Greatest NFL franchise of all time (the real poll, no Eastcoast bias)

[M Dogg™]

Giants
Since 1925
7 total titles, 4 NFL titles and 3 Super Bowls, 20-23 all time in the playoffs
20 Hall of Famers
611-507-3 All Time record (.545 win percent)
Key franchise in establishing pro football is superior to college football by beating Norte Dame All Star teams in the late 20's early 30's

Bears
Since 1920 (1920-21 as the Chicago Stanleys in the APFA)
9 total titles, 8 NFL titles and 1 Super Bowls, 17-18 all time in the playoffs
26 Hall of Famers
681-494-42 All Time record (.556 win percent)
More overall wins and Hall of Famers than any other franchise
 
Cowboys
Since 1960
5 total titles, 5 Super Bowls, 32-24 all time in the playoffs
10 Hall of Famers
418-305-6 All Time record (.573 win percent)
Titled America's Team, has more Super Bowl appearances than any other NFL team, most MNF wins, and most consecutive winning seasons with 20

Raiders
Since 1960 (AFL 1960-1969)
4 total titles, 1 AFL title, 3 Super Bowls, 25-18 all time in the playoffs
13 Hall of Famers
402-317-11 All Time record (.551 win percent)
Only 6 losing seasons between 1963-2002, the only team with at least a .500 records against the other teams on this list, first Black and Hispanic head coaches

Dolphins
Since 1966 (AFL 1966-1969)
2 total titles, 2 Super Bowls, 20-19 all time in the playoffs
9 Hall of Famers
372-271-4 All Time record (.575 win percent)
Only undefeated season in the Super Bowl era, and forth in NFL history, best win percentage in the NFL

49ers
Since 1946 (AAFC 1946-1949)
5 total titles, 5 Super Bowls, 26-18 all time in the playoffs
13 Hall of Famers
490-399-15 All Time record (.542 win percent)
15 consecutive with at least 10 wins, the only team with multiple Super Bowl appearances that's undefeated,tied for most Super Bowl wins with 5

Packers
Since 1919 (Independent 1919-1920)
12 total titles, 9 NFL titles, 3 Super Bowls, 25-15 all time in the playoffs
21 Hall of Famers
641-506-36 All Time record (.526 win percent)
Last of the "Small Town" teams, most overall titles in the NFL, First Super Bowl champs, can trace their history to 1896 with Semi-Pro football

Steelers
Since 1933
5 total titles, 5 Super Bowls, 28-19 all time in the playoffs
19 Hall of Famers
513-486-20 All Time record (.503 win percent)
First NFL franchise to win 4 Super Bowls, pre-Super Bowl era was notoriously bad, the only winless season, merging with other teams, turned around in 1969

Redskins
Since 1932 (1932 as the Boston Braves, 1933-1936 as the Boston Redskins)
5 total titles, 3 NFL titles, 2 Super Bowls, 23-17 all time in the playoffs
15 Hall of Famers
535-488-27 All Time record (.510 win percent)
Played for 11 championships, had to leave Boston due to lack of support, now has broken NFL's mark for single-season attendance eight years in a row

[eS El Duque]

You know who I voted for.

[OG Hack Wilson]

east coast biaseD?  i listened green bay, chicago, dallas, San fran


half the list wasn't east coast

your just sad the Gayders didn't make the cut

[Fuck Your Existence]

who you think i voted for?

[M Dogg™]

east coast biaseD?  i listened green bay, chicago, dallas, San fran


half the list wasn't east coast

your just sad the Gayders didn't make the cut

And you mad that I justified why they should by putting their record with everyone else.

[OG Hack Wilson]

east coast biaseD?  i listened green bay, chicago, dallas, San fran


half the list wasn't east coast

your just sad the Gayders didn't make the cut

And you mad that I justified why they should by putting their record with everyone else.

cuz ts like sayng "well the Celtics, Lakers, Spurs and Hornets are great, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE JAZZ"


or "babe ruth, ted williams and hanik aaron may be great BUT WHAT ABOUT CAP ANSON?"


anyways i did fuck up wth the bears twce, so t's all good m-dogg


i voited packers, since they are historical and have 12 titles

[M Dogg™]

east coast biaseD?  i listened green bay, chicago, dallas, San fran


half the list wasn't east coast

your just sad the Gayders didn't make the cut

And you mad that I justified why they should by putting their record with everyone else.

cuz ts like sayng "well the Celtics, Lakers, Spurs and Hornets are great, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE JAZZ"


or "babe ruth, ted williams and hanik aaron may be great BUT WHAT ABOUT CAP ANSON?"


anyways i did fuck up wth the bears twce, so t's all good m-dogg


i voited packers, since they are historical and have 12 titles

LOL... well the Raiders were one of 2 AFL teams mentioned in my list... lol... You might have a point if we have to have the Dolphins. The main thing is that pre-2002 there is no argument, the Raiders were great, and for 39 years they dominated. But in the past 6 years, they've sucked. But the Steelers sucked ass, I mean they were going bankrupted and had to merge with other teams bad, the only winless season and they still are on the list, and the Giants from 1964-1978, which is 14 years, only had 2 winning season. I mean come on, New York was rooting for their AFL team more than their NFL team. So to say 6 years disqualifies the Raiders, when they were the most feared franchise in the late 60's, 70's and early 80's is quite strange. All the way up to 2002 they were competitive almost every year, though the late 80's and late 90's they did do some rebuilding, it was in no time they were in AFC championship games. And unlike the Jazz, they did win something.

