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I think if the poll was done in '03 I'd agree with it. After Encore, Em shouldn't be considered best anything. But let me clarify when I say that in '03 Eminem was the best rapper alive. That does not mean that career vs career, or all time. It means in the moment. Shaq is the greatest centre of the last ten years but by no means is he the best centre right now, so if someone asks who is the greatest centre alive that to me means that who right now is the best at that position. It's not Shaq right now even though he's still alive and still playing.Eminem in '03 was better than anyone who was rapping at that time. Was he better than Illmatic Nas or Amerikkka's Cube? Who cares if he was or wasn't. The issue is whether he was better than '03 Nas and '03 Cube.I won't speak for '08 anyone because I really don't listen anymore.
Quote from: Shallow on October 09, 2008, 09:16:39 PMI think if the poll was done in '03 I'd agree with it. After Encore, Em shouldn't be considered best anything. But let me clarify when I say that in '03 Eminem was the best rapper alive. That does not mean that career vs career, or all time. It means in the moment. Shaq is the greatest centre of the last ten years but by no means is he the best centre right now, so if someone asks who is the greatest centre alive that to me means that who right now is the best at that position. It's not Shaq right now even though he's still alive and still playing.Eminem in '03 was better than anyone who was rapping at that time. Was he better than Illmatic Nas or Amerikkka's Cube? Who cares if he was or wasn't. The issue is whether he was better than '03 Nas and '03 Cube.I won't speak for '08 anyone because I really don't listen anymore.how can you take away because of one album. look at this fuckers shit!Infinite - some feel this is his best and a classic.SSLP - almost everyone agrees this is a classic album.MMLP - see SSLPThe Eminem Show - mixed reviews, from decent, to great, to classic.Encore - piece of shit.so four potential classics, two for sure. not many have that to there rap name. so one wack album is going to take away for everything hes accomplished?
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on October 10, 2008, 08:18:55 PMQuote from: Shallow on October 09, 2008, 09:16:39 PMI think if the poll was done in '03 I'd agree with it. After Encore, Em shouldn't be considered best anything. But let me clarify when I say that in '03 Eminem was the best rapper alive. That does not mean that career vs career, or all time. It means in the moment. Shaq is the greatest centre of the last ten years but by no means is he the best centre right now, so if someone asks who is the greatest centre alive that to me means that who right now is the best at that position. It's not Shaq right now even though he's still alive and still playing.Eminem in '03 was better than anyone who was rapping at that time. Was he better than Illmatic Nas or Amerikkka's Cube? Who cares if he was or wasn't. The issue is whether he was better than '03 Nas and '03 Cube.I won't speak for '08 anyone because I really don't listen anymore.how can you take away because of one album. look at this fuckers shit!Infinite - some feel this is his best and a classic.SSLP - almost everyone agrees this is a classic album.MMLP - see SSLPThe Eminem Show - mixed reviews, from decent, to great, to classic.Encore - piece of shit.so four potential classics, two for sure. not many have that to there rap name. so one wack album is going to take away for everything hes accomplished? inifinite isnt a classic but sslp and mmlp which is his best one is a classic
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on October 10, 2008, 08:18:55 PMQuote from: Shallow on October 09, 2008, 09:16:39 PMI think if the poll was done in '03 I'd agree with it. After Encore, Em shouldn't be considered best anything. But let me clarify when I say that in '03 Eminem was the best rapper alive. That does not mean that career vs career, or all time. It means in the moment. Shaq is the greatest centre of the last ten years but by no means is he the best centre right now, so if someone asks who is the greatest centre alive that to me means that who right now is the best at that position. It's not Shaq right now even though he's still alive and still playing.Eminem in '03 was better than anyone who was rapping at that time. Was he better than Illmatic Nas or Amerikkka's Cube? Who cares if he was or wasn't. The issue is whether he was better than '03 Nas and '03 Cube.I won't speak for '08 anyone because I really don't listen anymore.how can you take away because of one album. look at this fuckers shit!Infinite - some feel this is his best and a classic.SSLP - almost everyone agrees this is a classic album.MMLP - see SSLPThe Eminem Show - mixed reviews, from decent, to great, to classic.Encore - piece of shit.so four potential classics, two for sure. not many have that to there rap name. so one wack album is going to take away for everything hes accomplished? I never said Encore takes away his past or even makes him bad, it just doesn't make him the best anymore. Think of it as an athlete. Let's say I Kobe is the best player in the NBA right now. Now this is based on his career, but more so on his most recent season. If Kobe comes out this year and scores 8 points a game, with zero assists, and doesn't run back on D then everyone will say he is not the best alive, and they'd be right to say it. Now he could very well come back the next season and become the best again, and Eminem could very come back with a masterpiece but until he does he's not the best alive anymore.
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Anyway im kinda with shallow to a certain extent...but not 03, i think that was nas time but i cannot remember but around 2001, was probably eminem at his peak...he had a few moments after, like the source disses and 8 mile but he was well past played out by that stage.
Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on October 11, 2008, 12:26:41 PMAnyway im kinda with shallow to a certain extent...but not 03, i think that was nas time but i cannot remember but around 2001, was probably eminem at his peak...he had a few moments after, like the source disses and 8 mile but he was well past played out by that stage.i think Shallow meant that after he released The Eminem Show & 8 Mile is was clear that he was number one of the times right there. so like from SSLP to the 8 Mile soundtrack, he was at his peak & runnin the game...soon to fall off...