It's May 14, 2024, 06:49:57 PM
I'd have to agree with you about the sex and materialism without the fun. Music, or at least the mainstream American music scene (Billboard Top 100) is generally made up of shallow, pretentious acts that have to rely on image more so than actual talent.Let's run down the line of music genres:Hip Hop - Easily the least fulfilling, negative, idiotic, repetitive shit you can find. "Artists" who wish to make it big must rely on reoccuring themes of sex, material wealth, and the proverbial race to the bottom that was/is their rocky past, usually consisting of selling drugs and other scumbag shit. Living in New York you can see examples every day of stupid youth imitating stupid musicians reflecting their own ignorant upbringing. It's really a mind fuck. Pop - Pop music used to be fun in the 70's and 80's, and often featured well written lyrics and creative instrumentation culminating in a great record that I am not ashamed to say I like. As hip hop and in the late 80's-90's electronic music pervaded what was known as the pop scene, pop music started to be more about catchy hooks and driving beats, much like the other up and coming genres. Once industry people fully tapped into the marketing possibilities of this new pop music, they stopped taking chances with acts, and settled for familiar routines that would be sure to earn them lots. Hence, most of the 90's-now pop music is interchangable.R&B - Holy God, this genre has suffered so much in the last twenty years. R&B as it was once known, is a thing of the past, and hip hop has encroached into this once soulful, beautiful art form and is now a safe haven for more crack dealers and sex rhymes. I am most upset about the decline of R&B more so than other genres.Rock - Androgony is at an all time high, and what was once tough bad ass music is now a bunch of self absorbed ignorant losers whining and screaming into the mic like girls. Whats worse is that since girls make so much of the consumer market, the same dickheads who raped the pop genre are now doing the same thing with rock and making it all a predictable fashion scene to be idolized by it's key demographic, along with other generally young, insecure suburbanites. Rock/emo/scene/hardcore is laughable. I seriously laugh when I see one of their videos on tv.Country - You know what, I'm not a country fan by any means, but I'll give most music a couple minutes if I'm flipping through stations, and these guys generally have the most sincere, descriptive lyrics about issues that don't fit into the familiar themes of mainstream music. I don't know enough to say whether it's changed a lot in the last few decades, other than I'm willing to bet that in the 90's and before, artists weren't runnign around with a big fat cosrvative stick up their ass trying to call out to their hilbilly bretheren to join the military, or pray for the troops or whatever the fuck some these clowns are trying to feed us. Overall, in my opinion, mainstream music has just lost it's balls because with waning record sales, execs are less likely to take chances on original, different sounds that may or may not necessarilly make them millions.To me, todays music reflects the greed of our time. Stale, ignorant, and unoriginal all for the sake of cranking a few more dollars out of the same reputable cash cow.
That's kind of a paranoid, conspiracy theorist way to look at it. You're not honestly gonna tell me that all the record giants are in cahoots with the government and are using idiotic music as a ploy to blind us are you? And that they then in turn tell the artists to make music a certain way..
^I don't think its mostly a deliberate conspiracy to dumb us down (although it seems more like a combination) , I think humanbeings just naturally gravitates towards that and it cycles between ignorance and enlightenment; in past centuries the masses were told what to think and it was the responsibility of leadership to shepherd the people and enlighten the masses. Nowadays, as liberalism has emerged the dominant world doctrine, salvation and enlightenment is more than ever an individual undertaking, however there is a catch: ignorance and stupidity is the default option. These last couple of years this new millenium, I got more faith in hip-hop than ever, regardless of record sales and money, I think hip-hop is the strongest its been in a long while because underground artists haven't ever stopped doin their thing, they keep bangin out good music! Hip-hop has just gone back underground: secret society steeeeez and thats the way I likes it.'Pharoah headress, on my bedrest,commercial rap singing hooks, I couldn't care less'-Killah Priest, 'All Hail', Beautiful Minds. 2008.
