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~Dead Poets Clique..~
infinite59:
Tight shit homies..... Props to Blade.
Tanjential:
you're saying all rappers are poets? LOL
Project pat: i'ma ask fo yo name cuz you've been blessed fo sho
you smellin better than a tight rolled optimal
i'ma haveta know how you're garden grow
if you want you can holla back afta the show!
THAT is not poetry
but then i'll hear a verse from Inspectah deck on c.r.e.a.m. from 36 chambers..THAT is poetry
rap can be poetry like nas and old wu tang and shit like that but rapper does not equal poet
i'm not putting down rap,i;m putting down rappers....remember that post where i said rap has so much potential but only a little bit is used? same thing
yes poetry is what you feel,but is it really conveying emotion or a message when you say :like weed this mic, i pass it"
you tell me tere's no rules but then you make your own rules,you make your "poetic"
stuff have less profane when poetry can be as profane as you like as long as there's a purpose check Allen Ginsberg's Howl
or Jim Morrison's "curses,invocations" (yes these are in mp3 format withe the poets reading them out loud you illiterate mofoz)
it's just because it seems like you guys are just like rapping trying to convince everyone else you're deep....you're just bragging about how poetic you are no doing poetry....i'm not saying you can't because you guys are dope rhymers but you're too egoistic with the rhymes,if you were more introspective or emotionally evocative/confessional or "gasp!" humble! than i can take you seriously until you do that you just look like gufted but mislead rappers.....you can say alot of this to me but i'm not trying to be anything i'm not and i'm not bringing hip hops ignorances into my writing and im secure enough to call myself a poet
okay i take back the extremity of the above statements,becausei was reading through what you were doing and much of it is poetry....and you guys are like as close as Nas/Eminem ae to becoming poets...i'm not putting your talent down....i don't think i'm more talented than you or vice verse...i can do somethings lyrically that you can;t...you can delve into things that i can't
....like i use very abtract intangibles to paint my poems but you can use real down to earth imagery that i can't grasp but i'm just saying it's too hip hoppish in ways to be poetry purely/.....like the shout outs and the mic references and the pointless bragging/crew repping....i mean will you see that in a book of poetry? they'll be like "who the fuck is hatesrats? what mic?"
pretty much you need to solate the work you do that can stand by itslef as a work of writing...and if you take the middle sections of most of what you wrote than you'll have poems so i put you down too much earlier it's just some odds and ends you need for poetry...i hope you get my meaning....infinite drop somethin man! peace-Tanjint
ZILLA THA GOODFELLA:
^^^LOL......Wateva dude......U seem like u some Square in some college teachin fools about Poetry......
And we can't get deep? aiight man, post a thread against me and we'll see who can get tha deepest......
SKiLLaZTiC:
Agreein wit tha 7th and Tone who tha fuck r u 2 say anything bout how they write there poetry. Poetry comes in any form u want to use it juzt cuz they aint spitten tha way u feel it must b don't mean they have to change tha way they choose to express it. And in ur eyes wuz Pac a Poet? or did he have a stereo typed view of poets. Becuz thatz tha same way he spit hiz poetry or did he spit it different. Bottom line u aint tha creator of poetry dawg u didn't make tha rules so know ur place and don't hate on ma DPC niggaz. FUCKIN SWEET BOOTY ASS NIGGA!!!!
peace-Skillz
CSN!!!
Holla
Tanjential:
'FUCKIN SWEET BOOTY ASS NIGGA"-skillaztic
you should be a fucking slave,you revel in being ignorant,YOU are why the ghetto is held down,YOU are why there is racism,you are why the world is fucked up,fuck you right in the ear
IF you take back what you said i'll do likewise,i don't like beef but i don't like getting dissed either
also....Tha7th i didn't say you couldn't get deep,i actually said you could and you did but i said alot of other things...i'm guessing neither of you even read the whole post and assumed i called you shallow which i didn't......i'm not saying you can't write whatever you want,because you can but you can't write whatever you want and call it poetry.....would you take ludacris's "southern hospitality" and call it poetry? No,that doesn't mean he can't do that song....you can write whatever you want but not everything one writes is poetry....when we do battle rap that is not poetry....mine or yours battle raps aren't poetry unless you make it very general like the one Infinite dropped in the csn/outlawz battle that is a poem.
it just seems there's something aesthetic you don't get about poetry...like it seems these poems you guys have written are poetry until you can't think of something expressive or profound fo a line and you just turn it into a bragging rap...it's like Pac's life goes on....that was poetry until he was like "and tell the hoes i used to know lick me from my head to my toes..." you dig??? Yes Pac was a poet but not eveything he did was a poem....Changes was a poem...i wonder if heaven got ghetto was a poem...trapped was a narrative poem....how long will they mourn me was poetic but not quite a poem,i ain't mad atcha was poetic but not a poem....2 of amerikaz most wanted wasn't even poetic neither was cali love but they're still dope shit,you get it?
damnit i wasn't trying to be an ass but i just didn't like poetry being mislabeled and i didn't say t had to be structured but the aesthetics should be understood it's not just "i wanna be deep so i'm gonna rhyme about 'life'" you have to mean it,it had to really come from you not be forced that's why i don't call shit you do for school poems unless you wanted to write it....
and i'll post some stuff of mine anyway even though the DPC homies will just "ryde on my sweet booty ass niggah!"
Cheetah(because he was there the whole time)
I had just been mentally born,i lie awake on the bed...physically tired only....
I dreaded the milky coming of the day and realized it all goes back to
milestones of epiphany,trauma,and irony
around this time, i felt a bell rang
and a thousand entities roared past me,....i don't know why
A Hymn For The High-The death of intangibles is worshippped among the clouded dandelions
science is defiant to the mythological resources
we've proven to be forces
fast as a demon
retreating
seeping
into skin eliminating God's purposes
for his services
why can't you do what you're supposed to do?
why are you yourself wholly around those who are close to you?
strangers all never see you again yet you mask yourself in public
the ground in which i've runned it,took the gasoline and left the tub lit
i've made my own liquid flame abyss
dismissed
everything for a escape temporary
must go up and trip by any means neccesary
Time-unrequited,undecided:despised traits
we drive by them much in lifes high ways
i've reluctantly faced it
that most emotional efforts are wasted
mutual affection is so amazing and rare
how often does the one at which you stare also care?
onward we trudge,i now avoid holding a grudge
we throw so much time away in spiritual waste baskets
from the time we're born till the time we face caskets
lasted long every misery has,good times quickly pass
what is time?like most things simply a product of perception
like most things somewhat more understood by reflection
do we miss people or just the things they bring?
do we like singers or just the songs they sing?
i know nothing,i'm just rambling uncertain
opinions on all of this change from person to person
"trading your hours for a handful of dimes
going to make it in our primes,yeah
get together one more time"
what is freedom? freedom
is when you see the people around you most and realize you don't need them
mental liberty,no obligations to chivalry
cut ties,but lies,haunt us,daunt us from our desired goals
painfully obvious like fired coals
the ends been near,pull back the armies,shut off the alarms,comfort the people
silence the trumpets,concentrate time on dampening idiocies and ignorances
abundance,i thought about time and freedom today but as with all of us loves
emotions remain triumphant
compete if you will Tha7th but to me, a poet,it's about art and expression not who's 'DOPER" or "badder"....if you want me to say you have a bigger dick than me fine but don't call youself a poet if that's how it is,dig "mah DPC homie dogg gangsta ass poetix niggah"?
i'll take anything offensive back if you do the same i repeat
peace-Tanjint
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