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Alex Jones is a shill. So is David Icke.

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jeromechickenbone:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on March 31, 2009, 09:20:15 AM ---
The facts are nothing in America has changed for the better, in fact according to a speech Peter Schiff gave 2 weeks ago, you aint seen nothing yet. Again, if the presidents life is under threat, that in itself isn't a surprise but as he is pushing ahead with the vision of a global order, his words not mine, then we can only summise his reply is "yes master".

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What do you mean America hasn't changed for the better?  I think it's happening as we speak.  I disagree because more and more people are becoming enlightened everyday.

You still haven't answered my question.  Let's assume that he isn't under their control.  Do you expect him to come in, completely clean house, fire all staff and change America in a couple months?  He HAS to have certain people in place in order to have a successful campaign.  If he destroyed and rebuilt, he would have the shortest candidacy for a non-assassinated president. 

There is still a ton of fallout to be had, I completely agree. 

Alex Jones is an arm of the CIA / Illuminati.  Be very weary of what he says.

Did you watch all the vids I posted?  Or just some clips here and there?

virtuoso:

I watched it all including the angle of secularisation which again I would contend has not happened, for instance riddles in stone documents that the free masons are posing as fake christians, that is not to say that free masons consider themselves as imposters, i guess most of them have never even questioned it. Again though, such an angle is not attacking religion per sa, they are at great pains to point out how religion has been hijacked, The secularisation of society has been brought about largely by this hijacking of religion, the fake republicans who have been rebranded into religious nuts, that didn't happen organically.

You are right about more people becoming aware but going back to the 30 moves ahead mentioning, exactly, that is why the global order has been in the workings and is now so lovingly talked about.

virtuoso:
Hadn't noticed that last video you posted but now having watched it all here is my take...


Right first of all the guy in that video is clearly stoned, there is nothing cohesive in what he is saying. He vaguely makes references to Pat Buchanan friendship with Alex Jones and states that Alex Jones can not duck out of that one. Pat Buchanan may be outspoken but at the same time Pat Buchanan is a well known face who has spoken openly about NAFTA, the NAU etc. The next thing he mentions is the "heretic" or Pastor who talks about the fact that soon the U.S population will have to take up arms, well this is just opinion and is not endorsed by Alex Jones, indeed his responses have always been along the lines of "well that's the last resort and no one wants a war" but if they come to our homes to take our guns, then I will fight".

He also details the fact that Alex Jones presents the spectre that any minute now the federal government will order the states to come to your door, take your guns, take you to camps etc. Well in a way you could argue this is a good thing, it injects urgency and underlines just how serious the legislation is, on the other side of the coin, the apathetic stance of saying "well i don't care it's years off" what exactly has that achieved?. Then of course he gets into Mel Gibson and his catholic father, it's almost like he is insinuating that all catholics are bad despite his reassurance that is not what is saying.

He further underlines his dislike for the institution when he details the paedophilia which has occurred and has been covered up by the catholic church. Yet somehow tries to tie in the fact that Alex Jones called the catholic school a great institution to be defined as the catholic church is a wonderful thing. Clearly they are not the same thing, he is talking about that particular school and indeed just because corruption and complicity has occurred within the catholic church does not mean that all are involved so his praise for that school is not damning of anything.

He picks out a particularly popular guest like Ron Paul as damning to, I guess implying that Ron Paul is a shill because he denies publicly that 9/11 is an inside job but of course he is going to do that. If he did anything to the contrary the mainstream media would rip him apart and thus apathetic individuals who had no real affinity towards politics but who were applauding of his conservative message would soon be made to feel disgusted and embarrassed that they ever showed any direct or indirect response to him.

He follows this up by "exposing the agenda" by picking out the fact that journalists like Greg Szymanzki do not see any air time on his show but yet everyone who has read articles written by this guy will understand his agenda. His glare is solely aimed at the catholic church, seemingly all power begins and ends there according to him and therefore this guy is either not applying critical thought to this and is so consumed by the jesuit angle that he can't understand that particular brier patch or he is being deliberately misleading.

The next point interlinks to the comments from the Pastor, the point being that the mark of the beast looms large and that this may well come in the form of the verichip. However he states a lot of people won't take it and would presumably physically arrest it, well if the system has been designed so you can't buy or sell, then people will resort to guns, so the idea of using guns isn't something he disapproves of after all.

He then goes for the old ad hominem attack of calling Alex Jones an actor without any proof beyond citing the incident in which he was publicly arrested for a question he posed to George Bush. By the same token this can just as easily be interpreted as a question which when asked would lead to that knee jerk reaction and thus get him arrested publicly, nothing like the public glare to really bring home a point.

Finally he points out "that the real communists will blame everyone else for being communists" which is exactly what he is doing by focusing on a particular individual but the irony of what he has said seems to escape him completely.

Like I said man, this is a distraction

Peace

jeromechickenbone:
^^^So do you or do you not think Alex Jones is an arm of the of the powers that be?  Why does he ignore the threats that Obama has gotten from the powers that be?  Do you honestly think Fox News would have him on their show, give him more exposure if he wasn't on their team?  No way in hell, if he was who he says he is Fox News even acknowledging he exists.  Not happening.

He is their plug into the alternative media.  He's a fearmonger and a liar.  Like I said, he gives a lot of truth to mix in to further confuse you. 

virtuoso:


Honestly, I am a neutral on the matter, those points made by that individual were very weak though and maybe as a result of being a weed head I am not sure lol. You could always argue that Alex Jones is shown on a network like Fox News because his approach, his demeanor, his general outlook will make the couch potato heads cling tighter to their warm cuddly "patriot" presenters. There are various ways of looking at something and this is one such occasion. I don't think the plane which crashed carries any kind of "expose" though, there is nothing particularly suspicious about which has been brought to light it just seems like an unfortunate incident. You might feel suspicious about it but there is nothing more to it than that I don't think. The two people you mentioned who were killed, one was pushing for an investigation, along with tens of thousands of other people and the other concerned events which had taken place in Africa.

Plus going back to the chess moves comment, supposing that cartoon was deliberately created to create the response among the disillusioned that "Obama is on our side". You said it yourself if he does do something too drastic, he will be stopped and he can't play the slow moving chess game "the grand chessboard" is the reply to that one. So whichever way you break it down because his hands are tied, the agenda will move forwards. I think you should remember what was mentioned at the end of that first video, words to the effect of no one is going to save you, you are the only one that can act. 

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