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and many believe that the two are the same and thats OK because maybe they are

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virtuoso:
William Bill Cooper in that audio excerpt taken from his show, says the UFO angle is bs, now either we are hearing different things or you have been messing with angel dust lol.

RETURN OF THE OVERFIEND!:




Never does he say the 'UFO angle is bs'.

Never will you find Cooper saying anything like that, because he saw so much of the incredible shit throughout his career in intel and defence.


"...raising my binoculars to my eyes just in time to see a huge disk rise from
beneath the ocean, water streaming from the air around it, tumble lazily on
its axis, and disappear into the clouds. My heart beat wildly. I tried to talk
but couldn't; then I changed my mind and decided I didn't want to say
that, anyway. I had seen a flying saucer the size of an aircraft carrier come
right out of the ocean and fly into the clouds. I looked around quickly to
see if anyone else had seen it. Ensign Ball was still bending over the IMC.
He was ordering coffee."

-from Behold A Pale Horse. 



 

You got it misconstrued, there is a difference, please try and discern it:

Our perception of them as to their intent is what could be manipulated, irrespective of their existence or true nature.

jeromechickenbone:
Regarding Lucifer & Satan:

In the 1700's the Rothschild family and many others were persecuted by the Catholic church.  As the Catholic church professed that Lucifer was the fallen angel and was evil, and God and Jesus were good.  Well, the Rothschilds inherently believed that the Catholic church was evil, as they were displaced by them and saw them as the root for a lot of wrongs in the world.  Therefore, they came to the conclusion that if the Catholic church was truly evil, the God that they worship must be bad.  So they basically adopted the philosophy of doing the opposite of what the Catholic church did.  So therefore, they worshipped Lucifer, the fallen angel.  They truly believe this is the truth, and they believe that their purpose in the world is to protect us from being confused by the traditionally held concepts that Lucifer is bad and God is good.

So therefore, the Illuminati is based on a Luciferian occult.

Regarding William Cooper:

He was definitely murdered - there were numerous threats against him, they tried to jail him and tried to frame him, etc.  He survived previous hits on his life.  He even had his wife and family leave the country for extended periods of time because he was concerned for their welfare.  In the post I made where Cooper dedicated an entire week to exposing Alex Jones, lots of crazy shit happened.  During that week, his website was hacked and other little things like that.  They traced the hacks from 2 locations: 1 was from Austin Texas, which is where Jones lives and broadcasts from (and he was always bragging how he had people that can hack into anything)...and the other was traced back to a specific organization in DC (the specific one I can't recall, I'll have to check - but it was a major org.)

virtuoso:

This is the problem, when one "conspiracy" leads to accusations or indirect accusations of another "conspiracy" it becomes a cluster fuck. I don't think Alex Jones or anyone associated with him would take out anyone. If you consider Jones to be a shill, then that's a long way from being someone with that kind of "muscle". Furthermore Cooper acknowledged on the Alex Jones show in 1998 that "if i was to be murdered on his doorstep then so be it". So back during the time in which he and Alex Jones were not at loggerheads, his life was clearly threatened even then.

jeromechickenbone:
Virtuoso:

The vid that you posted is a good one.  What Cooper is saying is that for decades, there have been plans to stage that ET's are a threat to our civilization (see evil scary hollywood aliens).  The point being that if us on earth believe that we are threatened by aliens, that we will all come together for a common cause.  Then the elite can easily manifest all of this into a totalitarian one world government. 

No way is he saying ET's don't exist, he's just saying that as more and more people awake to the reality that we are def not alone, that the elite will continue to use propaganda to control us.  First their tagline is they don't exist.  2nd, their tagline is, they do exist, but they want to kill us all.  It all boils down to them not wanting to relinquish their power.

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