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Russia Urges US To Stop Cuba Embargo

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LONDON!!:

--- Quote from: Low Key on November 16, 2008, 06:23:36 PM ---Russia and America still don't see eye to eye. Nuking the world would be a very bad idea so both countries are more diplomatic, but don't pretend everyone gets along now.

I can still buy up to 2 boxes of Cuban cigars legally by way companies outside of the US, and now both countries trade agricultural and medical necessities on a wide scale. Cuba isn't trying to aim missles at us anymore so I don't really care what happens with the embargo, I just think Russia needs to mind their own business.

--- End quote ---

i do care about that childish and evil embargo that only effects cuban brothers and sisters trying to survive and take care of there family's on the ground, the general population, no one else, i care deeply about that, an embargo put on them just because Castro stopped a handful of foreigners to stop stealing Cuba's resources

relations wit the US and Russia were very good after they squashed there cold war beef, Russia respected and looked up to US in a certain way certain times, things all changed when Bush came to power and saw this as a weakness(in his warmongering eyes, being peaceful is a weakness, yeah right) on Russia parts and started to surround Russia wit missle plans and capture all the resources surrounding Russia in central Asia, Georgia was the last straw for Russia and they put there foot down in face of Bush's intimidation and called his bluff

hopefully Obama can calm things down now and stop another cold war because i can't see a nuclear war popin off anytime soon, i can't see that happening at all, fingers crossed

Low Key:

--- Quote from: LONDON!! on November 17, 2008, 06:39:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Low Key on November 16, 2008, 06:23:36 PM ---Russia and America still don't see eye to eye. Nuking the world would be a very bad idea so both countries are more diplomatic, but don't pretend everyone gets along now.

I can still buy up to 2 boxes of Cuban cigars legally by way companies outside of the US, and now both countries trade agricultural and medical necessities on a wide scale. Cuba isn't trying to aim missles at us anymore so I don't really care what happens with the embargo, I just think Russia needs to mind their own business.

--- End quote ---

i do care about that childish and evil embargo that only effects cuban brothers and sisters trying to survive and take care of there family's on the ground, the general population, no one else, i care deeply about that, an embargo put on them just because Castro stopped a handful of foreigners to stop stealing Cuba's resources

relations wit the US and Russia were very good after they squashed there cold war beef, Russia respected and looked up to US in a certain way certain times, things all changed when Bush came to power and saw this as a weakness(in his warmongering eyes, being peaceful is a weakness, yeah right) on Russia parts and started to surround Russia wit missle plans and capture all the resources surrounding Russia in central Asia, Georgia was the last straw for Russia and they put there foot down in face of Bush's intimidation and called his bluff

hopefully Obama can calm things down now and stop another cold war because i can't see a nuclear war popin off anytime soon, i can't see that happening at all, fingers crossed

--- End quote ---

Why are you trying to tell me about America when I live in the country and you don't?

Rugged Monk:
...because history has shown US citizens don't deserve the benefit of the doubt when it comes to unerstanding their own country within the context of the rest of the world.

Low Key:

--- Quote from: Rugged Monk: the one man renaissance. on November 17, 2008, 09:55:46 PM ---...because history has shown US citizens don't deserve the benefit of the doubt when it comes to unerstanding their own country within the context of the rest of the world.

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That's a very sweeping generalization. Just because you have only seen what the media has shown you from the outside doesn't mean we all live with our heads up our asses.

Rugged Monk:
True, true, its a politically incorrect statement.

--- Quote from: Low Key on November 17, 2008, 07:45:11 PM ---
Why are you trying to tell me about America when I live in the country and you don't?

--- End quote ---

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I just found that bizarre tho, when the terms 'USA' and 'Coca-cola' are probably the most widely recognised worldwide across all languages, when anything happens in the US (let alone what the US does outside the US) we all can't avoid hearing about it and being affected by it in some way how could people outside the country not be entitled to an opinion on the United States of America.



Whenever the USG does anything (contra-terrorist funding, destruction of democratically elected governments, supporting dictators who boil their opponents alive in vats of hot oil such as the Uzbekistan regime although an ally in the 'war on terror' so recieved $500 million in US grants in 2002) its not necessarily your fault you don't hear about it only until its totally unavoidable, its more the media's fault and the government for having a natural, understandable aversion to its own nasty shit like a hit and run driver. Theres so much the USG does and you would never know about it unless you were outside the US. I was just talking to some relatives in the Philippines who were telling me about the sites where the US used to have military bases in the 80s (huge swathes of land 100s of kilometres of ex-naval base land) where the bases used to be the land is now so toxic nothing grows and kids are born with deformities, but you will never hear these little testimonies in the local filipino media let alone the US media. So being inside the US will not provide you with the same perspective on the US as say the Uzbeki man in the boiling pot or the local filo kid living on the land that used to be US Fort Bonafacio. 

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