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Quote from: Trav Treezy on December 20, 2008, 10:51:34 PMQuote from: Jaydc555 on December 20, 2008, 10:43:26 PMAnd I'm 24 I've listened to hip hop since I was 9.I own over 2000 albums bought in hip hop alone.I can name 100 mcs better then jay easily.who are more diverse have better lyrics and don't rely on hot beats.black thought gives more purpose in one song then jay does in his entire career.so maybe its you that needs to stop listening to beats and listen to lyrics.because if you did you'd know jay is not that great.Hahahaha wow 100 mcs better than jayz huh? With all them albums you still cant figure hip hop out. Talking to you is like talking to a horses ass it aint gonna get it. And your 24 with a hip hop collection that big i dont think youll ever understand it. You dont have to be a jayz fan to tell the real. Kind of how i say game can rap but fakeness,name dropping,and subject matter drowns his skills out. Even though i dont like him i dont front on his skills. You need to do the same brothagame is underated fam...u think he's overated cuz u might spend too much time on this board...and thats not a shot...but facts r facts...he gets no awards no accolades nothing yet he still remains as one of the best out right now...the only concert he headlines are powerhouse and its pretty obvious of y...and i think jay is one of the greatest but by u sayin game has a short subject matter...than u might as well say the same thing about jay and a bunch of other rappers...although we know that aint true i can name so many songs where jay-z subject matter varies...i can do the same 4 game...and in no way shape or form am i comparing the two... miss me wit that he fake stuff...cuz u and whoever u get ya theories on how game lived and lives his life don't and never did personally know em besides that has nothing 2 do with his skills as an mc...and game name drops aight cool...but i bet u the type that thinks artists like ludacris, royce etc are some of the best rappers out when they name drop more than game do...so r u sure your not frontin on his skills...cuz i can bet your whole opinion is contradictory...
Quote from: Jaydc555 on December 20, 2008, 10:43:26 PMAnd I'm 24 I've listened to hip hop since I was 9.I own over 2000 albums bought in hip hop alone.I can name 100 mcs better then jay easily.who are more diverse have better lyrics and don't rely on hot beats.black thought gives more purpose in one song then jay does in his entire career.so maybe its you that needs to stop listening to beats and listen to lyrics.because if you did you'd know jay is not that great.Hahahaha wow 100 mcs better than jayz huh? With all them albums you still cant figure hip hop out. Talking to you is like talking to a horses ass it aint gonna get it. And your 24 with a hip hop collection that big i dont think youll ever understand it. You dont have to be a jayz fan to tell the real. Kind of how i say game can rap but fakeness,name dropping,and subject matter drowns his skills out. Even though i dont like him i dont front on his skills. You need to do the same brotha
And I'm 24 I've listened to hip hop since I was 9.I own over 2000 albums bought in hip hop alone.I can name 100 mcs better then jay easily.who are more diverse have better lyrics and don't rely on hot beats.black thought gives more purpose in one song then jay does in his entire career.so maybe its you that needs to stop listening to beats and listen to lyrics.because if you did you'd know jay is not that great.
Quote from: Maully aka [Fitted Da Boss] on December 21, 2008, 11:42:33 AMQuote from: Trav Treezy on December 20, 2008, 10:51:34 PMQuote from: Jaydc555 on December 20, 2008, 10:43:26 PMAnd I'm 24 I've listened to hip hop since I was 9.I own over 2000 albums bought in hip hop alone.I can name 100 mcs better then jay easily.who are more diverse have better lyrics and don't rely on hot beats.black thought gives more purpose in one song then jay does in his entire career.so maybe its you that needs to stop listening to beats and listen to lyrics.because if you did you'd know jay is not that great.Hahahaha wow 100 mcs better than jayz huh? With all them albums you still cant figure hip hop out. Talking to you is like talking to a horses ass it aint gonna get it. And your 24 with a hip hop collection that big i dont think youll ever understand it. You dont have to be a jayz fan to tell the real. Kind of how i say game can rap but fakeness,name dropping,and subject matter drowns his skills out. Even though i dont like him i dont front on his skills. You need to do the same brothagame is underated fam...u think he's overated cuz u might spend too much time on this board...and thats not a shot...but facts r facts...he gets no awards no accolades nothing yet he still remains as one of the best out right now...the only concert he headlines are powerhouse and its pretty obvious of y...and i think jay is one of the greatest but by u sayin game has a short subject matter...than u might as well say the same thing about jay and a bunch of other rappers...although we know that aint true i can name so many songs where jay-z subject matter varies...i can do the same 4 game...and in no way shape or form am i comparing the two... miss me wit that he fake stuff...cuz u and whoever u get ya theories on how game lived and lives his life don't and never did personally know em besides that has nothing 2 do with his skills as an mc...and game name drops aight cool...but i bet u the type that thinks artists like ludacris, royce etc are some of the best rappers out when they name drop more than game do...so r u sure your not frontin on his skills...cuz i can bet your whole opinion is contradictory...If you were talking to me where in my post did i say game was overrated? I admitted the nigga had skills but the shit i named drowns his skills out FOR ME. Thats your opinion bout game but mines is different. It kind of sounded like you were comparing those 2 but you said you werent so ill leave it alone. I dont like royce da 5'9 so i dont think the last part is to me. And i dont got to know game to see all the funny style shit about him and the holes in his backround.
