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The new white nationalism - WHAT we stand for
Rugged Monk:
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--- Quote from: Rugged Monk-Shaolin illuminati Click on January 27, 2009, 09:34:23 PM ---If my hand had free reign and the ability to i'd impose a secular UN dictatorship upon Israel and Palestine and forcefully spoon feed their children a liberal secular enlightenment inter-religious education...I'd encourage inter-faith, bi-racial and bi-cultural relationships and families ......Plus I'd rebuild Solomon's Temple...
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Right, but here's the thing: The Israelis would go along with it, while the Palestinians wouldn't. Chances are, you'd be forced to slap the Palestinians around the same way that the Izzies have had to do.
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No, we would be forced to slap EVERYBODY around. Israel was founded on terrorism. Palestine adopted terrorism.
Jared Taylor:
--- Quote from: Rugged Monk-Shaolin illuminati Click on February 04, 2009, 07:48:04 PM ---No, we would be forced to slap EVERYBODY around. Israel was founded on terrorism. Palestine adopted terrorism.
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No, just the Palestinians. Israel was founded with a need to defend itself against illiterate Islamic savages. The Palestinians, being Muslims, would rather fight than accept a 2-state solution.
Rugged Monk:
--- Quote from: Jared Taylor on February 04, 2009, 07:54:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rugged Monk-Shaolin illuminati Click on February 04, 2009, 07:48:04 PM ---No, we would be forced to slap EVERYBODY around. Israel was founded on terrorism. Palestine adopted terrorism.
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No, just the Palestinians. Israel was founded with a need to defend itself against illiterate Islamic savages. The Palestinians, being Muslims, would rather fight than accept a 2-state solution.
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Well...regardless, for their own good my illuminated leviathan would slap them all around and forcefully relocate screaming settlers and Palestinians alike inorder to establish boarders; rather than allow the periodic culling of the Palestinian population and the cycle of violence to continue.
Zionism is good, but Shaolin Illuminati Click is for the babies.
Hey Ma:
--- Quote from: Rugged Monk-Shaolin illuminati Click on February 04, 2009, 08:18:39 PM ---Shaolin Illuminati Click is for the babies.
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It's pretty much necessary for our world to survive without ignorance being the default setting for human beings.
I TO DA GEEZY:
You see there's a difference between actual history and parallel universes. You argue they WOULD hate us "regardless of what we did or did not do". This is like saying Muslim hatred for the west is pathological and cannot be explained by real world events and interests, it's a very convenient ideological concoction.But there's a problem, if Muslim hatred for the west is independent of real world concerns(like having national resources and personal freedom stolen) then why do Muslims-some of the most religiously fanatical ones incidentally-cooperate with US strategic interests?(Like the Saudis and once even Osama, as you probably know).Remember you argue real world concerns don't enter their calculus, otherwise what I've listed(or "what WE do") would be very relevant.
Secondly,there certainly existed an amount of antagonism between religions and nations throughout history, Muslims and Arabs were no exception, but does this prove their hatred was, or is now, independent of real world interests?
As for fault. It's interesting how you measure faults. So the 1000 something Palestinians killed by my government lately, using U.S weapons, brought it on themselves?...Yeah I know my government uses arguments like this, but serious people know exactly to whom those bombs and planes belong. Normal people usually attribute fault to those who pull the trigger and kill 300 children, in what has become an Israeli controlled prison.
As for Muslim violence. If you limit history to those cases which support the thesis that Muslims are more violent then naturally you won't have a problem. Since, under these constraints, you don't need to face hundreds of years of Western violence.
And my question still remains unanswered. The fact Western countries are democracies has little to do with the argument.Also,the fact most western countries share strategic interests-and hence don't fight wars with each other-doesn't prove anything. Your argument was this: Muslims commit acts of violence, thus the Muslim religion is evil. Why don't Western acts of violence prove the evil of Western culture and the religions of which it consists?
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