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Do you believe in karma?

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ωεεźγ ғ:

--- Quote from: Infinite African West Coastin on December 01, 2008, 01:37:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: ωεεźγ ғ on December 01, 2008, 01:35:21 PM ---Im a shaolin kung fu practioner so i avidly believe in karma. But my actions are not based on the end result, i do my duty and then let everything else take care of itself. Its pretty funny that those who denounce karma, selfishly state that they "self-sacrificed" thinking that it would pay-off but they ended up WORSE than before, the works of god/karma/laws of universe, work in such magical ways that you can not truly discount that doing good things for other people did not work for you becuase you had not won the lottery that upcoming week, but if someone is wishfully confessing this to me on his deathbed, that he selfsacrificed but ended up worse than before i would be more ept on listening to him because he has experienced the full length of life and karma was no good to him. But i laugh at those who are like 20 years old and think that there is no good waiting for them anymore and that all the good things they have done are gone to waste. Just like truth is the daughter of time, patience is the father of karma.

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But how do you know that you are doing "good"? 

For example, if you bring someone a gift, how do you know they will like your gift?  They may dislike your gift, and may be annoyed that now they have to fake like they like your gift, and use it in front of you, when in reality they'd rather you hadn't given them the gift at all.  So now your actually wasting their time and doing them harm.

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I am not taking anyone gifts to do good LOL. at my work i help the disabled and seniors help load heavy shit. After droping my car in the garage, i helped this blind man cross the street then i got him a taxi, turns out he was a gold medalist at the paralympics in Sydney 2000 pretty dope!

Dont get me wrong, i dont deserve a medal for doing these things, i just dont ignore em like most of the people though. And the things i stated above is what i count as doing good.

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: ωεεźγ ғ on December 01, 2008, 01:41:02 PM ---

I am not taking anyone gifts to do good LOL. at my work i help the disabled and seniors help load heavy shit, after droping my car in the garage, i helped this blind man cross the street then i got him a taxi, turns out he was a gold medalist at the paralympics in Sydney 2000 pretty dope!


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You think what you are doing is "good" and I'm not disagreeing with you.  I am only pointing out that what is good to some may be bad to others. 

Ayn Rand and her followers for example would say that you are part of a great problem plaguing this world in which we focus our help and attention on the disabled, who provide little to society, and neglect the talented ones, upon whom so many people in society depend upon. 

ωεεźγ ғ:

--- Quote from: Infinite African West Coastin on December 01, 2008, 01:45:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: ωεεźγ ғ on December 01, 2008, 01:41:02 PM ---

I am not taking anyone gifts to do good LOL. at my work i help the disabled and seniors help load heavy shit, after droping my car in the garage, i helped this blind man cross the street then i got him a taxi, turns out he was a gold medalist at the paralympics in Sydney 2000 pretty dope!


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You think what you are doing is "good" and I'm not disagreeing with you.  I am only pointing out that what is good to some may be bad to others. 

Ayn Rand and her followers for example would say that you are part of a great problem plaguing this world in which we focus our help and attention on the disabled, who provide little to society, and neglect the talented ones, upon whom so many people in society depend upon. 

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How does me helping a disabled senior citizen load like 10 bags of top soil in his car neglect someone talented?

Þŕiņçë:
This thread is slowly spiraling out of control lol. I will take some time to smoke think about this then reply again later  8)  ::)

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: ωεεźγ ғ on December 01, 2008, 01:51:29 PM ---

How does me helping a disabled senior citizen load like 10 bags of top soil in his car neglect someone talented?


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Because resources are limited.  Our time on Earth is limited.  So any time you spend with the senior citizen is time you could have spent doing something else.  So while you are with the senior citizen you are neglecting everything else.

You fall under my Angelina Jolie example.  Maybe Brad Pitt feels neglected when she is spending so much time doing charity in Africa.  I am only speaking hypothetically.  Maybe he loves her for that.  I don't know.  I'm just pointing out that while she is doing that there is other things she is neglecting.  It's not possible to do more than one thing at a time.

...by the way, I'm not trying to tell you to stop doing what your doing, or that what your doing is bad.  I think it's great what you are doing.  I am just pointing out that "good" is subjective.  So therefore, the concept of karma, that any "good" you bring to the world will come back to you is false.  Because it's impossible to bring "good" to the world.   Because what is "good" to one person may be bad to another.  Look at all these technological advances that appear "good" to the world but then you have environmentalists complaining that the technology is "destroying the Earth for the next generations."

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