Oh well, I will also say this, when I was actually getting the official numbers (I figured so we can get some stats to back up claims), I realized something, before the Super Bowl era, the Packers were just so damn good I almost switched my vote to them, but after the Super Bowl era the Cowboys have basically dominated modern football. Though the Packers being fairly good since the Super Bowl and their Farve era I think puts them as the top franchise. I still voted Cowboys because the Cowboys basically have dominated the modern game with their wins in the 70's and 90's and I found so many stats since 1969 that make them the top franchise since then.

[Don Jacob]

no matter who you throw in greenbay is that team.  then the bears. followed by the boys and giants, then the steelers, then niners then the Raiders.

[.:DaYg0sTyLz:.]

east coast biaseD?  i listened green bay, chicago, dallas, San fran


half the list wasn't east coast

your just sad the Gayders didn't make the cut

And you mad that I justified why they should by putting their record with everyone else.

cuz ts like sayng "well the Celtics, Lakers, Spurs and Hornets are great, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE JAZZ"


or "babe ruth, ted williams and hanik aaron may be great BUT WHAT ABOUT CAP ANSON?"


anyways i did fuck up wth the bears twce, so t's all good m-dogg


i voited packers, since they are historical and have 12 titles

LOL... well the Raiders were one of 2 AFL teams mentioned in my list... lol... You might have a point if we have to have the Dolphins. The main thing is that pre-2002 there is no argument, the Raiders were great, and for 39 years they dominated. But in the past 6 years, they've sucked. But the Steelers sucked ass, I mean they were going bankrupted and had to merge with other teams bad, the only winless season and they still are on the list, and the Giants from 1964-1978, which is 14 years, only had 2 winning season. I mean come on, New York was rooting for their AFL team more than their NFL team. So to say 6 years disqualifies the Raiders, when they were the most feared franchise in the late 60's, 70's and early 80's is quite strange. All the way up to 2002 they were competitive almost every year, though the late 80's and late 90's they did do some rebuilding, it was in no time they were in AFC championship games. And unlike the Jazz, they did win something.

Oh well, I will also say this, when I was actually getting the official numbers (I figured so we can get some stats to back up claims), I realized something, before the Super Bowl era, the Packers were just so damn good I almost switched my vote to them, but after the Super Bowl era the Cowboys have basically dominated modern football. Though the Packers being fairly good since the Super Bowl and their Farve era I think puts them as the top franchise. I still voted Cowboys because the Cowboys basically have dominated the modern game with their wins in the 70's and 90's and I found so many stats since 1969 that make them the top franchise since then.

I already proved him wrong on his own thread. Thats why there was no response. Pure stupidity would leave the Raiders off the list. Anyone with any historical knowledge of the NFL would include them. They might not put them at the top, but youd have to be a fuckin retard to not include them in the group.

[Fuck Your Existence]

the Raiders obviously need to be mentioned. its just a shame that oakland has been ran by the ego-maniac Al Davis. 

[.:DaYg0sTyLz:.]

the Raiders obviously need to be mentioned. its just a shame that oakland has been ran by the ego-maniac Al Davis. 

yeah it has. Lately at least. At one point no one would have felt he was the problem...but its time for him to sit back, and let his coaches coach...and his players play.

[OG Hack Wilson]

in baseball it's


yankees  (.567 winning %, 39 pennants, 26 titles)
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cardinals (.517 winning %, 21 pennants, 10 titles)
athletics (.486 winning %, 15 pannants 9 titles)
red sox (.516 winning %, 12 pennants 7 titles)
dodgers  (.524 winning%, 22 pennants, 6 titles)
giants (..538, 20 pennants, 5 titles)
reds (.507, 10 pennants, 5 titles)

[M Dogg™]

in baseball it's


yankees  (.567 winning %, 39 pennants, 26 titles)
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cardinals (.517 winning %, 21 pennants, 10 titles)
athletics (.486 winning %, 15 pannants 9 titles)
red sox (.516 winning %, 12 pennants 7 titles)
dodgers  (.524 winning%, 22 pennants, 6 titles)
giants (..538, 20 pennants, 5 titles)
reds (.507, 10 pennants, 5 titles)

This dude has more Eastcoast bias that the Source pre-2006, or ESPN.

[Kool Beenz]

Dallas

[OG Hack Wilson]

in baseball it's


yankees  (.567 winning %, 39 pennants, 26 titles)
.
.
.
.
cardinals (.517 winning %, 21 pennants, 10 titles)
athletics (.486 winning %, 15 pannants 9 titles)
red sox (.516 winning %, 12 pennants 7 titles)
dodgers  (.524 winning%, 22 pennants, 6 titles)
giants (..538, 20 pennants, 5 titles)
reds (.507, 10 pennants, 5 titles)

This dude has more Eastcoast bias that the Source pre-2006, or ESPN.

nigga i have facts