Who do you think in all honesty can be a leader for the west coast

[D-Nice]

Ice Cube

do you really think so?

Yeah, he has been doing it for years. Snoop even said it at the height of his career. Cube & WSC had the WORLD throwing up the W, Snoop has been more the King for a while, but man Cube made you want to be from the west, have pride in the west. He does not speak out as much as he used to, but him and Pac were like the aggresive voice of the coast. Shame that Pac thought Cube was riding on his coattails back then because they both were on the same page.

but we're talking about the present and the future right?
sure Cube has his independent label, but he's only focusing on a few artists, he's not planning to build some sort of powerhouse 

off course some one can be looked at as a leader, from so many different angles.


by the way, i'm getting tired of the perception that the 'west coast' is a team that competes against other regions/states whatever ( as a response to the first post and to similar posts/comments)

Oh no doubt, times have changed. But I still think Cube has the opportunity to be a leader because really since Pac only a few have stepped up and taken that title. Really outside of the work Snoop did with Doggystyle there has not been a label to really step forward and showcase talent. I don't know what Cube has up his sleeves but WC albums I am sure will not be the only thing coming from him. And if that WSC album ever comes out soon, he has got to be in the running for it.

[h2k4]

Nobody really.  Game is a major face of the Westcoast though.  In all honesty, we don't need a "leader".  We just need people to drop quality music and not beef amongst eachother for no good reason.

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

I mean I agree wit this somewhat
shit jus drop the damn album and that be good enuff
I mean if we had
crooked
ras kass
planet asia
bishop
G malone

and others droppin albums, not mixtapes, albums, a real fuckin album then the west will rise.
of course not overnight, its gon take months, even years
but whos better then them?

bein lyrical is important and is a factor in the rise of a coast IMO

Nobody really.  Game is a major face of the Westcoast though.  In all honesty, we don't need a "leader".  We just need people to drop quality music and not beef amongst eachother for no good reason.

[Allpaul]

My vote is for Lil' Yogi too!

[BigO]

nobody, every artist is gonna have to do their own thing because Tupac didn't really rep the West Coast, he was really a guy from the East coast he had flow and stood out on the West Coast, he made some cool west coast songs though in homeage to his new home, but he wasn't really a west coaster, there wasn't even west coast artist in his group Outlaws they were all from his hometown (the east coast), and Tupac always, i repeat always wore his timberland boots, but as far as real west coast people
i would say Snoop Dog led the coast.

but every artist got to do they own thing, and not be followers, or you just gonna have a bunch of follower artist.  Everybody just got to bring their own interpretation of hip hop to the table.

[h2k4]

I mean I agree wit this somewhat
shit jus drop the damn album and that be good enuff
I mean if we had
crooked
ras kass
planet asia
bishop
G malone

and others droppin albums, not mixtapes, albums, a real fuckin album then the west will rise.
of course not overnight, its gon take months, even years
but whos better then them?

bein lyrical is important and is a factor in the rise of a coast IMO

Being lyrical is important but you also have to have flow.  And I agree, albums (not mixtapes) need to start dropping for others to take us seriously again.  It's cool to drop mixtapes but release them with a purpose.  Solidify your album release date and then drop the mixtapes leading up to that.

[D-Nice]

nobody, every artist is gonna have to do their own thing because Tupac didn't really rep the West Coast, he was really a guy from the East coast he had flow and stood out on the West Coast, he made some cool west coast songs though in homeage to his new home, but he wasn't really a west coaster, there wasn't even west coast artist in his group Outlaws they were all from his hometown (the east coast), and Tupac always, i repeat always wore his timberland boots, but as far as real west coast people
i would say Snoop Dog led the coast.

but every artist got to do they own thing, and not be followers, or you just gonna have a bunch of follower artist.  Everybody just got to bring their own interpretation of hip hop to the table.

Yeah but it was not like Pac just moved to the west a couple of weeks before dropping music. He lived in Marin City/Oakland for a while. 17 or 18 he has when he moved there. Pac repped the west as much if not more then Snoop or Cube or anyone else out here that was repping it hard.

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

nah I agree I mean cats on here and elsewhere say well shit you blind or deaf?
you aint heard of
211,
big wy,
sly boogy,
tha realest
yukmouth
el prez
roccett
young joker
bishop lamont
ras kass
crooked
G malone
bloc boyz


and the list can go on right?

but in all honesty and reality who are heavy hitters?
who can spit and has a flow like you said?
who has mass appeal?

not all them rappers, that dont mean they dont have fans and wont sell records!

that jus means we have better rappers that out there but arent gettin heard, but any given reasons. fuck tha industry yeah, but you gotta put in work and release the damn album!
a fuckin mixtape is free these days, whos chargin for them? ya boy, he wont gain as many fans as he would by givin it out for free?

1.produce heat
2.have a flow
3.mass appeal
4.be unlike no other

who fit in that category

1.crooked I
2.ras kass
3.G Malone (IMO he doesnt bring heat all the time, and I think its cuz of his beat selection, but hes dope none-the-less)
4.planet asia
5.shit Ice Cube still got what it takes
6.and dub-c
7.xzibit
8.kam


thats jus a few

but when do we hear from them?

aite cube dropped a album! dope album!
dub dropped a album, dope album!!

but thats it.  we need more albums on the regular! and again a mixtape aint gon cut it!