Quote from: Rugged Monk on September 28, 2008, 04:51:39 AM^I don't think its mostly a deliberate conspiracy to dumb us down (although it seems more like a combination) , I think humanbeings just naturally gravitates towards that and it cycles between ignorance and enlightenment; in past centuries the masses were told what to think and it was the responsibility of leadership to shepherd the people and enlighten the masses. Nowadays, as liberalism has emerged the dominant world doctrine, salvation and enlightenment is more than ever an individual undertaking, however there is a catch: ignorance and stupidity is the default option. These last couple of years this new millenium, I got more faith in hip-hop than ever, regardless of record sales and money, I think hip-hop is the strongest its been in a long while because underground artists haven't ever stopped doin their thing, they keep bangin out good music! Hip-hop has just gone back underground: secret society steeeeez and thats the way I likes it.'Pharoah headress, on my bedrest,commercial rap singing hooks, I couldn't care less'-Killah Priest, 'All Hail', Beautiful Minds. 2008.suggest me a couple dope underground tracks I can check out on youtube or upload something
the only thing I see in 00's is death of music or birth of some sort of devil music...
Quote from: Infinite 5'9" on September 28, 2008, 07:17:39 AMQuote from: Rugged Monk on September 28, 2008, 04:51:39 AM^I don't think its mostly a deliberate conspiracy to dumb us down (although it seems more like a combination) , I think humanbeings just naturally gravitates towards that and it cycles between ignorance and enlightenment; in past centuries the masses were told what to think and it was the responsibility of leadership to shepherd the people and enlighten the masses. Nowadays, as liberalism has emerged the dominant world doctrine, salvation and enlightenment is more than ever an individual undertaking, however there is a catch: ignorance and stupidity is the default option. These last couple of years this new millenium, I got more faith in hip-hop than ever, regardless of record sales and money, I think hip-hop is the strongest its been in a long while because underground artists haven't ever stopped doin their thing, they keep bangin out good music! Hip-hop has just gone back underground: secret society steeeeez and thats the way I likes it.'Pharoah headress, on my bedrest,commercial rap singing hooks, I couldn't care less'-Killah Priest, 'All Hail', Beautiful Minds. 2008.suggest me a couple dope underground tracks I can check out on youtube or upload somethingright now i enjoys that new Killah Priest and Chief Kamachi, Beautiful Minds also the new DJ Muggs and Planet Asia album Pain Language:http://rapidshare.com/files/146739674/Killah_Priest_And_Chief_Kamachi-Beautiful_Minds-2008-C4.rarhttp://www.sendspace.com/file/i2iy64Last year Priest had The Offering and Muggs had Legend of the Mask and Assassin....(if you aint peeped those then run out and cop). I love the fact that I live in Australia and we are not over-saturated with gangbanger and wigger culture (you can be a wigger too if you black), dumb fucks hanging out 24/7 infront of 7/11s with ridiculously oversized FUBU shits and shirts like curtains.... I can only imagine... I cringe at alot of the bullshit that comes out of the US...Instead we just pluck the jewels from the dirt, filter the real from the fake and say 'thank-you, you can keep all the rest of that'. All the dope artists working together more and more, thats what im loving, you seeing Ill Bill with Immortal Tech, tech with Killah Priest, Priest with Muggs, Muggs with GZA, Muggs with Bill...and so on and so on so much goodness i cant word it all. The y2ks is being the ILLLEST era in hip-hop, fools are just ASLEEEP! And THAT is very representative of our times: the great unwashed goyamic masses remain ignorant and blinded from the lies and illusions spewed forth by the dancing whores of Babylon while those beneath the surface remain very much awake with eyes like a young Ezekiel.... Hip-hop is alive as ever, its just esoteric, in every sense of the word. Theres so much dope hip-hop you just gotta search for it yourself or else you will never get it like a freemasonry initiation. My older brothers were into hip-hop in the late 80s and 90s and we always argue -they keep saying 'hip-hop is dead' and 'kids these days don't have no movements anymore', 'Pac and Big was when it was the real era', 'blah, blah blah'. Man...people only say that because they are not up on that real hip-hop and have lost sight and fallen behind ('to be Hip is to be update and relevant' -KRS-One) These days hip-hop is way more sure of itself and refined in terms of what it stands for, back then I don't think hip-hop had that, its was thug shit above anything else, political and nourishing only secondly. Nowadays, I think the balance is more healthy, but it flucuates like a person's happiness, hip-hop is living like Islam or Christianity is said to be a living religion. Of course im disregarding the mainstream industry, but hip-hop has never cared or been defined by what the mainstream industry does so why would we be doing that now? oh yeah right now im also loving and listening to some tracks off J Live's Then What Happened Album and Erykah Badu's new 4th world war album, im getsssss off over that spiritual hip-hop.Peace ps your pm dosnt work i suspects a zionist-murdoch-HAARP conspiracy...