Quote from: Trav Treezy on December 21, 2008, 12:19:19 PMQuote from: Maully aka [Fitted Da Boss] on December 21, 2008, 11:42:33 AMQuote from: Trav Treezy on December 20, 2008, 10:51:34 PMQuote from: Jaydc555 on December 20, 2008, 10:43:26 PMAnd I'm 24 I've listened to hip hop since I was 9.I own over 2000 albums bought in hip hop alone.I can name 100 mcs better then jay easily.who are more diverse have better lyrics and don't rely on hot beats.black thought gives more purpose in one song then jay does in his entire career.so maybe its you that needs to stop listening to beats and listen to lyrics.because if you did you'd know jay is not that great.Hahahaha wow 100 mcs better than jayz huh? With all them albums you still cant figure hip hop out. Talking to you is like talking to a horses ass it aint gonna get it. And your 24 with a hip hop collection that big i dont think youll ever understand it. You dont have to be a jayz fan to tell the real. Kind of how i say game can rap but fakeness,name dropping,and subject matter drowns his skills out. Even though i dont like him i dont front on his skills. You need to do the same brothagame is underated fam...u think he's overated cuz u might spend too much time on this board...and thats not a shot...but facts r facts...he gets no awards no accolades nothing yet he still remains as one of the best out right now...the only concert he headlines are powerhouse and its pretty obvious of y...and i think jay is one of the greatest but by u sayin game has a short subject matter...than u might as well say the same thing about jay and a bunch of other rappers...although we know that aint true i can name so many songs where jay-z subject matter varies...i can do the same 4 game...and in no way shape or form am i comparing the two... miss me wit that he fake stuff...cuz u and whoever u get ya theories on how game lived and lives his life don't and never did personally know em besides that has nothing 2 do with his skills as an mc...and game name drops aight cool...but i bet u the type that thinks artists like ludacris, royce etc are some of the best rappers out when they name drop more than game do...so r u sure your not frontin on his skills...cuz i can bet your whole opinion is contradictory...If you were talking to me where in my post did i say game was overrated? I admitted the nigga had skills but the shit i named drowns his skills out FOR ME. Thats your opinion bout game but mines is different. It kind of sounded like you were comparing those 2 but you said you werent so ill leave it alone. I dont like royce da 5'9 so i dont think the last part is to me. And i dont got to know game to see all the funny style shit about him and the holes in his backround.ok u said that all that stuff drowns out his skills..and he has skills which one fam...? basically what im sayin...i think u...and others r jus plain biased...im not tryna say he should be ya favorite rapper or anything...but if u gonna criticize at least have a valid point...thats the only point im tryna make...i dont think theres anything wrong wit name droppn as long as its done right...game, luda and joe budden among others do it right...but dont say game name droppin drowns out his skills...that makes no sense...and i would say the same if the artist we were talkin about was either luda or budden or anyone else who does the same shit...and im sorry that i dont have 2 know em shit doesnt work cuz u dont know him or the people associated wit em...so u dont know the scenarios that go on...and to my knowledge he does no funny style shit..all he does is put people on and look out 4 his people...so what funny shit r u talkin about i cant blame u tho...all u hear are the people who have so called issues wit him...and u neva hear game address all of them cuz its all bullshit and he doesnt need 2...----------------Now playing: The Game - Runnin' (Feat. Tony Yayo)via FoxyTunes