I mean I agree wit this somewhat
shit jus drop the damn album and that be good enuff
I mean if we had
crooked
ras kass
planet asia
bishop
G malone

and others droppin albums, not mixtapes, albums, a real fuckin album then the west will rise.
of course not overnight, its gon take months, even years
but whos better then them?

bein lyrical is important and is a factor in the rise of a coast IMO

Being lyrical is important but you also have to have flow.  And I agree, albums (not mixtapes) need to start dropping for others to take us seriously again.  It's cool to drop mixtapes but release them with a purpose.  Solidify your album release date and then drop the mixtapes leading up to that.

[BigO]

nobody, every artist is gonna have to do their own thing because Tupac didn't really rep the West Coast, he was really a guy from the East coast he had flow and stood out on the West Coast, he made some cool west coast songs though in homeage to his new home, but he wasn't really a west coaster, there wasn't even west coast artist in his group Outlaws they were all from his hometown (the east coast), and Tupac always, i repeat always wore his timberland boots, but as far as real west coast people
i would say Snoop Dog led the coast.

but every artist got to do they own thing, and not be followers, or you just gonna have a bunch of follower artist.  Everybody just got to bring their own interpretation of hip hop to the table.

Yeah but it was not like Pac just moved to the west a couple of weeks before dropping music. He lived in Marin City/Oakland for a while. 17 or 18 he has when he moved there. Pac repped the west as much if not more then Snoop or Cube or anyone else out here that was repping it hard.

when he was 18 bout to turn 19, and that means he was completely raised in New york and baltimore, hence his rap style...no??? lol
you are a man at 18, im not hating, i love east coast rap, but im just saying this is the reason he stood out and "lead" west coast rap, because he was from were rap is from, he was a straight professional in hip hop, when the west coast was still warming up to it, you know what im saying

plus he was living in New York, the whole time he was in cali he frequently went back for 2 - 3 months at a time, of course death row wouldn't tell you that, but were you think he met outlaws, just randomly, these were his real friends, and him and biggie were homies! Biggie used to sleep at Tupacs NYC house

thats why he was so disappointed that he got shot on the East Coast, he felt betrayed, because he was getting so much love in his second home, and when he went back to his real home he was sabatage, but the truth of the matter is, NY dudes do that to they own everyday, nothing had changed, u know

peace

[BigO]

p.s. for the west to make a strong comeback you need more than a leader, you need a MOVEMENT

you need a bunch of individual leaders, doing different things, and then they will all be noticed and it will be a movement!!!

we just had The Game, that was just one person, you feel me, it needs to be at least 5 mcs or more with strong music, AND THEY CAN'T BE MOVING ALL IN THE SAME DIRECTION, NEED DIVERSITY, AND THEN THEY WILL SAY, THE WEST COAST IS A FORCE, BECAUSE WE'LL COVER EVERY AREA.

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

but the whole 2pac (rip) thing I mean the reason he was the face of this coast is cuz he was always in the camera, jail, doin songs, drama, wit suge and much more

now it doesnt look like were gon have someone on the level as pac
altho dre is monumental and prolly has more power IMO
but that dont mean Kam, crooked I, ras kass, need to quit rap especially when they some of the dopest rappers live!

and thats what they make it seem like.!!its like they tryin to hard, beyond that to be great!
do you, release the damn album!

[penenstamp]

Bert and Ernie should be the new leaders!

[D-Nice]

nobody, every artist is gonna have to do their own thing because Tupac didn't really rep the West Coast, he was really a guy from the East coast he had flow and stood out on the West Coast, he made some cool west coast songs though in homeage to his new home, but he wasn't really a west coaster, there wasn't even west coast artist in his group Outlaws they were all from his hometown (the east coast), and Tupac always, i repeat always wore his timberland boots, but as far as real west coast people
i would say Snoop Dog led the coast.

but every artist got to do they own thing, and not be followers, or you just gonna have a bunch of follower artist.  Everybody just got to bring their own interpretation of hip hop to the table.

Yeah but it was not like Pac just moved to the west a couple of weeks before dropping music. He lived in Marin City/Oakland for a while. 17 or 18 he has when he moved there. Pac repped the west as much if not more then Snoop or Cube or anyone else out here that was repping it hard.

when he was 18 bout to turn 19, and that means he was completely raised in New york and baltimore, hence his rap style...no??? lol
you are a man at 18, im not hating, i love east coast rap, but im just saying this is the reason he stood out and "lead" west coast rap, because he was from were rap is from, he was a straight professional in hip hop, when the west coast was still warming up to it, you know what im saying

plus he was living in New York, the whole time he was in cali he frequently went back for 2 - 3 months at a time, of course death row wouldn't tell you that, but were you think he met outlaws, just randomly, these were his real friends, and him and biggie were homies! Biggie used to sleep at Tupacs NYC house

thats why he was so disappointed that he got shot on the East Coast, he felt betrayed, because he was getting so much love in his second home, and when he went back to his real home he was sabatage, but the truth of the matter is, NY dudes do that to they own everyday, nothing had changed, u know

peace

Good point

[Black Excellence]

Dr. Dre can always bring it back.

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

yeah not in a heartbat but he can!

wit his supreme team and master art craft, its a done deal!

(and im not talkin about 50 or em either)

Dr. Dre can always bring it back.