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I don't think that there is free will....

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Eleven2Three:
Please, do stop mixing things up.
No one questioned whether humans are have a thinking faculty. No one questioned whether we have a will.

The question is about the boundaries of the freedom of the will.

No matter which way you look at this classic debate, you should not ignore the physical make up of this world.
Your will is subject to that as well.
If everything is material, that means there can be no such thing as a free will, considering issues of causality.

P.S.: "2 parts hydrogen, 1 part oxygen; your going to get water every time." This is false, although (pure) water always does consist of two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen. The particles don't order themselves, just like piling up an entire tree's saw-dust will not compose a tree.

Þŕiņçë:

--- Quote from: rhodamagnetics on April 05, 2009, 11:39:24 AM ---Please, do stop mixing things up.
No one questioned whether humans are have a thinking faculty. No one questioned whether we have a will.


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Please, do stop mixing things up.

RETURN OF THE OVERFIEND!:

--- Quote from: rhodamagnetics on April 05, 2009, 11:39:24 AM ---Please, do stop mixing things up.
No one questioned whether humans are have a thinking faculty. No one questioned whether we have a will.



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I thought the thread title was 'I don't think that there is free will...I really don't'.

Kool Beenz:
stupidest post youve ever made homie

RETURN OF THE OVERFIEND!:

--- Quote from: Infinite African AND American West Coastin on April 04, 2009, 12:54:22 PM ---

Another way to look at it is this.  If you were going to build a house, you would have to have knowledge of what to build before you build it, and of what the end result would look like.  You can't make a toilet, unless you first know what a toilet is.  So therefore, for this world to be created, the Creator had to have knowledge beforehand of all things.

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The ancient Greeks believed that karma, or as they thought of it The Three Furies aka The Fates, aka the Moirai  (those three women gathered around a spinning wheel) were the oldest force in existence and were the progeny of the Abyss, the great void of nothingness whom the Greeks called Mother Night, even the Zeus stood in awe of them and was subject to their inescapable power.

Likewise Buddhists and Hindus believe karma operates independent of any divine being or intervention.


IMO, we have choices, those choices impact the world around us and effect the karmic chaos/order.

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