Quote from: Maully aka [Fitted Da Boss] on December 21, 2008, 01:24:24 PMQuote from: Trav Treezy on December 21, 2008, 12:19:19 PMQuote from: Maully aka [Fitted Da Boss] on December 21, 2008, 11:42:33 AMQuote from: Trav Treezy on December 20, 2008, 10:51:34 PMQuote from: Jaydc555 on December 20, 2008, 10:43:26 PMAnd I'm 24 I've listened to hip hop since I was 9.I own over 2000 albums bought in hip hop alone.I can name 100 mcs better then jay easily.who are more diverse have better lyrics and don't rely on hot beats.black thought gives more purpose in one song then jay does in his entire career.so maybe its you that needs to stop listening to beats and listen to lyrics.because if you did you'd know jay is not that great.Hahahaha wow 100 mcs better than jayz huh? With all them albums you still cant figure hip hop out. Talking to you is like talking to a horses ass it aint gonna get it. And your 24 with a hip hop collection that big i dont think youll ever understand it. You dont have to be a jayz fan to tell the real. Kind of how i say game can rap but fakeness,name dropping,and subject matter drowns his skills out. Even though i dont like him i dont front on his skills. You need to do the same brothagame is underated fam...u think he's overated cuz u might spend too much time on this board...and thats not a shot...but facts r facts...he gets no awards no accolades nothing yet he still remains as one of the best out right now...the only concert he headlines are powerhouse and its pretty obvious of y...and i think jay is one of the greatest but by u sayin game has a short subject matter...than u might as well say the same thing about jay and a bunch of other rappers...although we know that aint true i can name so many songs where jay-z subject matter varies...i can do the same 4 game...and in no way shape or form am i comparing the two... miss me wit that he fake stuff...cuz u and whoever u get ya theories on how game lived and lives his life don't and never did personally know em besides that has nothing 2 do with his skills as an mc...and game name drops aight cool...but i bet u the type that thinks artists like ludacris, royce etc are some of the best rappers out when they name drop more than game do...so r u sure your not frontin on his skills...cuz i can bet your whole opinion is contradictory...If you were talking to me where in my post did i say game was overrated? I admitted the nigga had skills but the shit i named drowns his skills out FOR ME. Thats your opinion bout game but mines is different. It kind of sounded like you were comparing those 2 but you said you werent so ill leave it alone. I dont like royce da 5'9 so i dont think the last part is to me. And i dont got to know game to see all the funny style shit about him and the holes in his backround.ok u said that all that stuff drowns out his skills..and he has skills which one fam...? basically what im sayin...i think u...and others r jus plain biased...im not tryna say he should be ya favorite rapper or anything...but if u gonna criticize at least have a valid point...thats the only point im tryna make...i dont think theres anything wrong wit name droppn as long as its done right...game, luda and joe budden among others do it right...but dont say game name droppin drowns out his skills...that makes no sense...and i would say the same if the artist we were talkin about was either luda or budden or anyone else who does the same shit...and im sorry that i dont have 2 know em shit doesnt work cuz u dont know him or the people associated wit em...so u dont know the scenarios that go on...and to my knowledge he does no funny style shit..all he does is put people on and look out 4 his people...so what funny shit r u talkin about i cant blame u tho...all u hear are the people who have so called issues wit him...and u neva hear game address all of them cuz its all bullshit and he doesnt need 2...----------------Now playing: The Game - Runnin' (Feat. Tony Yayo)via FoxyTunesIts both like i said it drowns out his skills TO ME. Just cause he can spit i have to be a fan? Hell no. Ok ok act like you dont see him on change of heart when he was suppose to be gangbangin,act like you dont see him get extra animated with the gangsta image,act like you dont see the weird nigga breakin down basketball rims when its suppose to be beef. Act like you dont hear him talkin this og in the hood before he was 22 shit but yet when them gunit niggaz lit that blackwall up what did he do? Go to the studio and diss niggaz. And o yeah i suppose you dont remember what happened with memphis bleek in miami when bleek confronted him either. And game was asked about it on Envys show and he never denied it and his answer as to why it didnt pop off was very hoish. Game could be gay and you wouldnt give a fuck,you make dude seem like he a GOD to you or something. The hoish ways is out there for everybody to see some people choose to ignore it not me thats my choice not to ignore it and yours is to ignore it. Just continue to wash over all the bullshit he does. He can pull a gun out on a nigga at a basketball game yet he cant do it to spider loc in a piru hood. See where im getting at? He picks and chooses who he thinks he can get a name off of.
