Dre is really a suck producer who relies on other producers,

[NewYork Pope]

but all those producers never sound the same or produced those same kind ill beats when they go on their own.

Daz was sick on Death Row. Where's that dopeness now?
Mel MAn did all Dre beats, His beats sound nothing like those with Dre my himself, tho dope. Ain't did nothing major since 2001
_________ in the black of who Dre jack or used to rely on. You name them

It's funny how many people discredit his actual skills, non of those people sound as good as Dre on their own.

I just keep seeing threads thats always discredit him,  says how much he sucks etc..

Cool, if you think so and so is better. It's alll subjective, but the dude been consistent with his sound and dopeness for one who only relyies on others, while most not around anymore.

He relies on music just as a really produce does. Is the mentality yall would have in the genre of rock where there's a bass player, keys, drum etc... with 1 producer?
I don't get it.

[D-Nice]

No diss homie but I am having a hard time following your post. Are you saying that Dre makes these producers better or that he needs a co producer to be dope or both?

[NewYork Pope]

No diss homie but I am having a hard time following your post. Are you saying that Dre makes these producers better or that he needs a co producer to be dope or both?

Nah, stating that he accused of jacking other producers thus he's not dope because of that (as if). Granted he probably did jack some joint. Doesn't take his skills away

The other is how all these co-producer is really the better producer Dre relied on to sound dope, but they don't sound as dope on their own, apart from Dre.

I think i relayed the same thing in the og post.

[D-Nice]

No diss homie but I am having a hard time following your post. Are you saying that Dre makes these producers better or that he needs a co producer to be dope or both?

Nah, stating that he accused of jacking other producers thus he's not dope because of that (as if). Granted he probably did jack some joint. Doesn't take his skills away

The other is how all these co-producer is really the better producer Dre relied on to sound dope, but they don't sound as dope on their own, apart from Dre.

I think i relayed the same thing in the og post.

Ok I got ya. Yeah there might be some truth to that.

[brickboy]

That is some straight ignorrant Bs , do you even know why its called a producer ? Dre is not a beatmaker he is a producer , who likes to use real people instead just keyboards , your words dont make any sense , a producer make records from top 2 bottom like from the beat making to the final mix and that is what dre is so skilled at , a beat maker is just a little paart of being a producer and its obvius to me that you dont any clue of this , yeah so what if he dont play all things himself , its just a way capturing the creative energi og the great indviduals around him , your thread is like going out and hating Quincy jones for not playing all his instruments in his productions . Brickboy

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Dre fell the fuck off as a beat maker and probably did jack some beats. But even to this day he is probably the best mixer, sound engineer, and overall director of the instrumental aspect of producing. It's still lame how it takes him at least 5 years to get anything done.

[Hey Ma]

Dre fell the fuck off as a beat maker and probably did jack some beats. But even to this day he is probably the best mixer, sound engineer, and overall director of the instrumental aspect of producing. It's still lame how it takes him at least 5 years to get anything done.

Trent Reznor might have something to say about that.

[GangstaBoogy]

Thats because Dre doesn't really make beats. His co-star make them and he mixes and tweaks them. Similar to P.Diddy but without all the lame sampling.

[Dre-Day]

but all those producers never sound the same or produced those same kind ill beats when they go on their own.

Daz was sick on Death Row. Where's that dopeness now?
Mel MAn did all Dre beats, His beats sound nothing like those with Dre my himself, tho dope. Ain't did nothing major since 2001
_________ in the black of who Dre jack or used to rely on. You name them

It's funny how many people discredit his actual skills, non of those people sound as good as Dre on their own.

I just keep seeing threads thats always discredit him,  says how much he sucks etc..

Cool, if you think so and so is better. It's alll subjective, but the dude been consistent with his sound and dopeness for one who only relyies on others, while most not around anymore.

He relies on music just as a really produce does. Is the mentality yall would have in the genre of rock where there's a bass player, keys, drum etc... with 1 producer?
I don't get it.

true, props   

well you know how it goes, a lot of people speak on things they have no clue of 

[Jimmy H.]

Thats because Dre doesn't really make beats. His co-star make them and he mixes and tweaks them. Similar to P.Diddy but without all the lame sampling.

I think Diddy is more of a concept producer though. I always got the feeling he'd come up with an idea and have another producer put it together where Dre was a lot more hands-on in terms of crafting the sound.

[MediumL]

its funny how other producers use co producers but never get the hassle dre does. Nobody says anything about quik and robert bacon.

[GangstaBoogy]

its funny how other producers use co producers but never get the hassle dre does. Nobody says anything about quik and robert bacon.

When is the last time someone accused Quik of stealing their beat?

[penenstamp]

its funny how other producers use co producers but never get the hassle dre does. Nobody says anything about quik and robert bacon.

When is the last time someone accused Quik of stealing their beat?

2002

but all those producers never sound the same or produced those same kind ill beats when they go on their own.

Daz was sick on Death Row. Where's that dopeness now?
Mel MAn did all Dre beats, His beats sound nothing like those with Dre my himself, tho dope. Ain't did nothing major since 2001
_________ in the black of who Dre jack or used to rely on. You name them

It's funny how many people discredit his actual skills, non of those people sound as good as Dre on their own.

I just keep seeing threads thats always discredit him,  says how much he sucks etc..

Cool, if you think so and so is better. It's alll subjective, but the dude been consistent with his sound and dopeness for one who only relyies on others, while most not around anymore.

He relies on music just as a really produce does. Is the mentality yall would have in the genre of rock where there's a bass player, keys, drum etc... with 1 producer?
I don't get it.

You're right... but I don't think it's ever been denied that Dre is like an overseeing producer. It's what Dre does and what he's had success with. Unfortunetely he did fall.

[Mietek23]

I'll say it like this - if Dre still have Sam Sneed, J. Flexx, Daz, Soopafly, Sean Barney Thomas, Brian Big Bass Gardner, Mel-Man, Stu-B-Doo, Budda, Chris The Glove Taylor or Scott Storch, his beats would be the SHIT. But those people left - all he got now is Focus and that ain't enough..

[brickboy]

I'll say it like this - if Dre still have Sam Sneed, J. Flexx, Daz, Soopafly, Sean Barney Thomas, Brian Big Bass Gardner, Mel-Man, Stu-B-Doo, Budda, Chris The Glove Taylor or Scott Storch, his beats would be the SHIT. But those people left - all he got now is Focus and that ain't enough..

Brian big bass gardner masters music you fucking dummy , you are not and those people did not left they created a carreer b cuz of dre and all did their thing , i wanna punch your face in for your dum talking