that most people aren't happy AND that their unhappiness is directly linked to their not being monogamous or are you just blowing shit out of your mouth? It seems like you're just making vast sweeping judgments and assumptions based on the culture that you have been indoctrinated into accepting. Maybe I'm wrong, but thats the impression I get.So you don't think going to bars for the simple purpose of sleeping with women, and then to never talk to them again, is immoral? Our society is in the shit were in because of lack of morals. Look how 12 year old girls dress these days. It's a signal of a declining morality. People don't need sex, it's that simple. They only think they need it, and people who can't keep a monogamous relationship are weak minded. They need that short term statisfcation for something they don't even need to survive or be happy. It's an immature, adolesent life style. How many people do you know who are truely happy. I've never met one. And most people I know aren't married.
Quote from: The King of Mitt Romney's Fan Club on June 16, 2008, 08:46:32 PMThe lack of monogamy in our society shows the true weakness and lack of morals in our culture. People who can't stay faithful are just people who have a lack of self control. The way our culture has progressed in the last few decades really shows how weak we are. Go into any highschool, and look at the lack of directions and maturity. The fact that procreation is now so separate from sex, shows the weak mind, and lack of self control of most people in this thing we call a civilized society. No one needs sex, you just think you do. Try to hold in your desires, it'll make you a stronger person. People can get whatever they want, when they want, and leads to a poorer quality of human being. No one has to earn or try anymore. They can just go to a bar, buy a whore a drink, and sleep with her. What kind of morality is that?Monogamy will make you a happier person in the long run. Meeting the right person, a person you love, independent of sex, and spending you're lives together, that's happiness. Something most people won't accomplish, and why most people aren't happy in their lives. Most people would rather just sleep around, living selfish, shallow, self deprecating lives. Short term satisfaction over longterm happiness. That's what our society is today.Eh...Just because a person doesn't share your same morals and values that does not make them immoral, weak or lazy. Monogamy might work for some but not for others. Its not right not make sweeping generalizations like this. I'm sure many people would be much happier by being sexually promiscuous. And do you have data to back your theory that most people aren't happy AND that their unhappiness is directly linked to their not being monogamous or are you just blowing shit out of your mouth? It seems like you're just making vast sweeping judgments and assumptions based on the culture that you have been indoctrinated into accepting. Maybe I'm wrong, but thats the impression I get.
The lack of monogamy in our society shows the true weakness and lack of morals in our culture. People who can't stay faithful are just people who have a lack of self control. The way our culture has progressed in the last few decades really shows how weak we are. Go into any highschool, and look at the lack of directions and maturity. The fact that procreation is now so separate from sex, shows the weak mind, and lack of self control of most people in this thing we call a civilized society. No one needs sex, you just think you do. Try to hold in your desires, it'll make you a stronger person. People can get whatever they want, when they want, and leads to a poorer quality of human being. No one has to earn or try anymore. They can just go to a bar, buy a whore a drink, and sleep with her. What kind of morality is that?Monogamy will make you a happier person in the long run. Meeting the right person, a person you love, independent of sex, and spending you're lives together, that's happiness. Something most people won't accomplish, and why most people aren't happy in their lives. Most people would rather just sleep around, living selfish, shallow, self deprecating lives. Short term satisfaction over longterm happiness. That's what our society is today.
^^^^^^ Like I said, wanting to stay single only because you want to sleep around is quite shallow and immature, not to mention dangerous (STDs). And frankly, I don't think there are many people who are naturally inclined to be promiscuous; it's more about showing off and impressing other guys (and in the case of women, it's sometimes a sign of sexual abuse as a child). I know people who are like that, too, and they aren't any happier than the married people I know.I do think that when people are not being satisfied by their spouse sexually or emotionally, it's not that unusual for them to desire someone else. Because human beings do have psychological needs, and sometimes, married people stop fulfilling those needs for each other. It is not a sign of being "weak minded" to realize one day, "Damn, my wife is fucking ugly now, we have no chemistry as spouses, and I just can't get hard for her anymore".
Anybody telling anyone else they SHOULD or SHOULDN'T be monogamous needs to get over themselves. It works for some people, it doesn't work for others. Quit being judgmental fucks.
Most players are only players cause they got playedAnd have not let go of that shit since seventh gradeYou got your heart broke; life sucks, doesn't itBut you shouldn't fuck up someone else's life because of itSomeone did your mother like that, that's why you're fatherlessBefore jail or racist cops, that's what the problem is
I wouldn't tell nobody he or she should be monogamous, just don't sleep around when you have a girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband. I really don't accept that kind of shiet.
I wouldn't tell nobody he or she should be monogamous, just don't sleep around when you have a girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband. I really don't accept that kind of shiet. QuoteMost players are only players cause they got playedAnd have not let go of that shit since seventh gradeYou got your heart broke; life sucks, doesn't itBut you shouldn't fuck up someone else's life because of itSomeone did your mother like that, that's why you're fatherlessBefore jail or racist cops, that's what the problem is
I wouldn't call my partner a girlfriend in a free relationship. It would just be the person I fuck most or something. "Main bitch". Not girlfriend, let alone wife. And no, to the other part of your statement. But you can have your own opinion.
Quote from: 7even on June 26, 2008, 03:10:35 PMI wouldn't call my partner a girlfriend in a free relationship. It would just be the person I fuck most or something. "Main bitch". Not girlfriend, let alone wife. And no, to the other part of your statement. But you can have your own opinion.Well, there's people who (say they) really love each other and who are really into each other, but they don't attach so much value to monogamy - they don't mind their partner getting some joy with someone else. What do you think all those clubs for couples are for? They can be happily married, yet getting their fuck on like they're from fraternities and sororities.I don't mind people doing whatever they think is right. That doesn't mean that I approve of any promiscuosity - not at all. People are free to fuck around, if that's what they think is right, but that doesn't mean I won't despise them for behaving in a way of which I strongly disapprove. Whatever flows your boat though...
Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on June 26, 2008, 03:24:19 PMQuote from: 7even on June 26, 2008, 03:10:35 PMI wouldn't call my partner a girlfriend in a free relationship. It would just be the person I fuck most or something. "Main bitch". Not girlfriend, let alone wife. And no, to the other part of your statement. But you can have your own opinion.Well, there's people who (say they) really love each other and who are really into each other, but they don't attach so much value to monogamy - they don't mind their partner getting some joy with someone else. What do you think all those clubs for couples are for? They can be happily married, yet getting their fuck on like they're from fraternities and sororities.I don't mind people doing whatever they think is right. That doesn't mean that I approve of any promiscuosity - not at all. People are free to fuck around, if that's what they think is right, but that doesn't mean I won't despise them for behaving in a way of which I strongly disapprove. Whatever flows your boat though...1. This is something I can't quite relate to, cause I'm not like that at all, but if it's not cheating and shit, and really as chilled out and mutual as you describe it there, then I don't have a problem with it. Maybe I should have been more explicit in my initial statement. 2. This is something we can never agree on, because I'm not down with that anarchist type of mentality at all. Do I mind people doing whatever the fuck they want? If it's something fucked up, you can bet your ass I do.