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i posted this in the crooked i forum and this is only intended for crooked i fans on dubcnn, if you don't really care for him then its all good and maybe you can agree with me that most crooked i fans are either cheap as fuck or really don't care about having one of his cd's(hip hop weeklys are cool but come on now)......go buy that crooked i bootleg on FTP. all of you call yourselves crooked i fans and have been bitching about no cd coming out so why the fuck wouldn't you go and buy somethin when it's actually available?i know it's probably not the true tracklisting but honestly, at this point do you think there was ever a confirmed official tracklisting to any of his albums? this post will probably rub a lot of you the wrong way but the fact that there are only 10 crooked i fans that are willing to buy that cd on FTP is ridiculous to me. there might be some negativity with that site but i've purchased 3 cd's from them and it's always been delivered.i have no affiliation with FTP and honestly don't give a flyin fuck about them, just someone who wants to hear a Crooked I cd that Crook has not given us. of course i'll buy whatever album he eventually puts out and happy to give my money to support him but that's not gonna stop me from buyin Say Hi To the Bad Guytake one for the fuckin team and buy the cd so we can all finally hear this music. otherwise, keep playin the waiting game we've all been so good at for 10 years and settle for a damn Hood Stars sample on April 18th from wideawakeagain i'm just a Crooked I fan who really wants to hear this cd, that australian fag will probably group me in his conspiracy theory tho
Its really frustrating. I wish these fuckers never started this whole "we have Crooked I's cd for sale" shit in the first place. But now its on all of our minds and we still can't get it.
People have obviously been sitting on this material (plus other DR shit) for years now, and the fact all these shady pre-order releases are coming to the fore now means we'll see this stuff legitimately through wideawake.
Quote from: GangstaBoogy on March 26, 2009, 10:24:45 PMIts really frustrating. I wish these fuckers never started this whole "we have Crooked I's cd for sale" shit in the first place. But now its on all of our minds and we still can't get it.That's really the underlying problem right here. We always knew SOMEONE had this material, that's no secret, but waiving it around in the fans faces the way they all have done just sucks.
Yeah. The pre-order stuff is getting really old. People don't move money in and out of their paypal accounts for their health. And I don't know about everyone else, but when I complete my end of a business transaction, I expect the other party to be responsible enough to hold up their end. I realize that some of the people doing these pre-order projects have good intentions, but there are others like the people mentioned in this thread who are using some pretty shady business practices. As Jimmy H. said, the burden should be on them to convince the customer to buy, not the other way around. If they've only sold 10 copies, that's their fault. I'm sure they had taken more than 10 pre-orders the first time it was offered. But let's take a look at how they handled this case specifically: 1. They misled people about what tracks where in their posession. 2. After taking orders, they canceled the project without good reason. (phantom hating) 3. They put the project back up for sale and raised the price. 4. They dumped the download link option, thusly making things more inconvenient for the customer. 5. And my personal favorite: they insulted the customer when they canceled the project the first time. Anybody else remember that little extra bit of arrogance in that last message on their website "we've been sitting on these tracks for 7 years...maybe we'll just hold onto them another 7 years." (paraphrased) What kind of business acts like this? That's basically saying "yeah, we lied about not being able to put these tracks out-we could have. But now, we're not going to put them out again and it's all everyone else's fault, so we're punishing you." These people have a lot to learn about how to run a business. If you act like a total Cock-Smack, you don 't get to get a bent out of shape about not selling enough of what you're pushing.
Quote from: JohnnyL on March 27, 2009, 07:43:13 AMYeah. The pre-order stuff is getting really old. People don't move money in and out of their paypal accounts for their health. And I don't know about everyone else, but when I complete my end of a business transaction, I expect the other party to be responsible enough to hold up their end. I realize that some of the people doing these pre-order projects have good intentions, but there are others like the people mentioned in this thread who are using some pretty shady business practices. As Jimmy H. said, the burden should be on them to convince the customer to buy, not the other way around. If they've only sold 10 copies, that's their fault. I'm sure they had taken more than 10 pre-orders the first time it was offered. But let's take a look at how they handled this case specifically: 1. They misled people about what tracks where in their posession. 2. After taking orders, they canceled the project without good reason. (phantom hating) 3. They put the project back up for sale and raised the price. 4. They dumped the download link option, thusly making things more inconvenient for the customer. 5. And my personal favorite: they insulted the customer when they canceled the project the first time. Anybody else remember that little extra bit of arrogance in that last message on their website "we've been sitting on these tracks for 7 years...maybe we'll just hold onto them another 7 years." (paraphrased) What kind of business acts like this? That's basically saying "yeah, we lied about not being able to put these tracks out-we could have. But now, we're not going to put them out again and it's all everyone else's fault, so we're punishing you." These people have a lot to learn about how to run a business. If you act like a total Cock-Smack, you don 't get to get a bent out of shape about not selling enough of what you're pushing. Exactly. To my understanding, they are just selling CD-R's. I'm not sure what their asking price is on these projects but I'm gonna assume it's somewhere in the neighborhood north of $25. If I recall correctly, they were charging something like $35 for the OFTB project when that came out. That's a $30+ mark-up on what is esentially two dollars worth of labor and materials and that's probably being about a $1.50 generous. I'm not gonna bitch about bootlegging. If someone has rare music or a DVD of a movie that isn't commercially available and someone wants to buy it then it's not a huge problem with me. I've bought bootlegs before. It's when you look at the customer like a sucker that things get fucked up. $35-$50 is a price that says "There's a lot of Death Row groupies out there that will pay this." They aren't selling a rare collectible that will appreciate in value. They are selling a fucking CD-R that will pretty much be worthless if the rightful owners ever press up real ones. You're gonna pay something like four times the amonut of what an actual retail CD goes for, for a product that doesn't even look authentic. And save it with "all you people do is bitch" talk. Yes, people want rare Death Row and Crooked I projects but nobody with any sense at all should be jumping through hoops for something that they are PAYING for. Have respect for the dollar. You get business that way. If you advertise something and someone pays for it, give them what they paid for. If there's a problem with the order, fix it. It's the same shit I told Shonuff and it's the EXACT reason I'd never fuck with him (and he actually has a product I'd be interested in), the customer doesn't have to be grateful. You're not doing me a favor by selling me a CD for $12, anymore than Wal-Mart is doing me a favor by selling me a bag of Doritos for a cheaper price than the gas station down the street. I'd rather have none of these rare projects at all than have to go through a headache in trying to order them. No point in paying to be inconvienced.
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