Quote from: Jaydc555 on December 20, 2008, 10:16:00 PMI'm not bitching at all lol.what some call the bigger picture I call selling out.your talking about people only listening to beats and hooks not the rhymes.without a hot beat jay is totally uninteresting.but you put someone like Royce or nas or cormega or crooked I and they will still rip their verses.jay is reliant on working with a hot producer.Not to mention the fact I've never heard anyone bite so many lyrics.he constantly uses big rhymes,he's used eminem lines hell he's even used mike shinoda from linkin parks.See personally hooks and beats are secondary to me.that's why I put people like termanology and cormega above people like jay.he's sold a lot of records sure.that's because he's a pop artist that does pop shit.you couldn't anymore mainstream then him.the only reason he's mentioned so much is because of his sales.he doesn't have the skill of nas nor does he have the passion of 2PAC or even dmx for that matter.as a hip hop fan I don't have to give credit just because someone has sold records.I mean I don't think fans of r and b give credit to boy bands that sell millions.I dont think you listened to hip hop prior to a few years ago. He gave Kanye and just blaze they first hits. I cant argue with a person who says without a hot beat hes uninteresting. You just proved my point about listening to beats instead of words. Ok he borrows lines who doesnt? He sold records cause his shit is hot and he could spit not because he did songs with jlo and mariah carey, Jayz was jayz when he hooked up with linkin park so he didnt sell out. How doesnt he have the passion cause hes not loud and outspoken like dmx? Cause he doesnt rhyme from his stomach like pac and dmx? Cmon dude. Jayz had a line for people like you and imma about to quote it.
I'm not bitching at all lol.what some call the bigger picture I call selling out.your talking about people only listening to beats and hooks not the rhymes.without a hot beat jay is totally uninteresting.but you put someone like Royce or nas or cormega or crooked I and they will still rip their verses.jay is reliant on working with a hot producer.Not to mention the fact I've never heard anyone bite so many lyrics.he constantly uses big rhymes,he's used eminem lines hell he's even used mike shinoda from linkin parks.See personally hooks and beats are secondary to me.that's why I put people like termanology and cormega above people like jay.he's sold a lot of records sure.that's because he's a pop artist that does pop shit.you couldn't anymore mainstream then him.the only reason he's mentioned so much is because of his sales.he doesn't have the skill of nas nor does he have the passion of 2PAC or even dmx for that matter.as a hip hop fan I don't have to give credit just because someone has sold records.I mean I don't think fans of r and b give credit to boy bands that sell millions.
Quote from: Trav Treezy on December 20, 2008, 10:35:52 PMQuote from: Jaydc555 on December 20, 2008, 10:16:00 PMI'm not bitching at all lol.what some call the bigger picture I call selling out.your talking about people only listening to beats and hooks not the rhymes.without a hot beat jay is totally uninteresting.but you put someone like Royce or nas or cormega or crooked I and they will still rip their verses.jay is reliant on working with a hot producer.Not to mention the fact I've never heard anyone bite so many lyrics.he constantly uses big rhymes,he's used eminem lines hell he's even used mike shinoda from linkin parks.See personally hooks and beats are secondary to me.that's why I put people like termanology and cormega above people like jay.he's sold a lot of records sure.that's because he's a pop artist that does pop shit.you couldn't anymore mainstream then him.the only reason he's mentioned so much is because of his sales.he doesn't have the skill of nas nor does he have the passion of 2PAC or even dmx for that matter.as a hip hop fan I don't have to give credit just because someone has sold records.I mean I don't think fans of r and b give credit to boy bands that sell millions.I dont think you listened to hip hop prior to a few years ago. He gave Kanye and just blaze they first hits. I cant argue with a person who says without a hot beat hes uninteresting. You just proved my point about listening to beats instead of words. Ok he borrows lines who doesnt? He sold records cause his shit is hot and he could spit not because he did songs with jlo and mariah carey, Jayz was jayz when he hooked up with linkin park so he didnt sell out. How doesnt he have the passion cause hes not loud and outspoken like dmx? Cause he doesnt rhyme from his stomach like pac and dmx? Cmon dude. Jayz had a line for people like you and imma about to quote it.HE HAD A LINE FOR PEOPLE LIKE US BECAUSE HE HEARD CRTICIZM A BILLION TIMES ALREADY! HA HA HA! HE IS OVERRATED! AND KANYE PUT HIMSELF OUT! JAY-Z DIDNT EVEN GIVE HIM THE CHANCE! KANYE IS A SELL OUT ALSO!