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For all you Obama groupies...
virtuoso:
Admittedly my friend i have not read that link as of yet but when i saw you say that there is an over estimating of their influence, i thought you were implying that financially and geo politically, that they are not one of the biggest players there is but I shall read that link you gave.
Kill:
I love the title "changefest"...and some people are just not able to handle satire. stewart's point was to show how similar presidential rhethorics are when they come from different people with approaches that are actually different. this wasn't about showing obama is similar to bush, which, frankly and no matter how much you like obama or not, is a rather dumb thing to say
virtuoso:
--- Quote from: Kill on February 04, 2009, 03:20:24 PM ---I love the title "changefest"...and some people are just not able to handle satire. stewart's point was to show how similar presidential rhethorics are when they come from different people with approaches that are actually different. this wasn't about showing obama is similar to bush, which, frankly and no matter how much you like obama or not, is a rather dumb thing to say
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How is it dumb? and again there is this refusal to see a distinction it's not about liking or disliking an individual it's about what they stand for. Me and others have pointed out hundreds of times why nothing is changing, at least not changing for the better anyway but here is a quick run down.
The military is staying put in Iraq, there are some 30 permanent bases in Iraq need I remind you
The troops are being withdrawn from Iraq but in turn are being used to bolster the troop numbers in Afghanistan
Supposing guantanamo bay is closed, Obama has just ordered the continuation of CIA extroadinary renditions aka the kidnapping of civilians who are to be placed in "secret prisons" aka other torture centres.
He has called for a internal corp just as strong just as powerful as the military
The Federal Reserve is still there and even if it loses some of it's power, it's already been discussed in Davos that a new world central bank needs to be created, further centralising power.
He has continued to pledge future tax payers money towards more bail outs.
He is fully supportive of carbon tax, which gives them the opportunity to basically tax every facet of your life, more taxes, going into a depression hmmm
He supports a flatulence tax on cattle, which maybe some people find funny, it sounds crazy doesn't it? but i wonder if the indpendent farmers will be laughing.
He supported the bank cash give aways in fact he even appeared before congress to give an impassioned speech urging the bail out bill to be passed.
He said he would not support the Fisa bill which gave the president the authority to allow for warrantless wiretapping and also retroactively safeguarded the telecoms giants and yet he turns full circle and supported it. To put this into context even the staunchest of democrats Olbermann talked about it.
10% of his staff are members of the american arm of the trilateral commission, a giant globalist body whose interests have nothing to do with wanting to help any nation. In fact his cabinet consists of a whose who scumbags lineup all criminals in their own right
Brzienski is his military advisor, read the grand chessboard.
He voted in favour of the patriot act, the act that has been decried by so many, in fact it is so draconian and so far reaching in it's definitions that thousands of non terror related cases have been tried under the patriot act.
He said he would overturn the military commissions act but since he has already re-approved the kidnapping and torture of civilians i wouldn't hold my breath in him repealing this either.
I don't even need to summarise what all this means, it's self explanatory and of course the media is playing the complaint lap dog talking about "oh he is so diferent from Bush, instead of decades in Afghanistan he is talking about several years there". Several years lol that is semantics and indeed a measured slow troop withdrawal was also promised by Bush. He is following the same agenda, the difference is that in Obama the agenda is further down the line. I guess if you put bullshit on the menu enough times people will order it.
Javier:
Bush or any Repbulican would never want a Federal program to weatherize your home. That's in the works with Obama as President, something that Bush-led Congress would never approve of. And there's plenty of little important things like that shows the difference between the two. Now this whole fantasy you guys have about eliminating the Federal Reserve, etc....it's just not going to happen anytime soon. The fact is that Obama didn't campaign on getting rid of it or anything like it.
virtuoso:
--- Quote from: Mr. Javii on February 04, 2009, 04:30:41 PM ---Bush or any Repbulican would never want a Federal program to weatherize your home. That's in the works with Obama as President, something that Bush-led Congress would never approve of. And there's plenty of little important things like that shows the difference between the two. Now this whole fantasy you guys have about eliminating the Federal Reserve, etc....it's just not going to happen anytime soon. The fact is that Obama didn't campaign on getting rid of it or anything like it.
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You mean to control the temperature in your home? and if so, you call that a good thing, a government having the power to decide your thermostat. Also the Federal Reserve was only one element, if that was all, well it could be grudgingly accepted but it sure isn't, that's only the tip of the iceberg.
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