Author Topic: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West  (Read 1053 times)

Jimmy H.

Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2009, 12:43:57 AM »
I'm not.they worked together to create it.Just like how dre wouldn't be who he is today without eminem and eminem wouldn't be who he is today without dre.
No question. I think his chemistry with Eminem and Snoop was the most obvious because not only did he bring out the best in them but they influenced him as well. On the business end, I think if Suge and Dre had maintained a close business relationship throughout, Death Row could have some serious longevity in my opinion. 
 

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Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2009, 12:59:22 AM »
I think if Suge would have played his position and let Dre run the music side things would have been cool. I guess Suge was more convinced that being a gangster was more important then being a businessman first
 

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Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2009, 01:01:18 AM »
I'm not.they worked together to create it.Just like how dre wouldn't be who he is today without eminem and eminem wouldn't be who he is today without dre.
No question. I think his chemistry with Eminem and Snoop was the most obvious because not only did he bring out the best in them but they influenced him as well. On the business end, I think if Suge and Dre had maintained a close business relationship throughout, Death Row could have some serious longevity in my opinion. 
come on now, it was only a matter of time before it died.

stealing contracts isn't a great way to start a label

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Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2009, 01:02:05 AM »
Its true the gangsta persona is what took deathrow under but at the same time its what made them who they were and was a big reason the sales were high on the label.
 

Jimmy H.

Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2009, 01:35:50 AM »
Its true the gangsta persona is what took deathrow under but at the same time its what made them who they were and was a big reason the sales were high on the label.
I guess is was sort of a Catch-22 for Suge. The things that brought him into the game were what ended up bringing him down. I think it actually might have given a lot of others some false belief that those sort of things could work out. Quik spoke on something like this in that recent YouTube interview and a lot of made some sense.
 

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Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2009, 01:42:35 AM »
Dre isn't the business type he just makes music.He needs someone that knows what he's doing to help with the label.Aftermath is probably the most disappointing label ever made.You know its bad when most people are relieved when an artist gets dropped because now you might actually get an album.

Are you kidding?  Aftermath is probably one of the most profitable labels ever.  Eminem has sold over 75 million albums worldwide.  50 Cent has sold well, beside the first album Dre put out, I can't think of one flop released by Aftermath. 



Firm and the Aftermath compilation both went platinum, truth hurts went gold. Everything Aftermath has dropped has earned a plaque, aint nothing failed about that
 

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Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2009, 01:52:33 AM »
The fact remains that half the albums dropped on aftermath weren't very good.50s last two albums,the firm,the aftermath album and encore were all mediocre at best.They have dropped the ball on countless projects.aftermath is the most overrated label.
 

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Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2009, 05:09:36 AM »
u kidding yoself if u think dre had a hand in pacs shit.. pac didnt like that closet fag!!! hahaha

n u talkin bout dre runnin deathrow... if he cnt still release detox wat would he have released on dr??
someone would have ended up shootin him for not releasin they shit.. theres many producers who can lay a sick ass beat than dre... he spends 2 much time bendin mel-man over...

dre aint dun shit 4 the west n u shouldnt expect him 2 coz he aint reppin the west..
 

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Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2009, 07:26:24 AM »
hahaha... grow up people. it's music industry - I N D U S T R Y.
in music industry they don't give ashit about helping anybody unless they can make money on it.
When major lables artist are rapping about loyalty and all that stuff they do it becuase you want to hear that, and if you hear that you'll probably leave your money.
That's why so called west coast king Game makes records with Nas rather than wit west coast newcomers.
And in this terms saying Aftermath is a disappointmeint is just a childish nonsense. This is fucking record label, they're here to make money not to make you happy.
it's not 90 anymore. it's a different game different world. and believe me you'll never see labels like death row anymore.instead of this you'll hear more ringtone hits.
this is what capitalism have brought afterall - a total lack of quality

end of story

 

kuruptDPG

Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2009, 08:28:35 AM »
no diss, Dre wants to make money: that's always been his agenda, and i'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. West coast or not, I don't think he ever signed an artist unless he saw some serious potential profit.

agree wit that
 

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Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2009, 06:55:12 PM »
u kidding yoself if u think dre had a hand in pacs shit.. pac didnt like that closet fag!!! hahaha

n u talkin bout dre runnin deathrow... if he cnt still release detox wat would he have released on dr??
someone would have ended up shootin him for not releasin they shit.. theres many producers who can lay a sick ass beat than dre... he spends 2 much time bendin mel-man over...

dre aint dun shit 4 the west n u shouldnt expect him 2 coz he aint reppin the west..


lol...are there any smart haters?
 

thegooddoc

Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2009, 09:03:43 PM »
Dre isn't the business type he just makes music.He needs someone that knows what he's doing to help with the label.Aftermath is probably the most disappointing label ever made.You know its bad when most people are relieved when an artist gets dropped because now you might actually get an album.

Are you kidding?  Aftermath is probably one of the most profitable labels ever.  Eminem has sold over 75 million albums worldwide.  50 Cent has sold well, beside the first album Dre put out, I can't think of one flop released by Aftermath



cus he has them on the roster for ever then drops them before they can get a album out and flop lol

Still haven't addressed the fact that Aftermath has sold alot of records.  How many rap labels have sold as many as Aftermath over the last 10 years or so?  I guess it all depends on how you define success.  If you define success on how many albums a label has sold, I would say Aftermath has been successful.  If you define it by how many artists or albums a label puts out it is another story.  Bottom line is that Dre makes money.
 

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Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2009, 09:10:29 PM »
Deathrow > aftermath in sales and quality of releases.sales doesn't mean anything I mean no limit made a lot of money in sales but that doesn't mean they had quality releases.half the albums on aftermath have been mediocre at best.
 

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Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2009, 09:48:23 PM »
man, that "thy kingdom come" album of king T's was dope.
dont know why aftermath didnt release the album
 

Jimmy H.

Re: Aftermath Entertainment: Friend or Foe to the West
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2009, 10:14:38 PM »
Deathrow > aftermath in sales and quality of releases.sales doesn't mean anything I mean no limit made a lot of money in sales but that doesn't mean they had quality releases.half the albums on aftermath have been mediocre at best.
But it's all basically objective, outside of sales.  Obviously, if your preference is West Coast gangsta rap then Death Row would be the choice. But Aftermath is still standing. People may call it a joke of a label but how many other labels that have been operating for 12 years are still active, let alone have three of the most anticipated albums in the marketplace? Death Row has a little more credibility with WC fans because it was edgier and more street but that doesn't necessarily make it the better label because its followers are louder.